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p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:17 PM

they are lying scumbags or maybe they just cant count?

eroticafest was suppose to have 6 sponsors now there are 9????

i didnt get a notification or any type of refund did anyone else?

can you say g r e e d y??

pxxx · 08-02-2004, 10:18 PM

Damn, that has got to suck. Should i get out the popcorn p1mpdogg?

Oracle Porn · 08-02-2004, 10:18 PM

detoxed · 08-02-2004, 10:19 PM

Sue them, seems like the easiest thing to do

fr8 · 08-02-2004, 10:19 PM

9 at 6k. Looks like they want it to be extra big. Pretty shady that you were not notified.

PenisFace · 08-02-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Sue them, seems like the easiest thing to do

agreed

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by fr8
9 at 6k. Looks like they want it to be extra big. Pretty shady that you were not notified.

its gonna be extra shady when they realize what I am about todo to them

Spunky · 08-02-2004, 10:20 PM

Chump change..

Makingcoin · 08-02-2004, 10:21 PM

Have a written contract?

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Chump change..

fuck the money. its called principle.

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Makingcoin
Have a written contract?

fuck the contract

your word means something in this business. peoiple that rely on contracts to skate by untouched are no better than child molesters.

sextoyking · 08-02-2004, 10:22 PM

Trey.

why don't you talk with helmy and get it worked out?

SureFire · 08-02-2004, 10:23 PM

Topic: xbiz scammed me out of $6k

I thought 6k is like six dollars to you.

Cash · 08-02-2004, 10:23 PM

how could that happen to you?

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Trey.

why don't you talk with helmy and get it worked out?

why didnt helmy fucking notify all 6 other sponsors before pulling this bull shit???

Is it my job? fuck no. a deal is a deal. and if they want to say it wasnt in the contract great. If thats how they do business, then great.

like i said, if they said there were only going to be 6 and turns out there are 9???

we will see who is fucking who in the end

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash

how could that happen to you?

spam all your refer codes here. thats all you are good for.

Pipecrew · 08-02-2004, 10:25 PM

They have been bullshitting from the start trying to say they are throwing this whole party for next to nothing, when Mansion (the club in miami, alone is atleast 20k for the night, then drinks)

Makingcoin · 08-02-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
fuck the contract

your word means something in this business. peoiple that rely on contracts to skate by untouched are no better than child molesters.

I will take that as a no.

DatingGold · 08-02-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Makingcoin
Have a written contract?

It's not in the contract but it's in my ICQ :-)

Makingcoin · 08-02-2004, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
It's not in the contract but it's in my ICQ :-)

Cash · 08-02-2004, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
spam all your refer codes here. thats all you are good for.

And you're good just for spamming your program

You have no idea how many good rankings I have

sextoyking · 08-02-2004, 10:30 PM

Trey,

If you got screwed around, then you know you gotta do what you gotta do.

Personally, I would email - call Helmy first and see if he will take care of you.

He's been around the net almost as long as I have and am sure he wouldn't want to screw anyone over? who knows...

peace

Todd

Bugbee · 08-02-2004, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
they are lying scumbags or maybe they just cant count?

eroticafest was suppose to have 6 sponsors now there are 9????

i didnt get a notification or any type of refund did anyone else?

can you say g r e e d y??

P1mpdog,
why don't we talk tomorrow. Have you talked to anyone at Helmy regarding this? Or is this your first time private or public bringing up the situation. Please give us a call in the AM and we can talk about this and what you are acusing Helmy of.

Best regards,

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Trey,

If you got screwed around, then you know you gotta do what you gotta do.

Personally, I would email - call Helmy first and see if he will take care of you.

He's been around the net almost as long as I have and am sure he wouldn't want to screw anyone over? who knows...

peace

Todd

wonder why he gave the 'its not in the contract' excuse to another sponsor that questioned them?

