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  • PowerCum
    CjOverkill
    • Apr 2003
    • 1328

    #1

    What to do? Catched a sponsor shaving

    I have just catched one of my sponsors shaving.
    It is not the clasical proof like "I signed up and it was not counted" or something like. I have their affialiate program code and there are several functions that shave... and it's not mpa2 but a custom modification of another script and they use it to shave.

    Now I have a couple of options as that sponsor still owes me some money.
    1 ) As I have access to all their network I can shut them down with all their sites as a revenge for the small sum of near $300 they shaved me this month.
    2 ) I can expose them to all the people around and probably see some webmasters stop promoting them.
    3 ) Do nothing and just stop promoting that sponsor (already did that).
    4 ) Make near 50k accounts for free and post them on all the password trading boards. That will be just funny and for shure will be nice.
    5 ) Get all their databases with user data and webmaster data and sell them to the best bidder. After all they have shaved me near $300, so I do not see a reason why not to get my money in any way or another.
    6 ) Redirect all their sites to some page that says something like "This sponsor shaves" and then put some of their code and stats as proof. That would be really funny.
    7 ) Contact them and ask for some sum in order to not expose them. After all they have shaved enough money to pay me what I would be willing to ask. Ohhh... I'm a blackmailer. I'm bad. I suck... whatever you want. Think I am a blackmailer? Ok, protect the sponsor who shaves. They will be really happy

    What would you do?
    For now I will wait till I get the money they show me on their stats panel, and after that will decide for some of those corrective actions.

    Post your thoughts, screams and blames. Sponsors are also welcome to post here... but beware, if you are the shaving sponsor and you just dare to post that you don't shave then you will see yourself in some big trouble really really really fast.

    Blames, screams and questions to ICQ 171216535
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  • smack
    Push Porn Like Weight.
    • Mar 2002
    • 10652

    #2
    post proof
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #3
      Number 7 sounds ...interesting.
      You shaved me of $300, now pay me $3000 or i will expose you on the boards.

      Heh
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • shima
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 1753

        #4
        Well.. there are tons of sponsors that shave.. Just let them be, man.

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        • C_U_Next_Tuesday
          WW4L
          • Oct 2002
          • 10581

          #5
          catched=caught

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          • Helix
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 6021

            #6
            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
            Number 7 sounds ...interesting.
            You shaved me of $300, now pay me $3000 or i will expose you on the boards.

            Heh
            That might make them think twice about shaving.

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            • Aquarius
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 4754

              #7
              Originally posted by smack
              post proof

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              • Braincash Fred
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2002
                • 1589

                #8
                Be 100% sure of what you advance and post proof here

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                • Steen2
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 7662

                  #9
                  #1) Learn English.
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                  • SomeCreep
                    :glugglug
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 26118

                    #10
                    Post the name of the sponsor and any proof you have here.

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                    • xclusive
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 35218

                      #11
                      Just so you know there is very heavy fines if you are caught hacking just telling you too watch your back...

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                      • Manowar
                        jellyfish  
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 71528

                        #12
                        post proof would be the best choice

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                        • Shoehorn!
                          Die With Your Boots On
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 22872

                          #13
                          I'd say proof, although #7 is quite tempting.

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                          • brand0n
                            been very busy
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 26983

                            #14
                            um
                            change sponsors and move on with your life.
                            want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                            • stocktrader23
                              Let's do some business.
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 18781

                              #15
                              If you are outside of the U.S. I'd say go with all of the above.


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                              • Shoplifter
                                Richest man in Babylon
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 5849

                                #16
                                Number 7. No one is playing by the rules anyways.
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                                • Basic_man
                                  Programming King Pin
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 27360

                                  #17
                                  We need fuckin' proof !
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                                  • andrej_NDC
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 7760

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Steen2
                                    #1) Learn English.
                                    Learn some other language than English.

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                                    • mailman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 6311

                                      #19
                                      threads like this suck unless you have proof

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                                      • Bigjohn
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 1118

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                        Number 7. No one is playing by the rules anyways.
                                        Ummmm.... Great advice..... They call number 7 extortion, but I suppose if he's in jail he won't have to worry about getting shaved... at least not by sponsors

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                                        • Spunky
                                          I need a beer
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 133986

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by smack
                                          post proof
                                          Agreed..lets see

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                                          • p1mpdogg
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 16714

                                            #22
                                            we already paid him off

                                            problem solved.
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                                            • yuvalus
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                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 1906

                                              #23
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                                              • Napolean
                                                Old school
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 4327

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Bigjohn
                                                Ummmm.... Great advice..... They call number 7 extortion, but I suppose if he's in jail he won't have to worry about getting shaved... at least not by sponsors
                                                yeah, but isnt shaving a form of embezzlement? in some way
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                                                • LadyMischief
                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 18135

                                                  #25
                                                  CAUGHT... catched isn't a word... And pretty much all sponsors (with maybe 2 exceptions) that have PPS are going to shave to some extent.. It's not a big deal, it only makes sense with the business model they have to work in.. if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability. When it's excessive is when things get dumb...

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                                                  • Grammar Police
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 727

                                                    #26
                                                    This is the little faggot that ripped off TTT from Choker and called it his own. Don't believe anything he says. Someone needs to shoot this little European bitch.

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                                                    • doornx
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 2531

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Steen2
                                                      #1) Learn English.
                                                      In some countries the native language isn't english...i wonder how well your spanish, dutch, german, polish is ??

