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Old 08-02-2004, 02:19 PM   #1
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Cost of War in Iraq (MUST SEE)

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Old 08-02-2004, 02:22 PM   #2
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Funny how governments bitch about how they don't have enough cash to pay for shit thats needed, then when a war comes along, they pump out hundreds of billions out of their ass.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:24 PM   #3
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:26 PM   #4
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:26 PM   #5
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Ha and it keeps on going, it's all good only 125 billion that's pocket change
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That is some crazy shit, that is all i have to say.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:31 PM   #7
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If that amount was spent for AIDS Epedemic program, we could have fully funded world-wide AIDS programs for 12 years.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:34 PM   #8
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:39 PM   #11
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It costed me less when I lived in montana.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:40 PM   #12
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the right wants my money for war and defense
the left wants my money to pass out to everyone else
either way MY money is gone
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:41 PM   #13
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:41 PM   #14
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Instead, we could have fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 5 years.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:43 PM   #15
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Well, if someone put that up on the web then it MUST be true!
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:48 PM   #16
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Well, if someone put that up on the web then it MUST be true!
How we got the numbers
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Currently, the Cost of War calculator is set to reach $135 billion on September 30, 2004. This is the lowest estimate of what Congress has appropriated for the war in Iraq in two supplemental appropriations. The first, Public Law 108-11, signed on April 16, 2003, appropriated $79 billion, and the second, Public Law 108-106, signed on November 5, 2003, appropriated $87 billion. (The texts of the bills can be found through the Library of Congress? legislative database.)

The $166 billion appropriated in the two bills include Iraqi war costs, military and reconstruction costs for Afghanistan, and other miscellaneous items. A study in January by Steven M. Kosiak of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments identifies $128 billion from these two supplemental appropriations that are directly related to the invasion and occupation of Iraq. To this figure we have added approximately $7 billion (included in the first supplemental) which was given as additional foreign aid to support neighboring countries, including Israel, Egypt, and Jordan.

There are others who believe that the monies in the two bills that will be spent by that date on Iraq are closer to $149 billion, but we have chosen to calculate for now based on the lower figure.

Another more wide-ranging analysis of war costs can the found at the Friends National Committee on Legislation?s website, authored by Col. Dan Smith (ret.).
Earlier Calculations

We had originally set the Cost of War calculator to actual military expenditures as announced by the Defense Department, plus what US officials have, in the summer of 2003, as the monthly cost of the occupation, $3.9 billion a month. We intended to adjust these numbers when the Defense Department released more recent figures on actual costs, but the Defense Department has frustrated the efforts of Congress and the American people (who are, after all, the ones paying for the war) by not providing information on what has been spent. As a result, we have been forced to rely on what the Administration has asked for and what Congress has allocated for military operations in Iraq.
Interest Costs

In our original calculations, we included interest costs, since the government is running a deficit and we consider these war costs unnecessary. They are not included in the current Cost of War calculations, however. For those interested in figuring the cost of the war in Iraq, including interest, they can take the current cost as displayed on our calculator and add 40% (so that if the Cost of War calculator lists the cost as $100 billion, the true cost, after 10 years of repaying the debt, would be about $140 billion).

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Old 08-02-2004, 02:50 PM   #17
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the left wants my money to pass out to everyone else
either way MY money is gone
If you used the money to educate the poor so they can get good jobs and have extra $$ to buy porn; I think this is better then funding more missiles to bomb potential future customers.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:55 PM   #18
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If you used the money to educate the poor so they can get good jobs and have extra $$ to buy porn; I think this is better then funding more missiles to bomb potential future customers.
The poor is poor cuz they're lazy. They'll never get anywhere if they're given handouts.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:57 PM   #19
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the more we realize the truth this war has cost not only the US people, but Iraq as well, this could be a turning point in the coming US election.

how pity, every second cost more than $1K
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:59 PM   #20
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yah but they're lazy cause they weren't educated or thier parents weren't educated and continued the uneducated-lazy cycle
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Ironic....

There is an 8 year old girl within 2 hours flying distance of the US who is turning in her bed tonight cos she can't sleep for stomach pains due to a lack of food today.

That ain't some "heart wrencher" - it's a fact - a real person - I met her. Kinda sorts out priorities in my mind.

Now... about "our values".....
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:50 PM   #25
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That is always what bothered me about the Iraq war, all our money should be spent on us, and not on some Iraqi's.

Why are we funding schools there, but not here, etc.
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:58 PM   #26
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It costed me less when I lived in montana.
Crazy, that's where I am!!! What part of Montana?

What a shame. Almost $200 million from a state with not even 1 million people. All those teachers, scholarships, etc. squandered for oil.
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:01 PM   #27
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I think the scarier thing is that they've only spent around 450 MILLION so far after our representatives signed off on so much more than that almost a year ago..
Wheres the money honey?
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OMG ... That's soo much money compared to everybody else . Imagine if they put that much money in healt and education ... now that would be a nice country
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:20 PM   #29
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Wow that really puts those 125 billion numbers in perspective.
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A small break down of the cost you can see not all that money is going to bombs and bullets.

Soldiers pay, housing, and meals are probably at the top of the "most spent on" items.

Plus a lot of that money is going to small businesses here in the US to build equipment and other "military functions".

Not that I support spending tons of money on war, but thought I would give a "fair and balanced" view.
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God . . . . .. . if only half of that amount was sent to me . . . . ..

i guess, im a pornstar now . . . . . . but i could help the kids , the victims or whoever needs my financial assistance, no worries about it . . . .. but i would still be a pornstar then , , , , ,
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God . . . . .. . if only half of that amount was sent to me . . . . ..
I bet even Bill Gates gets a boner seeing that number...
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Anyone have a stat on how much taxes are actually collected in the US per year?

Edit... here we go:


2.0 Trillion
U.S. Internal Revenue Service?s gross collections for fiscal year 2002, down from $2.1 trillion in 2001

$1 trillion
Gross federal income tax collections from individuals reported by the IRS in fiscal year 2002, down from $1.2 trillion in 2001. Other revenue came from employment taxes ($688 billion), corporate income taxes ($211 billion), estate and gift taxes ($27 billion) and excise taxes.


I've always wondered about how much the IRS pulls in.

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What's the cost of one of Saddam's nukes going off in NYC?
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Nice propoganda... How much are the survivors of 9-11 worth? And the freedom of Iraqis and the Afghans?
More that is posted here, for sure....
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FUCKING exactly....
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Ironic....

There is an 8 year old girl within 2 hours flying distance of the US who is turning in her bed tonight cos she can't sleep for stomach pains due to a lack of food today.

That ain't some "heart wrencher" - it's a fact - a real person - I met her. Kinda sorts out priorities in my mind.

Now... about "our values".....
There's nothing stopping you from cutting her a check right now.

But it's pretty fucking evil to demand that the government take MY money to pay for your pet cause.
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What's the cost of one of Saddam's nukes going off in NYC?
And what nukes are you referring to? Do you mean the ones he hypothetically speaking, "Could've created and sold to terrorists?"
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What's the cost of one of Saddam's nukes going off in NYC?
You guys still don't get it do you.

It's people like you that make Americans look like the Ass-Clowns of the world.
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You guys still don't get it do you.

It's people like you that make Americans look like the Ass-Clowns of the world.
no. it is people like you and bill clinton that look the other way, turn the other cheek, and would rather "make love then war", that are responsible for EACH and EVERY death on 09/11/2001.
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no. it is people like you and bill clinton that look the other way, turn the other cheek, and would rather "make love then war", that are responsible for EACH and EVERY death on 09/11/2001.
First of all I don't turn the other cheek (but I would rather make love than war ).

You and your hero Bush were on watch for 9/11(and gave the bin laden family free private jet flights home to Saudi) plus I could go on with the many failures of Bush to get a 6'4" arab guy in a fucking cave with a fucking dialysis machine(true incompetence).

You should have played heavy with the Saudi's (instead of Iraq)as the rest of the world can see Bush's private agenda and for some reason people like you will follow this admin, no matter how fucking wrong they are PROVEN time and time again.
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First of all I don't turn the other cheek (but I would rather make love than war ).

You and your hero Bush were on watch for 9/11(and gave the bin laden family free private jet flights home to Saudi) plus I could go on with the many failures of Bush to get a 6'4" arab guy in a fucking cave with a fucking dialysis machine(true incompetence).

You should have played heavy with the Saudi's (instead of Iraq)as the rest of the world can see Bush's private agenda and for some reason people like you will follow this admin, no matter how fucking wrong they are PROVEN time and time again.
wow, you are just full to the brim with poltical propaganda. if someone made a movie about how stupid you really are, would you believe it?
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wow, you are just full to the brim with poltical propaganda. if someone made a movie about how stupid you really are, would you believe it?
Listen Dude; if you want to make some valid points for your case then do so; otherwise I don't feel like getting into a childish insult competition tonight( maybe tommorow)
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This is misleding.

Three are nearly 200,000 troops in Iraq. They get paid no matter what country they are in.

And every time they go out on patrol it costs us gas. Yet every time they go on patrol here in the states it still costs us the same amount in gas.

Every dime spent in Iraq would have been spent if we went over there or not.
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