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaBugbee
P1mpdog,
why don't we talk tomorrow. Have you talked to anyone at Helmy regarding this? Or is this your first time private or public bringing up the situation. Please give us a call in the AM and we can talk about this and what you are acusing Helmy of.

Best regards,

im not doing shit.

Its my responsibility to contact you fucks?

am i the one that backed out on a deal? nope.

I kept my end of the deal.

SleazyDream · 08-02-2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
fuck the contract

your word means something in this business. peoiple that rely on contracts to skate by untouched are no better than child molesters.

you know - pimpdog has a VALID point there

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:35 PM

death to xscam err xbiz!!!

sextoyking · 08-02-2004, 10:36 PM

SD,

yeh it's a valid point. In my 10 yrs working online I have done tons of 6 and 7 fig. deals with alot of the big companies out there, never once had a contract either, never.

All I am trying to say is that it's allways better in my opinion to try and resolve this offline first, call, email, etc. then if that doesn't work out, well it's time to get pissed I suppose

SleazyDream · 08-02-2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
SD,

yeh it's a valid point. In my 10 yrs working online I have done tons of 6 and 7 fig. deals with alot of the big companies out there, never once had a contract either, never.

All I am trying to say is that it's allways better in my opinion to try and resolve this offline first, call, email, etc. then if that doesn't work out, well it's time to get pissed I suppose

i didn't know the internet existed in 1994

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
SD,

yeh it's a valid point. In my 10 yrs working online I have done tons of 6 and 7 fig. deals with alot of the big companies out there, never once had a contract either, never.

All I am trying to say is that it's allways better in my opinion to try and resolve this offline first, call, email, etc. then if that doesn't work out, well it's time to get pissed I suppose

tell me this...

is it my repsonsibility to ask about this, or is it thier responsibility to tell me what they decided todo?

why on earth should I go out of my way to question this when im the mother fucker that just got screwed by devaluing my $6k investment in a promo opportunity???

sextoyking · 08-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Yep SD,

We went from our bbs system, to selling adult cdroms online in 1994. mostly ads on usenet, etc.

We were one of the largest adult cdrom dealers / distributors in the world. We sold along with Fay (sharpie), Lee Noga, and a few others.

It was soooo easy green

SteveLightspeed · 08-02-2004, 10:41 PM

What you are experiencing is the biggest problem with large conventions. It is very expensive to have a big party, so much so that mutiple sponsors have to participate to lower their costs. But how many is too many --- would it be better to limit the number of people at the party? Wouldn't you be more upset if there was no room for all of your own guests?

Exposure is not cheap at Internext --- and come Monday morning most people don't remember which parties they went to, let alone who sponsored them.

Internext is a fun show, its great to see everyone in one place. But people need to be mindful of the sponsors and make a real effort to do some biz with them for their efforts. The sponsors of all tradeshow parties do it to support the industry and treat everyone to a good time.

Steve Lightspeed

sextoyking · 08-02-2004, 10:41 PM

Yeh I see your point Trey, I did the first time you explained it. I guess I am just different, will give most 1 chance to make up for a problem, mistake, etc before outing them..

to each his own you know..

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Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
tell me this...

is it my repsonsibility to ask about this, or is it thier responsibility to tell me what they decided todo?

why on earth should I go out of my way to question this when im the mother fucker that just got screwed by devaluing my $6k investment in a promo opportunity???

BradM · 08-02-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
i didn't know the internet existed in 1994

:|

psyko514 · 08-02-2004, 10:42 PM

oh the drama.

Bugbee · 08-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
im not doing shit.

Its my responsibility to contact you fucks?

am i the one that backed out on a deal? nope.

I kept my end of the deal.

I never even implicated you backed out on a deal that is what you are publicly accusing us of. Why dont we talk off line tomorrow regarding this?

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
What you are experiencing is the biggest problem with large conventions. It is very expensive to have a big party, so much so that mutiple sponsors have to participate to lower their costs. But how many is too many --- would it be better to limit the number of people at the party? Wouldn't you be more upset if there was no room for all of your own guests?

