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JFK · 07-30-2004, 08:29 AM

Fitty, Lying Bush's

Evil Chris · 07-30-2004, 08:31 AM

Fuck you very much.

http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/fcc.mp3

candyflip · 07-30-2004, 08:33 AM

No response to this 12clicks?

Accomplishments As President

* Attacked and took over two countries.
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
* Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
* My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
* First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
* First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
* First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
* First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
* Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
* All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
* First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
* With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
* Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

crockett · 07-30-2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris
Fuck you very much.

http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/fcc.mp3

LOL

Giorgio_Xo · 07-30-2004, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
children and their silly thoughts.

Yes, lets be like canada where you wait 7 months to get an MRI to see if you have brain cancer.

12 Clicks, you are an idiot. It takes you 7 months to get an MRI with a for-profit HMO. For-profit health care is a joke. You have no idea how difficult it has been the past two months to get HMO doctors to diagnose a household member. They refuse to perform more than one basic test at a time in an attempt to save money. In the end we have spent 4 times the time doing all the test we had originally requested.

benc · 07-30-2004, 08:36 AM

Just because something is posted on the internet dosen't make it fact.

12clicks · 07-30-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
I don't think people dislike him because he isn't a good reader or speaker.

This list here probably does a good job summing it up. Name me a few positives to offset this one please.

Accomplishments As President

* Attacked and took over two countries.

so you didn't want him to attack afghanistan or iraq? you're basically alone there.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

first lie of many you've cut and pasted. the treasury is not bankrupted and the surplus was spent on pulling the economy out of the collapse of the clinton false economy and and on the war against terror.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

lie number two. it wasn't shattered and in fact as a % of GDP isn't even the largest.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

shall we call this a lie or you stretching the truth?
The bankruptcies occured when the false clinton economy came tumbling down. had nothing to do with Bush. Thankfully, he knew how to dig us out of it.,

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

he set the record? you're an idiot. he had nothing to do with the false economy, he just inherited its collapse.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

I guess if you love criminals or see yourself becoming one in the future, this is a bad thing.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

lie #4

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Originally posted by candyflip
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.

lie #5. you really shouldn't get your facts from michael moore. it just makes you look stupid.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

see above.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.

when you're popular, it happends.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

because of clintons false economy and 9/11. without Bush's wise direction, we could have lost millions more.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.

what # lie is this? I'm losing track.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

again, the economy he inherited is the cause.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.

really? Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, they're criminals? another lie.

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

now there's a reason to hate the president. hahahaha

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Originally posted by candyflip
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.

the consitution has been amended by Bush?

I'm going to stop here. you're obviously not a very bright guy to cut and paste this drivel under your own name without checking out the facts.

Sadly, when you're this misguided, there's no hope for you.

candyflip · 07-30-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by benc
Just because something is posted on the internet dosen't make it fact.

Anyone can't make that comment. Feel free to point out any inconsistencies.

12clicks · 07-30-2004, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
12 Clicks, you are an idiot. It takes you 7 months to get an MRI with a for-profit HMO. For-profit health care is a joke. You have no idea how difficult it has been the past two months to get HMO doctors to diagnose a household member. They refuse to perform more than one basic test at a time in an attempt to save money. In the end we have spent 4 times the time doing all the test we had originally requested.

you're a liar. If I need a test, I go see a doctor and get it.
perhaps its the welfare hmo that does things like the canadian system.

12clicks · 07-30-2004, 08:41 AM

with logic like this, its no wonder most of you still live with mom.

KRL · 07-30-2004, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by MattO
The guy is a complete moron. The way he smirks after delivering his "lines" makes me ill.

That cocky elite smirk speaks volumes of the man's character and you are not alone in recognizing it and being bothered by it.

We need a regime change and we need it now.

I've been a Republican my entire life. I can not however support an administration so far to the right as this one is.

Maybe the Republican's will get it together again, but right now they don't.

Please support John Kerry / John Edwards. Every dollar helps.

Go to http://www.JohnKerry.com and you can make a quick small donation online.

I've given twice already to his campaign.

pussyluver · 07-30-2004, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
12 Clicks, you are an idiot. It takes you 7 months to get an MRI with a for-profit HMO. For-profit health care is a joke. You have no idea how difficult it has been the past two months to get HMO doctors to diagnose a household member. They refuse to perform more than one basic test at a time in an attempt to save money. In the end we have spent 4 times the time doing all the test we had originally requested.

If you have money, life is better. Maybe that is good news in the end because if we manage to obtain money, atleast there is a solution. There is no question HMOs suck! Insurance companies with normal doctors are getting worse too. It is harder and harder to get what you need.

I'm lucky in that I have a doctor that cares and goes out of his way to ensure I get the best possible care. Other's aren't so lucky. We pay just under a grand a month for two of us on medical insurance. Yet we have to wait to the last pill to get a script filled. And the insurance won't pay when the drugstore can't count or something else goes wrong.

Walgreens (local drug store) won't fill a script without insurance company approval. I have to throw a fit to get the drugs even with cash inhand and an open script.

Not sure you can blame all this on Bush, it started getting worse before he got to office. And he has been so busy with that war you know.

pussyluver · 07-30-2004, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
That cocky elite smirk speaks volumes of the man's character and you are not alone in recognizing it and being bothered by it.

We need a regime change and we need it now.

I've been a Republican my entire life. I can not however support an administration so far to the right as this one is.

Maybe the Republican's will get it together again, but right now they don't.

Please support John Kerry / John Edwards. Every dollar helps.

Go to http://www.JohnKerry.com and you can make a quick small donation online.

I've given twice already to his campaign.

Well put, thank you!

A life long Republican myself!

PL

12clicks · 07-30-2004, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
That cocky elite smirk speaks volumes of the man's character and you are not alone in recognizing it and being bothered by it.

We need a regime change and we need it now.

I've been a Republican my entire life. I can not however support an administration so far to the right as this one is.

Maybe the Republican's will get it together again, but right now they don't.

Please support John Kerry / John Edwards. Every dollar helps.

Go to http://www.JohnKerry.com and you can make a quick small donation online.

I've given twice already to his campaign.

ahahahaha, sure.

well I've been a democrat all my life but I'm supporting Bush.

please...................

fusionx · 07-30-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
children and their silly thoughts.

Yes, lets be like canada where you wait 7 months to get an MRI to see if you have brain cancer.

I'vce been waiting over a year and a half for an appointment for gastric problems at the VA. Tell me about 7 months. And I'm service connected priority. 7 months would be sweet.

ColBigBalls · 07-30-2004, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
children and their silly thoughts.

Yes, lets be like canada where you wait 7 months to get an MRI to see if you have brain cancer.

Yeah maby its slow but that because EVERYONE up here has the oprtunity for health care.. not just the ones who can aford it.

KRL · 07-30-2004, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
ahahahaha, sure.

well I've been a democrat all my life but I'm supporting Bush.

please...................

To be candid, I think the 2 party system has had its day and that's why its not working well anymore. Too many issues and you just can't neatly split them between the parties because within the parties now you have moderates, centrists, and extremists.

I'm looking for the candidate who is as close to the center as possible within the parameters of that parties traditional platform on key issues.

I love the fact that Bush is so pro business. But it doesn't distribute wealth for the middle class and I'd rather be taxed than see the middle class get squeezed.

Tom_PMs · 07-30-2004, 09:11 AM

Can't blame people for being too scared to be against the current president. If you're not with us, you're against us. The policy of fear works.

It's lead by example. The leader bulls ahead in the face of overwhelming sentiment. He's labled anyone with a conscience as a "flip-flopper".

So expecting hard-liners who thinks he can do no wrong to become enlightened is a waste of energy.

Only half the country votes, so the best thing is to get out and register new voters. Some are too far gone, or too bloody rich, to want change.

Sure, if you're rich with kick ass health care, you could go buy yourself a doctor and get an MRI scan today. I recommend it

The Truth Hurts · 07-30-2004, 09:12 AM

idiots.... When Bush smiles after a line, it isn't because he's cocky or elite... it's because he made it through a whole sentence without tripping over a word or two. As a SHITTY public speaker, I do the same thing.

ImLost · 07-30-2004, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
so you didn't want him to attack afghanistan or iraq? you're basically alone there.

first lie of many you've cut and pasted. the treasury is not bankrupted and the surplus was spent on pulling the economy out of the collapse of the clinton false economy and and on the war against terror.

lie number two. it wasn't shattered and in fact as a % of GDP isn't even the largest.

shall we call this a lie or you stretching the truth?
The bankruptcies occured when the false clinton economy came tumbling down. had nothing to do with Bush. Thankfully, he knew how to dig us out of it.,

he set the record? you're an idiot. he had nothing to do with the false economy, he just inherited its collapse.

I guess if you love criminals or see yourself becoming one in the future, this is a bad thing.

lie #4

lie #5. you really shouldn't get your facts from michael moore. it just makes you look stupid.

see above.
when you're popular, it happends.

because of clintons false economy and 9/11. without Bush's wise direction, we could have lost millions more.

what # lie is this? I'm losing track.

again, the economy he inherited is the cause.

really? Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, they're criminals? another lie.

now there's a reason to hate the president. hahahaha

the consitution has been amended by Bush?

