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I get a pop-up on Angelsofporn's ccbill revshare link

Is this an error?

It seems to appear every 2nd click only

Sly_RJ

No. But why are you promoting via CCBill? Sign up at www.skintraffic.com for better results and more cash.

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For the same reasons many others like to use CCBill programs

Why would you put a console on a revshare program in the first place?

Per signup programs may need this due to the risk of losing money on trial payouts

You however do not have this risk.

So... what's your reason to hit my surfers with a console with YOUR links in there?

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To be more precise

Just tell me if you're leaving that console on the REVSHARE CCBILL links or not

So I can drop you or not, and move on

SomeCreep

Lots of revshare programs use popups.

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And that answers my question how?

They do because others do?

And did you notice that I am talking about a CCBill link?

There is quite a difference between plain CCBill links and any other revshare program.

Revshare programs with their own backend can put their other sites into the consoles with MY codes.

CCBill programs cannot because they do not know my other codes, and they may not even have other sites within CCBill.

Angelsofporn has a console on my CCBill link, promoting 8 sites with THEIR code.

This makes no sense

StarkReality

Revshare isn't as risk free as you may think, especially small programs don't make much $$$ per member. Some costs, like models, staff, design, scripts, billing, etc. eat up a much higher % of the profit for small programs than for big programs.

When a site has many movies in the members area, preview clips on the tour, hosting costs can be nasty, too, when you aren't big enough to get the really cheap deals. Now, add a few affiliates sending huge volumes of unproductive traffic and you got a problem.

I don't like those popups, too, but it's not like webmasters adding them are greedy, some simply do it to keep their programs running without risking too much.

Rep

They're not your surfers anymore, you sold them to the program for a percent initial and recurring on any transactions that happen with that site.

Ask for no popups or move on, or better yet start your own program and realize the fact that paysites cost money to operate.

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Me sending them a surfer for a chance of a signup should hardly be a "risk" to them. More an business opportunity I would think.

And as for small programs, I would think that angelsofporn isn't that small. I remember an announcement of them AWI stating they pay out 250k to WM's each month

But regardless, the size of the program doesn't have to do anything with this anyway

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Not my surfer anymore? Guess it never was mine then?

"Not my surfer anymore", that is only true in case of pay per click or per impression

It is not the case in PPS and especially not in revshare.

Virtually all bigger programs have realized this by now and either offer no-console options, and if there are consoles, then most links in there have MY code. Besides that, PPS sponsors DO HAVE A IMMANENT RISK due to their payout model. Their is a justification for pop-ups. Angelsofporn does NOT have this risk.

Out of my 30 CCBill programs Angelsofporn is the only one with a Pop-up.


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Again, me sending them a surfer can absolutely NOT be considered as adding to their costs of operating their site. Unless of course you want to start about BANDWIDTH now.

Let's see and save yourself another post:

500 Kbyte per surfer at 20 cents per Gig makes what? Bandwidth costs of 0.01 CENTS per surfer.

That's right, 100 surfers combined cost ONE cent.

That whole "cost" argument has absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION in a case like this. NONE, ZILCH, ZERO

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angelsofporn

I can give you a no popup tour if you like. If you used the new upgrade system on the skintraffic links you would be making way more. The trials convert at 34.95 not the 24.95 you are promoting through the old ccbill links.
If you dont want to do that i can just give you $30 per sale.
Get me on icq and i can give you whatever system you like
ICQ 102973593

doober

1 popup...whats the big deal?





Im guessing you haven't noticed the 2 free trial cross sales on the join page that rebill for 40$ each lol

SmokeyTheBear

no big deal at all, ill take 1 popup on every page you have for no charge thanks!!!

Cmon its no big deal , its just 1 popup.


BTW please send me the email of all your friends that dont care about 1 popup either please.

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I want to stay with CCBill and not have a console there

If that is possible without me signing up to your program first then that is what I would like to do

From your response I am not clear if that is an option (console-free existing ccbill, i.e. by adding &HTML=..... to the CCBill link)

I wasn't looking for a "better deal" and am not interested in an $30 per sale where you may come back to prove how I wasn't worth it or anyhing for that matter. Specifically I am not looking to signup to your program but to use my old CCBill link instead.

I had already planned to include you in my next search engine project though because I considered angelsofporn to be a rather established and promising program

I simply wanted to get rid of the console which I found to be not appropriate in this specific constellation.

All my traffic is SE and I target it very well, even showing them a screenshot of the site in question before I send them.

If existing CCBill without console is not possible simply let me know. I may still consider pushing you due to your balanced response and the fact that I already invested some time now by integrating all your promo materials into my databases. I would however mark the links to you with "1 pop-up" opposed to "0 pop-ups" for other links, unless you consider this to be a breach of TOS. If so just let me know I won't argue about this and move on.

doober

you ask me to email you and you dont leave your email address?
You really are an idiot....

PS. i guess you missed the part where the surfer gets charged 120$ for a porn membership right?

In comparison what is worse the popup or the cross sales?

slapass

Angels of Porn is a great program but they are screwing up with this pop up. RevShare means no stealing the surfer. if it is a pop up then it should be my revshare code not their codes.

Http is right on this. Those of you defending it are full of shit. If it was a prgram you used you would be upset. Lightspeed had one of 7 pop-ups with their ref codes and got shit for it.

That being said move to the skintraffic links and avoid the ccbill BS that is worse then that pop up.

Oracle Porn

http you are an idiot...signup to skintraffic and get a no popup link you dumb fuck

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jennym

Not gonna comment on the pop-up issue, but seriously.....sign up for the skin traffic program. You will get much better results.

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Spacedog, what was your favorite clothing label again?

SmokeyTheBear

Are you a fucking moron or do you hallucinate regularly ??

Quote where i said to "email" me ??

Nope , didnt miss it , its pointless.

Would i rather a popup or 2 crosssales ? i would much rather 2 crosssales.

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angelsofporn

Sure..if you still want to promote with the old ccbill links with no popup i can give you a link for that also.... You would make way more with the new program though. We pay the processing fees in full instead of splitting them with you..the trials convert at 35 bucks rather than 24.95...i can pay you per sale...and i can even give you no popup links or whatever.

btw....Dont look at this
http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

dont do it

Sly_RJ

Where did you see this? We don't post on AWI.

Send an email to Jason or myself and we'll give you pop-up free codes. We aren't Nazi's, just have to ask.

[email protected]

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marzzo

I'm a sucker for "don't click on this" and that kicks ASS!! I knew a girl in high school that would queef durring study break and math class... those were the days.

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search awi for angelsofporn. Easy to find

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I sent an ICQ. Please send the CCBill link back soon without trying to reach me live

I am rarely on ICQ if ever, it could take long before we meet each



P.S.: Does Skintraffic pay with Epassporte?

nige

I asked the same question a couple of days ago and here's the answer I got from Sly_RJ:

Trax

this thread is funny

http stop being a smart ass
I hope for you that you are sending sly&jay lots of signups cuz otherwise stop wasting his time.

as oracle said
signup for skintraffic get a no popup url and get have people signup via ccbill
jesus

RicardoB

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angelsofporn

I got kinda nauseous the first time i saw it honestly..

http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

jimmyf

I'm 2

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move along noob

Sly_RJ

Just did. Found one result, had nothing to do with our affiliate program or paysites. No idea where you're getting your information.

If Jason hasn't replied to your ICQ, email me and I'll get you a link.

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