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  • http
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 1811

    #1

    Angelsofporn Pop-up

    I get a pop-up on Angelsofporn's ccbill revshare link

    Is this an error?

    It seems to appear every 2nd click only
  • Sly_RJ
    Live Hard - Die Hard
    • Feb 2002
    • 17042

    #2
    No. But why are you promoting via CCBill? Sign up at www.skintraffic.com for better results and more cash.
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    • http
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2001
      • 1811

      #3
      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
      No. But why are you promoting via CCBill? Sign up at www.skintraffic.com for better results and more cash.
      For the same reasons many others like to use CCBill programs

      Why would you put a console on a revshare program in the first place?

      Per signup programs may need this due to the risk of losing money on trial payouts

      You however do not have this risk.

      So... what's your reason to hit my surfers with a console with YOUR links in there?

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      • http
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2001
        • 1811

        #4
        To be more precise

        Just tell me if you're leaving that console on the REVSHARE CCBILL links or not

        So I can drop you or not, and move on

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        • SomeCreep
          :glugglug
          • Mar 2003
          • 26118

          #5
          Originally posted by http
          For the same reasons many others like to use CCBill programs

          Why would you put a console on a revshare program in the first place?

          Per signup programs may need this due to the risk of losing money on trial payouts

          You however do not have this risk.

          So... what's your reason to hit my surfers with a console with YOUR links in there?
          Lots of revshare programs use popups.

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          • chemicaleyes
            UNSTOPPABLE
            • Aug 2003
            • 11569

            #6
            Originally posted by SomeCreep
            Lots of revshare programs use popups.
            No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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            • http
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2001
              • 1811

              #7
              Originally posted by SomeCreep
              Lots of revshare programs use popups.
              And that answers my question how?

              They do because others do?

              And did you notice that I am talking about a CCBill link?

              There is quite a difference between plain CCBill links and any other revshare program.

              Revshare programs with their own backend can put their other sites into the consoles with MY codes.

              CCBill programs cannot because they do not know my other codes, and they may not even have other sites within CCBill.

              Angelsofporn has a console on my CCBill link, promoting 8 sites with THEIR code.

              This makes no sense

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              • StarkReality
                Confirmed User
                • May 2004
                • 4444

                #8
                Originally posted by http
                For the same reasons many others like to use CCBill programs

                Why would you put a console on a revshare program in the first place?

                Per signup programs may need this due to the risk of losing money on trial payouts

                You however do not have this risk.

                So... what's your reason to hit my surfers with a console with YOUR links in there?
                Revshare isn't as risk free as you may think, especially small programs don't make much $$$ per member. Some costs, like models, staff, design, scripts, billing, etc. eat up a much higher % of the profit for small programs than for big programs.

                When a site has many movies in the members area, preview clips on the tour, hosting costs can be nasty, too, when you aren't big enough to get the really cheap deals. Now, add a few affiliates sending huge volumes of unproductive traffic and you got a problem.

                I don't like those popups, too, but it's not like webmasters adding them are greedy, some simply do it to keep their programs running without risking too much.

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                • Rep
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 991

                  #9
                  Originally posted by http
                  So... what's your reason to hit my surfers with a console with YOUR links in there?
                  They're not your surfers anymore, you sold them to the program for a percent initial and recurring on any transactions that happen with that site.

                  Ask for no popups or move on, or better yet start your own program and realize the fact that paysites cost money to operate.

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                  • http
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1811

                    #10
                    Originally posted by StarkReality
                    Revshare isn't as risk free as you may think, especially small programs don't make much $$$ per member. Some costs, like models, staff, design, scripts, billing, etc. eat up a much higher % of the profit for small programs than for big programs.

                    When a site has many movies in the members area, preview clips on the tour, hosting costs can be nasty, too, when you aren't big enough to get the really cheap deals. Now, add a few affiliates sending huge volumes of unproductive traffic and you got a problem.

                    I don't like those popups, too, but it's not like webmasters adding them are greedy, some simply do it to keep their programs running without risking too much.

                    Me sending them a surfer for a chance of a signup should hardly be a "risk" to them. More an business opportunity I would think.

                    And as for small programs, I would think that angelsofporn isn't that small. I remember an announcement of them AWI stating they pay out 250k to WM's each month

                    But regardless, the size of the program doesn't have to do anything with this anyway

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                    • http
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1811

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rep
                      They're not your surfers anymore, you sold them to the program for a percent initial and recurring on any transactions that happen with that site.

                      Not my surfer anymore? Guess it never was mine then?

                      "Not my surfer anymore", that is only true in case of pay per click or per impression

                      It is not the case in PPS and especially not in revshare.

                      Virtually all bigger programs have realized this by now and either offer no-console options, and if there are consoles, then most links in there have MY code. Besides that, PPS sponsors DO HAVE A IMMANENT RISK due to their payout model. Their is a justification for pop-ups. Angelsofporn does NOT have this risk.

                      Out of my 30 CCBill programs Angelsofporn is the only one with a Pop-up.


                      Originally posted by Rep
                      Ask for no popups or move on, or better yet start your own program and realize the fact that paysites cost money to operate.

                      [/B][/QUOTE]


                      Again, me sending them a surfer can absolutely NOT be considered as adding to their costs of operating their site. Unless of course you want to start about BANDWIDTH now.

                      Let's see and save yourself another post:

                      500 Kbyte per surfer at 20 cents per Gig makes what? Bandwidth costs of 0.01 CENTS per surfer.

                      That's right, 100 surfers combined cost ONE cent.

                      That whole "cost" argument has absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION in a case like this. NONE, ZILCH, ZERO

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                      • angelsofporn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 3218

                        #12
                        Originally posted by http
                        Not my surfer anymore? Guess it never was mine then?

                        "Not my surfer anymore", that is only true in case of pay per click or per impression

                        It is not the case in PPS and especially not in revshare.

                        Virtually all bigger programs have realized this by now and either offer no-console options, and if there are consoles, then most links in there have MY code. Besides that, PPS sponsors DO HAVE A IMMANENT RISK due to their payout model. Their is a justification for pop-ups. Angelsofporn does NOT have this risk.

                        Out of my 30 CCBill programs Angelsofporn is the only one with a Pop-up.

                        I can give you a no popup tour if you like. If you used the new upgrade system on the skintraffic links you would be making way more. The trials convert at 34.95 not the 24.95 you are promoting through the old ccbill links.
                        If you dont want to do that i can just give you $30 per sale.
                        Get me on icq and i can give you whatever system you like
                        ICQ 102973593





                        [/B][/QUOTE]
                        Last edited by angelsofporn; 07-30-2004, 06:13 PM.

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                        • angelsofporn
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 3218

                          #13
                          I can give you a no popup tour if you like. If you used the new upgrade system on the skintraffic links you would be making way more. The trials convert at 34.95 not the 24.95 you are promoting through the old ccbill links.
                          If you dont want to do that i can just give you $30 per sale.
                          Get me on icq and i can give you whatever system you like
                          ICQ 102973593

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                          • doober
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6984

                            #14
                            1 popup...whats the big deal?





                            Im guessing you haven't noticed the 2 free trial cross sales on the join page that rebill for 40$ each lol

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                            • SmokeyTheBear
                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 28609

                              #15
                              Originally posted by doober
                              1 popup...whats the big deal?

                              no big deal at all, ill take 1 popup on every page you have for no charge thanks!!!

                              Cmon its no big deal , its just 1 popup.


                              BTW please send me the email of all your friends that dont care about 1 popup either please.
                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                              • http
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 1811

                                #16
                                I want to stay with CCBill and not have a console there

                                If that is possible without me signing up to your program first then that is what I would like to do

                                From your response I am not clear if that is an option (console-free existing ccbill, i.e. by adding &HTML=..... to the CCBill link)

                                I wasn't looking for a "better deal" and am not interested in an $30 per sale where you may come back to prove how I wasn't worth it or anyhing for that matter. Specifically I am not looking to signup to your program but to use my old CCBill link instead.