I'm going to stop here. you're obviously not a very bright guy to cut and paste this drivel under your own name without checking out the facts.

Sadly, when you're this misguided, there's no hope for you.

this is the only intelligent political post i seen yet at GFY.

sacX · 07-30-2004, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
[B]economy out of the collapse of the clinton false economy and and on the war against terror.

so longest period of sustained growth followed by shallowest recession on record you call a "false economy"..

Republicans could take a lot of credit with control of the congress, but oh no it was "false"

Juicy D. Links · 07-30-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
Yup.
please point out something you think he did wrong.

The war in Iraq? WMD Bullshit?

sacX · 07-30-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
The war in Iraq? WMD Bullshit?

It would take a lot of character to admit mistakes have been made in Iraq.

12clicks · 07-30-2004, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
The war in Iraq? WMD Bullshit?

WMDs are not bullshit. There was no one, repeat, NO ONE who thought he didn't have them. now, for the sake of politics, you've all forgotten what every country and every democrat had to say about it before the war.

Also, saddam did not live up to the peace agreement he signed to save himself from total destruction after the 1st gulf war. We had every right to go into iraq and be sure he didn't have them.

(of course, 10 yrs of UN fuckups has allowed them to go missing now)

did you catch the news blurb about Russia giving the US info on saddam trying to plan attacks on the US?
I'll bet not because it doesn't fit the picture the liberal media wants you to to buy into.

Morgan · 07-30-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Boy this guy is such a dipshit......

OLd people in US having to go to Canada cause they cant afford drugs in US and then getting HEAT from it. Why? Bush has buddies in the pharmaceutical world...

What a fucker. I hope to god he does not get relected. I despise him.

Me too. Vote Kerry!

Juicy D. Links · 07-30-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Me too. Vote Kerry!

sacX · 07-30-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
WMDs are not bullshit. There was no one, repeat, NO ONE who thought he didn't have them. now, for the sake of politics, you've all forgotten what every country and every democrat had to say about it before the war.

Also, saddam did not live up to the peace agreement he signed to save himself from total destruction after the 1st gulf war. We had every right to go into iraq and be sure he didn't have them.

(of course, 10 yrs of UN fuckups has allowed them to go missing now)

did you catch the news blurb about Russia giving the US info on saddam trying to plan attacks on the US?
I'll bet not because it doesn't fit the picture the liberal media wants you to to buy into.

The whole world wasn't planning to invade, the responsibility for the evidence was with the United States.
You probably don't even think the CIA made any mistakes.

and now your best evidence that Saddam was going to attack is Putin

NickPapageorgio · 07-30-2004, 10:34 AM

Yeah Russia warned us...and as we all know Russia is SO trustworthy with their information. Can anyone say missing warheads in suitcases? Yeah...I knew you could.

SexxxyChat-T · 07-30-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
children and their silly thoughts.

Yes, lets be like canada where you wait 7 months to get an MRI to see if you have brain cancer.

At least you'll get it, which is more then can be said for people without insurance here in the States.

theking · 07-30-2004, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fusionx
I'vce been waiting over a year and a half for an appointment for gastric problems at the VA. Tell me about 7 months. And I'm service connected priority. 7 months would be sweet.

I have never waited months for any appointments. I do not know what VA hospital you are going to but it is long over due for you to contact your Congressman (assuming you may not have done so) as it sounds like you have a bad Hospital Administrator.

theking · 07-30-2004, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
To be candid, I think the 2 party system has had its day and that's why its not working well anymore. Too many issues and you just can't neatly split them between the parties because within the parties now you have moderates, centrists, and extremists.

I'm looking for the candidate who is as close to the center as possible within the parameters of that parties traditional platform on key issues.

I love the fact that Bush is so pro business. But it doesn't distribute wealth for the middle class and I'd rather be taxed than see the middle class get squeezed.

We do not have a two party system...we have a multiple party system. It is just that people still predominantly choose to go with the two oldest and most popular parties. Voters will decide when these two parties have "had its day"...or not.

Fletch XXX · 07-30-2004, 11:31 AM

Living as we rot,
Showered with shadows of dreams devoured.
Our souls descend into endless seas of sin.
There's no turning back.
No repenting, no remorse.
Hate stricken creation.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

It's time to burn.
Burn alive.
Burn at the stake.

Our eyes crystal clear,
our bodies frozen with fear,
and there's nothing to save us now from endless suffering and solitude.
We've lost the chance to save this dying world.
So we pay the price,
of which no one can afford.

