Tyson Washed Up? - GoFuckYourself.com

Greg B · 07-31-2004, 10:34 AM

Okay so everyone is saying Iron Mike is washed up. That's a lonnnng way from when he was king of the ring. I remember when he was a kid training in the Catskills and guys would say how terrifiying a puncher he was. Then he went big time fast.

Now after years of troubling bullshit, rape conviction etc. he loses this latest bout.

Is he washed up?

I don't think so.

Well skill and age aren't a factor in my opinion. If he was serious and dedicated and isolated himself from all the vultures around him he could transform himself in less than 18 months into a ferocious monster unstoppable in the ring.

Books said he squandered $300 million during his career. That's freakin' scary.

Was it Don King? When Mike was with Rooney and Cuss he was rising and decent. Got around King and went down in flames.

Whatta ya' think?

beergood · 07-31-2004, 10:36 AM

Mentally done. Washed up

Marcus Aurelius · 07-31-2004, 11:13 AM

he definitely is. it all started with robin givens.

Tipsy · 07-31-2004, 11:20 AM

He's been washed-up for a very long while now. There's far more to boxing than just power and that's the stuff he'll never get back.

Indeed · 07-31-2004, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg B

Well skill and age aren't a factor in my opinion. If he was serious and dedicated and isolated himself from all the vultures around him he could transform himself in less than 18 months into a ferocious monster unstoppable in the ring.

Wrong. Thats exactly what he has done. He does not have an entourage anymore. He is now 38 years old and what you casual boxing fan don't get is that Tyson has been washed up for 15 years. He has not beaten anyone serious in about 15 years. He will never be champion again. Get over it.

Joesho · 07-31-2004, 11:23 AM

he is through, only thing left for him is bodyguard gigs....

Fletch XXX · 07-31-2004, 11:24 AM

anyone who has watched Rocky, knows how this will go.

he will be back, but NOT because of his talent.

HE TOOK A FALL last night.

he will train and come back, everyone will bet against him, he will pay off his debt.

simple.

Rocky 3 explains it all

BT · 07-31-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
he is through, only thing left for him is bodyguard gigs....

LOL or freak shows

Goatse · 07-31-2004, 11:30 AM

His main asset was speed; that's the first thing that you lose as you get older. No matter how hard he trains, those hands will never be as fast as they were in 1988. His head movment will never be what it was 15 years ago.

By the way, other than a geriatric Larry Holmes and the light-heaveyweight Michael Spinks, has Mike Tyson ever beaten a quality boxer?

Indeed · 07-31-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goatse

By the way, other than a geriatric Larry Holmes and the light-heaveyweight Michael Spinks, has Mike Tyson ever beaten a quality boxer?

NO. And he could not even beat Hollyfield who was a former cruiserweight. The bottom line is that we have one of the weakest heavyweight division of all time. Nobody out there is good. Everyone sucks. Lewis sucked real bad as well. Who has he beaten? A washed up Tyson? A decision against Hollyfied? A washed up former cruiserweight who was beaten 2 times by john ruiz and koed in 6 rounds by James toney who was a former middleweight?

loverboy · 07-31-2004, 11:46 AM

watchin the entire match, Tyson has still those terrible one-punch knockdown fist, no doubt. but one thing i pity with out champ was his inability to stand after a knockdown, it seems he doesn't have the heart anymore of a never say die fighter, where was the old Mike Tyson that we know? Is age catchin up with him or just his head?

Fletch XXX · 07-31-2004, 11:48 AM

why do you people feel sympathy and respect for a rapist?

do you respect all rapists or just some?

CheeseFrog · 07-31-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
anyone who has watched Rocky, knows how this will go.

he will be back, but NOT because of his talent.

HE TOOK A FALL last night.

he will train and come back, everyone will bet against him, he will pay off his debt.

simple.

Rocky 3 explains it all

LOL

CJswe · 07-31-2004, 11:50 AM

I definitely think he should plan yet another comeback, lack of stamina cost him this match but he could easily be there if he went back to normal training. Maybe not wc, but he could still manage some important matches.

Indeed · 07-31-2004, 11:52 AM

All you Tyson nutthuggers are pathetics, you really don't get it

Goatse · 07-31-2004, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed
Lewis sucked real bad as well. Who has he beaten?

Every top heavyweight ducked Lewis in his prime. He was kind of an enigma because he was technically better than every other guy out there (Bowe, Holy, Tyson, old Foreman), but his glass jaw made him vulnerable to one-punch KO's. I'd still put him as the top heavy of his generation.

JFK · 07-31-2004, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
anyone who has watched Rocky, knows how this will go.

he will be back, but NOT because of his talent.

HE TOOK A FALL last night.

he will train and come back, everyone will bet against him, he will pay off his debt.

simple.

Rocky 3 explains it all

I guess I better watch Rocky 3 again, just to get the story straight

BeHeadR · 07-31-2004, 11:59 AM

don't kid yourself, age plays a HUGE role in boxing. Even though Willians was up there in age to 38 is just too old. Its a shame mike had to go out like this but i guess thats life...

bdld · 07-31-2004, 12:00 PM

he might very well be washed up, but he'll still draw top dollar for every fight.

Indeed · 07-31-2004, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goatse
Every top heavyweight ducked Lewis in his prime. He was kind of an enigma because he was technically better than every other guy out there (Bowe, Holy, Tyson, old Foreman), but his glass jaw made him vulnerable to one-punch KO's. I'd still put him as the top heavy of his generation.