                                I had already planned to include you in my next search engine project though because I considered angelsofporn to be a rather established and promising program

                                I simply wanted to get rid of the console which I found to be not appropriate in this specific constellation.

                                All my traffic is SE and I target it very well, even showing them a screenshot of the site in question before I send them.

                                If existing CCBill without console is not possible simply let me know. I may still consider pushing you due to your balanced response and the fact that I already invested some time now by integrating all your promo materials into my databases. I would however mark the links to you with "1 pop-up" opposed to "0 pop-ups" for other links, unless you consider this to be a breach of TOS. If so just let me know I won't argue about this and move on.

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                                • doober
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 6984

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                  no big deal at all, ill take 1 popup on every page you have for no charge thanks!!!

                                  Cmon its no big deal , its just 1 popup.


                                  BTW please send me the email of all your friends that dont care about 1 popup either please.
                                  you ask me to email you and you dont leave your email address?
                                  You really are an idiot....

                                  PS. i guess you missed the part where the surfer gets charged 120$ for a porn membership right?

                                  In comparison what is worse the popup or the cross sales?

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                                  • slapass
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 14625

                                    #18
                                    Angels of Porn is a great program but they are screwing up with this pop up. RevShare means no stealing the surfer. if it is a pop up then it should be my revshare code not their codes.

                                    Http is right on this. Those of you defending it are full of shit. If it was a prgram you used you would be upset. Lightspeed had one of 7 pop-ups with their ref codes and got shit for it.

                                    That being said move to the skintraffic links and avoid the ccbill BS that is worse then that pop up.

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                                    • Oracle Porn
                                      Affiliate
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 24433

                                      #19
                                      http you are an idiot...signup to skintraffic and get a no popup link you dumb fuck


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                                      • Oracle Porn
                                        Affiliate
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 24433

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by http
                                        I want to stay with CCBill and not have a console there
                                        I want a MILLION dollars!


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                                        • jennym
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 1622

                                          #21
                                          Not gonna comment on the pop-up issue, but seriously.....sign up for the skin traffic program. You will get much better results.

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                                          • http
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 1811

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                            http you are an idiot...signup to skintraffic and get a no popup link you dumb fuck

                                            Spacedog, what was your favorite clothing label again?

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by doober
                                              you ask me to email you and you dont leave your email address?
                                              Are you a fucking moron or do you hallucinate regularly ??

                                              Quote where i said to "email" me ??

                                              Originally posted by doober


                                              PS. i guess you missed the part where the surfer gets charged 120$ for a porn membership right?

                                              In comparison what is worse the popup or the cross sales?
                                              Nope , didnt miss it , its pointless.

                                              Would i rather a popup or 2 crosssales ? i would much rather 2 crosssales.
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • angelsofporn
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 3218

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by http
                                                I want to stay with CCBill and not have a console there

                                                If that is possible without me signing up to your program first then that is what I would like to do

                                                From your response I am not clear if that is an option (console-free existing ccbill, i.e. by adding &HTML=..... to the CCBill link)

                                                I wasn't looking for a "better deal" and am not interested in an $30 per sale where you may come back to prove how I wasn't worth it or anyhing for that matter. Specifically I am not looking to signup to your program but to use my old CCBill link instead.

                                                I had already planned to include you in my next search engine project though because I considered angelsofporn to be a rather established and promising program

                                                I simply wanted to get rid of the console which I found to be not appropriate in this specific constellation.

                                                All my traffic is SE and I target it very well, even showing them a screenshot of the site in question before I send them.

                                                If existing CCBill without console is not possible simply let me know. I may still consider pushing you due to your balanced response and the fact that I already invested some time now by integrating all your promo materials into my databases. I would however mark the links to you with "1 pop-up" opposed to "0 pop-ups" for other links, unless you consider this to be a breach of TOS. If so just let me know I won't argue about this and move on.
                                                Sure..if you still want to promote with the old ccbill links with no popup i can give you a link for that also.... You would make way more with the new program though. We pay the processing fees in full instead of splitting them with you..the trials convert at 35 bucks rather than 24.95...i can pay you per sale...and i can even give you no popup links or whatever.

                                                btw....Dont look at this
                                                http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

                                                dont do it

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                                                • Sly_RJ
                                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 17042

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by http
                                                  [B]
                                                  And as for small programs, I would think that angelsofporn isn't that small. I remember an announcement of them AWI stating they pay out 250k to WM's each month
                                                  /B]
                                                  Where did you see this? We don't post on AWI.

                                                  Send an email to Jason or myself and we'll give you pop-up free codes. We aren't Nazi's, just have to ask.

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                                                  • marzzo
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 2134

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by angelsofporn

                                                    btw....Dont look at this
                                                    http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

                                                    dont do it
                                                    I'm a sucker for "don't click on this" and that kicks ASS!! I knew a girl in high school that would queef durring study break and math class... those were the days.
                                                    4 5 zero - 2 2 - nine nine nine

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                                                    • http
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 1811

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                      Where did you see this? We don't post on AWI.

                                                      Send an email to Jason or myself and we'll give you pop-up free codes. We aren't Nazi's, just have to ask.

                                                      [email protected]
                                                      search awi for angelsofporn. Easy to find

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                                                      • http
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 1811

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                                        Sure..if you still want to promote with the old ccbill links with no popup i can give you a link for that also.... You would make way more with the new program though. We pay the processing fees in full instead of splitting them with you..the trials convert at 35 bucks rather than 24.95...i can pay you per sale...and i can even give you no popup links or whatever.

                                                        btw....Dont look at this
                                                        http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

                                                        dont do it
                                                        I sent an ICQ. Please send the CCBill link back soon without trying to reach me live

                                                        I am rarely on ICQ if ever, it could take long before we meet each



                                                        P.S.: Does Skintraffic pay with Epassporte?

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                                                        • nige
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 435

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by http
                                                          P.S.: Does Skintraffic pay with Epassporte?
                                                          I asked the same question a couple of days ago and here's the answer I got from Sly_RJ:

                                                          Sorry, but we don't offer ePassporte payments at this time. I will look into it though and see what we can setup.
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                                                          • Trax
                                                            [----------------------]
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 14486

                                                            #30


                                                            this thread is funny

                                                            http stop being a smart ass
                                                            I hope for you that you are sending sly&jay lots of signups cuz otherwise stop wasting his time.

                                                            as oracle said
                                                            signup for skintraffic get a no popup url and get have people signup via ccbill
                                                            jesus

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                                                            • RicardoB
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 2576

                                                              #31

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                                                              • angelsofporn
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 3218

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by marzzo
                                                                I'm a sucker for "don't click on this" and that kicks ASS!! I knew a girl in high school that would queef durring study break and math class... those were the days.
                                                                I got kinda nauseous the first time i saw it honestly..

                                                                http://banginblacks.com/trailers/eutopia.wmv

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                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                  OU812
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 12651

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by marzzo
                                                                  I'm a sucker for "don't click on this" and that kicks ASS!! I knew a girl in high school that would queef durring study break and math class... those were the days.
                                                                  I'm 2
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                                                                  • http
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 1811

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Trax


                                                                    this thread is funny

                                                                    http stop being a smart ass
                                                                    I hope for you that you are sending sly&jay lots of signups cuz otherwise stop wasting his time.

                                                                    as oracle said
                                                                    signup for skintraffic get a no popup url and get have people signup via ccbill
                                                                    jesus

                                                                    move along noob

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                                                                    • Sly_RJ
                                                                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 17042

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by http
                                                                      search awi for angelsofporn. Easy to find
                                                                      Just did. Found one result, had nothing to do with our affiliate program or paysites. No idea where you're getting your information.

                                                                      If Jason hasn't replied to your ICQ, email me and I'll get you a link.
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