This is our last breath.
The first in a world.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

Ironhorse · 07-30-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
12 clicks HAS SPOKEN!!!!

I just farted! Coincidence?

Lev · 07-30-2004, 12:13 PM

So does this mean Juicy, that you officially endorse Kerry for president?

Babagirls · 07-30-2004, 12:25 PM

i hope no one in this biz is voting for Bush......might as well leave now if you are.

EviLSuperstaR · 07-30-2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
Yeah Russia warned us...and as we all know Russia is SO trustworthy with their information. Can anyone say missing warheads in suitcases? Yeah...I knew you could.

Exactly Putin is merely buying himself the goodwill to do whatever he wants to do in Czechnya

TheJimmy · 07-30-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fusionx
I've voted Republican (for presidential elections) all my life.

This year I'm switching. Kerry looks good to me. Bush just.. well.. I don't really have the words.

a recurring theme with more and more people I run into everyday...

bush is TOAST

Steen2 · 07-30-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
dude that had nothing to do with it. he wasn't even working on any of the shit he promissed before that happened. The Space shuttle burnt up last year, Bush has been in office almost 4 years. He had two years to do anything, but nothing was done.

Now I will agree 9-11 got us side tracked, but can't be used as a excuse to not do nothing he promissed to the space program.

We have pressing issues to deal with on our own planet..

candyflip · 07-30-2004, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
a recurring theme with more and more people I run into everyday...

bush is TOAST

My parents are Repubs. My dad is on the town council and has participated on local politics for years.

They're both voting for Kerry, and are appalled with what Bush and his cronies have done to the Republican party.

My grandma...another Republican...thinks Bush is a war criminal. She's renting a van and taking people who can't make it to vote on their own to the polls. She lives in a predominently black community, so I'm betting that these folks won't be voting for Bush either.

dig420 · 07-30-2004, 12:51 PM

the only good thing about 12clicks and the other conservative republican pornographers is that they won't be able to vote after Asscrack puts them in jail. They'll be convicted felons.

But I bet you Ronnie will still be conservative and think everyone else is an idiot while he's bent over in his cell making Leroy happy

dig420 · 07-30-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
Yeah Russia warned us...and as we all know Russia is SO trustworthy with their information. Can anyone say missing warheads in suitcases? Yeah...I knew you could.

can you say murdered Russian journalists?

Putin is a thug.

Centurion · 07-30-2004, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
because he's not a good public speaker?

only shallow minds choose a candidate on *how* he sounds.

That's not the issue.
The issue is what has he DONE for this country.

Please give one concrete thing that he has done that has improved this country since he took office. I've noticed the Republicans can never come up with anything specific, just the usual generalizations.

dig420 · 07-30-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
WMDs are not bullshit. There was no one, repeat, NO ONE who thought he didn't have them. now, for the sake of politics, you've all forgotten what every country and every democrat had to say about it before the war.

Also, saddam did not live up to the peace agreement he signed to save himself from total destruction after the 1st gulf war. We had every right to go into iraq and be sure he didn't have them.

(of course, 10 yrs of UN fuckups has allowed them to go missing now)

did you catch the news blurb about Russia giving the US info on saddam trying to plan attacks on the US?
I'll bet not because it doesn't fit the picture the liberal media wants you to to buy into.

BULL FUCKING SHIT!!! Everybody KNEW that he did NOT have wmd's. For every report that could be interpreted, if you really really wanted to, to intimate that he had wmds there were FOUR that said there way no way he could have them.

Bush and Co. cherry picked the info they wanted, tried to pass off info they KNEW was bad (yellowcake) as incriminating and generally just relied on a large enough % of the population being really stupid so they could get away with it.

You say dems voted for the war too. Well what the fuck else could they do? Most of them knew, or at least suspected, that Bush was totally full of shit with his 'evidence' but they don't have the access to intelligence the President does. To a certain extent they have to take his word for it, even when they're pretty sure he's a total fucking idiot.

That's why it's important to have a President with a certain amount of competence.

How does it feel to know that your idol killed 1,000 americans and countless Iraqis for nothing 12clicks?

tranza · 07-30-2004, 12:58 PM

Your stocks have just gone up in my book Juicy.

FUCK BUSH!

dig420 · 07-30-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
That's not the issue.
The issue is what has he DONE for this country.

Please give one concrete thing that he has done that has improved this country since he took office. I've noticed the Republicans can never come up with anything specific, just the usual generalizations.

Just like they always call Michael Moore a liar without ever being able to say exactly what he lied about.

There'll always be enough Ronnies in this country who take their word for it.

Tom_PMs · 07-30-2004, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
Just like they always call Michael Moore a liar without ever being able to say exactly what he lied about.

There'll always be enough Ronnies in this country who take their word for it.

Lol yep thats right. Their official word was that they didnt need to see it in order to know it was all lies. lmao

Born with a silver foot in his mouth..

Centurion · 07-30-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
WMDs are not bullshit. There was no one, repeat, NO ONE who thought he didn't have them.

Totally incorrect! Not only did the intelligence agencies of other nations tell Bush that there were not WsMD in Iraq, but Bush's own intellgence agencies in the lower echelons submitted reports saying the same.

But Bush was insistent that they FIND some intelligence that supported the WsMD issue, and that's why he told his advisors after 9/11 to FIND evidence supporting this theory!

EVEN the U.N. inspectors said they could find none, and even then, Bush would not wait for them to finish their inspection.
WHY would it have been harmful to allow the inspectors to finish their job??

ColBigBalls · 07-30-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
WMDs are not bullshit. There was no one, repeat, NO ONE who thought he didn't have them. now, for the sake of politics, you've all forgotten what every country and every democrat had to say about it before the war.

Also, saddam did not live up to the peace agreement he signed to save himself from total destruction after the 1st gulf war. We had every right to go into iraq and be sure he didn't have them.

(of course, 10 yrs of UN fuckups has allowed them to go missing now)

did you catch the news blurb about Russia giving the US info on saddam trying to plan attacks on the US?
I'll bet not because it doesn't fit the picture the liberal media wants you to to buy into.

one of the major points i think heres is more HOW the war started now why. Sadam was a bag of shit and needed to be removed from powewr. ITs the way it was done that i question. Yes i agree the UN had there thumb up there ass in regards to sadam and the last ten years. Was Military intervention required. Probably.. just not then and to this degree. And doing it now without UN support leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the rest of the world.

I was for the removal of sadam.. but as far as the occupation and whatnot i beleave it was miss handled just my

Tom_PMs · 07-30-2004, 01:23 PM

Yep, of course it's how it was handled (whether you call it lies, or extreme incompetence).

Nukes? No credible evidence, but it was put forth in a way that insinuated STRONG evidence.

WMD? No credible evidence, was put forth as VERY strong "evidence" but revealed to be "assumed" by all parties.

Link to 9/11? No credible evidence of anything but a cursory "hello" at most.

So now we hear it was to:

Liberate the people of Iraq from a brutal dictator? Huh? No democrat or republican voted "Aye" for THAT reason!

Because hussein gassed kurds? Huh? He did THAT in the late 1980's, Hello! We could have killed hussein in 1991 desert storm if we felt so strongly about it.

But thats the latest spin being put on it. If it's not one thing, it'll be another and die hards will just toe that line.

So you see, it makes no sense to make sense when if one reason is discredited, they just move onto another "reason", no matter how unrelated.

theking · 07-30-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!! Everybody KNEW that he did NOT have wmd's. For every report that could be interpreted, if you really really wanted to, to intimate that he had wmds there were FOUR that said there way no way he could have them.

Why then did the Israeli...French...German...British...Russian intel agencies concur that Iraq possessed WMD/WMD materials? Why then was 1441 passed by the UN Security counsel...by all 15 members? Ignore the facts all you want pothead...it does not change them.

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Bush and Co. cherry picked the info they wanted, tried to pass off info they KNEW was bad (yellowcake) as incriminating and generally just relied on a large enough % of the population being really stupid so they could get away with it.

It is now being reported that the "yellowcake" may be the only thing the intel agencies got right. Apparently the one document was a forged document but does not alter the fact that Iraq was attempting to aquire "yellowcake". Pay attention...Danny boy...you are behind the current news in this matter...or do you just choose to ignore it?

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You say dems voted for the war too. Well what the fuck else could they do? Most of them knew, or at least suspected, that Bush was totally full of shit with his 'evidence' but they don't have the access to intelligence the President does. To a certain extent they have to take his word for it, even when they're pretty sure he's a total fucking idiot.

Wrong...Danny boy...the House and Senate Intel Committees have the same intel available to them as the President does...and if I recall correctly they voted to a man and woman to provide the President with the power to use our military "as he deems necessary". Educate yourself...pothead before you speak.

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That's why it's important to have a President with a certain amount of competence.

How does it feel to know that your idol killed 1,000 americans and countless Iraqis for nothing 12clicks?

They have not died for nothing...they have died to achieve a mission and the mission in Iraq is an extention of the war on "terrorism". There is a big picture Danny boy...but with your very limited insight you will never see the big picture. WMD's was but a small part of the big picture. You are an ultra left wing pot smoking extremist...with a tiny amount of brain power...and that is all you are...Danny boy.

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