Exposure is not cheap at Internext --- and come Monday morning most people don't remember which parties they went to, let alone who sponsored them.

Internext is a fun show, its great to see everyone in one place. But people need to be mindful of the sponsors and make a real effort to do some biz with them for their efforts. The sponsors of all tradeshow parties do it to support the industry and treat everyone to a good time.

Steve Lightspeed

yea thats all well and good steve.. still doesnt excuse them for LYING to me saying that there will only be 6 sponsors and turns out there are now 9 sponsors. THEY should have notified the current 6 sponsors letting us know that they fucked up and dont know how to budget thier money and that they are so so so sorry and would we mind there being 3 other shitty sponsors on the ticket to cover xbiz's ass.

WiredGuy · 08-02-2004, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
What you are experiencing is the biggest problem with large conventions. It is very expensive to have a big party, so much so that mutiple sponsors have to participate to lower their costs. But how many is too many --- would it be better to limit the number of people at the party? Wouldn't you be more upset if there was no room for all of your own guests?

Exposure is not cheap at Internext --- and come Monday morning most people don't remember which parties they went to, let alone who sponsored them.

Internext is a fun show, its great to see everyone in one place. But people need to be mindful of the sponsors and make a real effort to do some biz with them for their efforts. The sponsors of all tradeshow parties do it to support the industry and treat everyone to a good time.

Steve Lightspeed

Very well said Steve. The biggest internext parties are the ones I hardly remember too. I'd much rather be at a VIP party or smaller crowd with people I know and work with.

WG

DatingGold · 08-02-2004, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaBugbee
I never even implicated you backed out on a deal that is what you are publicly accusing us of. Why dont we talk off line tomorrow regarding this?

I guess I need to make a bigger stink too. I don't want to deal with Lisa anymore.

Pipecrew · 08-02-2004, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaBugbee
I never even implicated you backed out on a deal that is what you are publicly accusing us of. Why dont we talk off line tomorrow regarding this?

You obviously dont know who you are dealing with if your company has a reputation by tommorow, i'd be impressed. Tonight on GFY should be interesting.

DatingGold · 08-02-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
What you are experiencing is the biggest problem with large conventions. It is very expensive to have a big party, so much so that mutiple sponsors have to participate to lower their costs. But how many is too many --- would it be better to limit the number of people at the party? Wouldn't you be more upset if there was no room for all of your own guests?

Exposure is not cheap at Internext --- and come Monday morning most people don't remember which parties they went to, let alone who sponsored them.

Internext is a fun show, its great to see everyone in one place. But people need to be mindful of the sponsors and make a real effort to do some biz with them for their efforts. The sponsors of all tradeshow parties do it to support the industry and treat everyone to a good time.

Steve Lightspeed

Problem is they lied to us. If they can't budget a party how can they run the businesses they do?

.:St Ides:. · 08-02-2004, 10:46 PM

This is going to get interesting to say the least

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaBugbee
I never even implicated you backed out on a deal that is what you are publicly accusing us of. Why dont we talk off line tomorrow regarding this?

I want to talk to the asswipe that decided todo this. You think this shit is a joke? far from it. I keep my word, I expect the same from everyone else with any business sense at all. I know there are 3 pissed off sponsors right now plus myself for you guys pulling this shit. I guess its pretty fucking hard to email 6 ppl explaining your stupid ass decisions.

SleazyDream · 08-02-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Very well said Steve. The biggest internext parties are the ones I hardly remember too. I'd much rather be at a VIP party or smaller crowd with people I know and work with.

WG

people have made fun of the TGP VIP since day one - lol

but i never gave a fuck what the idiots thought about what I did

SteveLightspeed · 08-02-2004, 10:48 PM

I've been to 50 conventions over the last 4 years, almost in a row. I can tell you from experience, there is no perfect event, ever. There will be lots of problems, and dealing with them together is what has brought us closer to a lot of good companies.