Lewis has never beaten anyone good because as I said we have one of the weakest heavyweight division of all time. He has beaten holy when he was washed up. John Ruiz also beat Holy 2 times and James toney kaoed him in a few rounds. James tony is a former MIDDLEWEIGHT while lewis is 6 foot 5 and only managed to win a close decision. Lewis beat Tyson who was washed up real bad. Hell, he was kaoed in 4 rounds by an european nobody! Foreman was in the Ali era, he's like 60 years old dammit lol. And as for bowe, lewis never wanted to fight him. End of story.

Doctor Dre · 07-31-2004, 12:20 PM

He definitly is

EZRhino · 07-31-2004, 12:21 PM

He is so done, he's lucky to fight in this country at all.

Greg B · 07-31-2004, 05:28 PM

Age Shmage...

I'm stronger and faster than I've ever been. Maybe because my primary workouts are pumping iron and long distance leg and swimming sports.

What Tyson needs is to get back to basics. Cut out the vultures and take responsibility for the dumb ass shit he's done.

Besides, if I wanted to pay off a $30+ million debt I'ld bet what left I had on my opponent who was 9-1 to lose. A million on that sucker, take a dive and I walk away with $9 milly...

Do that a few fights til my stats drop to 20-1 odds.. bet on myself and kick the other dude's ass.

See, that's why boxing is called the sport of finance. You can't lose.

07-31-2004, 10:34 AM	#1
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	Tyson Washed Up? Okay so everyone is saying Iron Mike is washed up. That's a lonnnng way from when he was king of the ring. I remember when he was a kid training in the Catskills and guys would say how terrifiying a puncher he was. Then he went big time fast. Now after years of troubling bullshit, rape conviction etc. he loses this latest bout. Is he washed up? I don't think so. Well skill and age aren't a factor in my opinion. If he was serious and dedicated and isolated himself from all the vultures around him he could transform himself in less than 18 months into a ferocious monster unstoppable in the ring. Books said he squandered $300 million during his career. That's freakin' scary. Was it Don King? When Mike was with Rooney and Cuss he was rising and decent. Got around King and went down in flames. Whatta ya' think?

07-31-2004, 11:20 AM	#4
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	He's been washed-up for a very long while now. There's far more to boxing than just power and that's the stuff he'll never get back. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-31-2004, 11:23 AM	#6
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	he is through, only thing left for him is bodyguard gigs.... __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

07-31-2004, 11:24 AM	#7
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	anyone who has watched Rocky, knows how this will go. he will be back, but NOT because of his talent. HE TOOK A FALL last night. he will train and come back, everyone will bet against him, he will pay off his debt. simple. Rocky 3 explains it all __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-31-2004, 11:48 AM	#12
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	why do you people feel sympathy and respect for a rapist? do you respect all rapists or just some? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-31-2004, 10:36 AM	#2
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	Mentally done. Washed up

07-31-2004, 11:13 AM	#3
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	he definitely is. it all started with robin givens.

07-31-2004, 11:30 AM	#9
Goatse Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,086	His main asset was speed; that's the first thing that you lose as you get older. No matter how hard he trains, those hands will never be as fast as they were in 1988. His head movment will never be what it was 15 years ago. By the way, other than a geriatric Larry Holmes and the light-heaveyweight Michael Spinks, has Mike Tyson ever beaten a quality boxer?

07-31-2004, 11:46 AM	#11
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	watchin the entire match, Tyson has still those terrible one-punch knockdown fist, no doubt. but one thing i pity with out champ was his inability to stand after a knockdown, it seems he doesn't have the heart anymore of a never say die fighter, where was the old Mike Tyson that we know? Is age catchin up with him or just his head?

07-31-2004, 11:50 AM	#14
CJswe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 129	I definitely think he should plan yet another comeback, lack of stamina cost him this match but he could easily be there if he went back to normal training. Maybe not wc, but he could still manage some important matches. __________________ Erotikpalatset.com - Swedes do it better Street69.com - Where did your wife go last night? Sexyvidz.com - Coming soon to a computer near YOU

07-31-2004, 11:52 AM	#15
Indeed Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,892	All you Tyson nutthuggers are pathetics, you really don't get it

07-31-2004, 11:59 AM	#18
BeHeadR Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 1,152	don't kid yourself, age plays a HUGE role in boxing. Even though Willians was up there in age to 38 is just too old. Its a shame mike had to go out like this but i guess thats life... __________________ ICQ 40402622 The only sig on GFY without spam!

07-31-2004, 12:00 PM	#19
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	he might very well be washed up, but he'll still draw top dollar for every fight.

07-31-2004, 12:21 PM	#22
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	He is so done, he's lucky to fight in this country at all.

07-31-2004, 05:28 PM	#23
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	Age Shmage... I'm stronger and faster than I've ever been. Maybe because my primary workouts are pumping iron and long distance leg and swimming sports. What Tyson needs is to get back to basics. Cut out the vultures and take responsibility for the dumb ass shit he's done. Besides, if I wanted to pay off a $30+ million debt I'ld bet what left I had on my opponent who was 9-1 to lose. A million on that sucker, take a dive and I walk away with $9 milly... Do that a few fights til my stats drop to 20-1 odds.. bet on myself and kick the other dude's ass. See, that's why boxing is called the sport of finance. You can't lose.