                                                      Try to work it out with them first... if they decline or deny any facts fuck m over
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                                                      • Raf1
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 12117

                                                        #28
                                                        I would be more surprised if you gave showed us proof of a sponsor not shaving
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                                                        • QuaWee
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 5791

                                                          #29
                                                          post fuckin proof, lol, plz
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                                                          • Napolean
                                                            Old school
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 4327

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Grammar Police
                                                            This is the little faggot that ripped off TTT from Choker and called it his own. Don't believe anything he says. Someone needs to shoot this little European bitch.
                                                            holy shit.. i was always wondering about that

                                                            saw thumbnailseries.com using cjOverKill... big site, decided to check it out. knew it was just another version of TTT, but wasnt completely sure.

                                                            thats been bothering me, thanks for clearing it up
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                                                            • Makingcoin
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 8919

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                              CAUGHT... catched isn't a word... And pretty much all sponsors (with maybe 2 exceptions) that have PPS are going to shave to some extent.. It's not a big deal, it only makes sense with the business model they have to work in.. if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability. When it's excessive is when things get dumb...
                                                              What is excessive?

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                                                              • doornx
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 2531

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Raf1
                                                                I would be more surprised if you gave showed us proof of a sponsor not shaving
                                                                why does everyone act if it's the most normal thing..

                                                                the only form of shaving i find accaptable is the "loss" of hits that need to be tracked...
                                                                But setting a cap on the # of months that a webmaster get's paid on recurring months etc. is unacceptable imo
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                                                                • Fabuleux
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 2543

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                  if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability.
                                                                  That's complete BULLSHIT. I've worked for a sponsor that absolutely didn't shave and was very profitable. There is something seriously wrong with your business if you have to. When you don't shave, ratio's increase and webmasters probably send you more traffic which results in more profits.

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                                                                  • xlogger
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 9507

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I like option 2. You should tell us who the sponsors is.

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                                                                    • MetaMan
                                                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 28682

                                                                      #35
                                                                      blackmale them to send u extra money, it will work believe me, one person with actual proof of shaving will send shocks through the adult world and ultimatley ruin them, may as well cash in while u can.

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                                                                      • Theo
                                                                        HAL 9000
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 34515

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MetaMan
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                                                                        them to send u extra money, it will work believe me, one person with actual proof of shaving will send shocks through the adult world and ultimatley ruin them, may as well cash in while u can.

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                                                                        • Napolean
                                                                          Old school
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 4327

                                                                          #37
                                                                          this guys credibility is at 0 with me, i dont care what proof he shows..

                                                                          he steals scripts and sells them as his own. pretty fucking low to take something someone spent hours/days or even weeks writing.. change the name and take credit for it.. fuck him

                                                                          hes either stirring up fake drama for sig views to sell his shit or trying to scam someone with information we all probably have already.
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                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 18135

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Makingcoin
                                                                            What is excessive?
                                                                            Over say 20%

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                                                                            • LadyMischief
                                                                              Orgasms N Such!
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 18135

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Fabuleux
                                                                              That's complete BULLSHIT. I've worked for a sponsor that absolutely didn't shave and was very profitable. There is something seriously wrong with your business if you have to. When you don't shave, ratio's increase and webmasters probably send you more traffic which results in more profits.
                                                                              Only if you have sites with such incredible retention that they make you the payout back, OR if you charge enough to cover the payout. I should add with those programs that have normal payouts it's not really an issue, but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.

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                                                                              • spanky part 2
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 1981

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Contact the irs, I bet they would be interested in it.

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                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 40377

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                  but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.
                                                                                  Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.
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                                                                                  • Jace
                                                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 35562

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    somehow I think you should post proof....but if you are inside the US you can be charged with hacking

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                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 35562

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                      Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.
                                                                                      shit, hustler does those $100 pps every once and a while

                                                                                      lots of sponsors do that high, not as their common pps, but as a special

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                                                                                      • detoxed
                                                                                        vip member
                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 17798

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Getting revenge by hacking or extortion is illegal, regardless of what they did to you.

                                                                                        Posting their info and proof will fuck them over more than you could imagine.

                                                                                        People who have been shaved might also offer you a reward once they see how much has been stolen from them. Also US based affiliates could take them to court for fraud possibly even press criminal charges.

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                                                                                        • Fabuleux
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 2543

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                          but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.
                                                                                          I don't even promote that because I don't trust it, but don't tell me the big boys hanging around here on GFY with normal payouts HAVE to shave to be profitable.

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                                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 18135

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                            Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.
                                                                                            There have been lots.

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                                                                                            • kmanrox
                                                                                              aka K-Man
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 29295

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              show me a sponsor who doesnt shave and i'll call you a liar.
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                                                                                              • detoxed
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                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                • 17798

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Fabuleux
                                                                                                I don't even promote that because I don't trust it, but don't tell me the big boys hanging around here on GFY with normal payouts HAVE to shave to be profitable.
                                                                                                I agree, I think a lot do because they are just greedy bastards, but I could open a program today paying $35 a sale and not shave anything and be making tons of cash.

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                                                                                                • fris
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 55700

                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Napolean
                                                                                                    Old school
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                    • 4327

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                    Getting revenge by hacking or extortion is illegal, regardless of what they did to you.

                                                                                                    Posting their info and proof will fuck them over more than you could imagine.

                                                                                                    People who have been shaved might also offer you a reward once they see how much has been stolen from them. Also US based affiliates could take them to court for fraud possibly even press criminal charges.
                                                                                                    i once had some mortgage lead sponsor contact me asking my price to hack into another mortgage lead company that he claims to had stolen their leads.

                                                                                                    he wanted me to crack my way into their database to prove all the leads matched his... tried tried and tried to explain to him that even if i managed to get in, he wouldnt be able to use that evidence in court.

                                                                                                    he never understood... whats so hard to understand about why cracking is illegal?
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