If there are 9 sponsors at 6k each, that ain't alot for a BIG-size crowd -- you should feel lucky to find any co-sponsorship for under $20k

You get what you pay for

Steve Lightspeed

p1mpdogg · 08-02-2004, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I've been to 50 conventions over the last 4 years, almost in a row. I can tell you from experience, there is no perfect event, ever. There will be lots of problems, and dealing with them together is what has brought us closer to a lot of good companies.

If there are 9 sponsors at 6k each, that ain't alot for a BIG-size crowd -- you should feel lucky to find any co-sponsorship for under $20

You get what you pay for

Steve Lightspeed

are you making any sense at all???

what in the fuck does this have todo with thier word and the deal we made???

nothing.

are you just backing them up or what steve?

I guess I could make a deal with you tomorrow and back out the next day and you would be just fine and dandy with it??

I will make a note to fuck you over shortly.

.:St Ides:. · 08-02-2004, 10:52 PM

That is bad biz, I remember seeing a lot of bad press about xbiz before

Bugbee · 08-02-2004, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
I guess I need to make a bigger stink too. I don't want to deal with Lisa anymore.

I will call you to discuss the erticafest event first thing in the morning.

SteveLightspeed · 08-02-2004, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
are you making any sense at all???

what in the fuck does this have todo with thier word and the deal we made???

nothing.

are you just backing them up or what steve?

I guess I could make a deal with you tomorrow and back out the next day and you would be just fine and dandy with it??

I will make a note to fuck you over shortly.

I was actually trying to give you some advice. I'm not sure why. I have experience with tradeshows and parties, I guess.

emthree · 08-02-2004, 10:56 PM

I would think they could have at least asked the 6 for the needed funds first.

Have you spoken to the other 5 about this?

Your investment will soon become golden, if you turn enough heads. The drama alone will stir some pretty interesting convo and exposure at internext.

08-02-2004, 10:17 PM	#1
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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Trey, If you got screwed around, then you know you gotta do what you gotta do. Personally, I would email - call Helmy first and see if he will take care of you. He's been around the net almost as long as I have and am sure he wouldn't want to screw anyone over? who knows... peace Todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	SD, yeh it's a valid point. In my 10 yrs working online I have done tons of 6 and 7 fig. deals with alot of the big companies out there, never once had a contract either, never. All I am trying to say is that it's allways better in my opinion to try and resolve this offline first, call, email, etc. then if that doesn't work out, well it's time to get pissed I suppose __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Yep SD, We went from our bbs system, to selling adult cdroms online in 1994. mostly ads on usenet, etc. We were one of the largest adult cdrom dealers / distributors in the world. We sold along with Fay (sharpie), Lee Noga, and a few others. It was soooo easy green __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	What you are experiencing is the biggest problem with large conventions. It is very expensive to have a big party, so much so that mutiple sponsors have to participate to lower their costs. But how many is too many --- would it be better to limit the number of people at the party? Wouldn't you be more upset if there was no room for all of your own guests? Exposure is not cheap at Internext --- and come Monday morning most people don't remember which parties they went to, let alone who sponsored them. Internext is a fun show, its great to see everyone in one place. But people need to be mindful of the sponsors and make a real effort to do some biz with them for their efforts. The sponsors of all tradeshow parties do it to support the industry and treat everyone to a good time. Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	I've been to 50 conventions over the last 4 years, almost in a row. I can tell you from experience, there is no perfect event, ever. There will be lots of problems, and dealing with them together is what has brought us closer to a lot of good companies. If there are 9 sponsors at 6k each, that ain't alot for a BIG-size crowd -- you should feel lucky to find any co-sponsorship for under $20k You get what you pay for Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra! Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 08-02-2004 at 10:50 PM..

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emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	I would think they could have at least asked the 6 for the needed funds first. Have you spoken to the other 5 about this? Your investment will soon become golden, if you turn enough heads. The drama alone will stir some pretty interesting convo and exposure at internext. __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •