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Okay so I hired this guy to work with me on search engines...but I realized I will have no clue if he's actually working. I mean obviously if my site starts getting more traffic...then I'd know....but in the meantime how I do I know he's doing anything?
I already paid him half the money up front and I told him when I see SOME results I'll pay the other half of the money. Now he could have just taken my money and run...who knows. The price I paid him is 350.00 total and half now...I told him once I start seeing some results then I will pay him 500.00 monthly to keep me on top. I dunno if I was being hasty with this guy...I'm a lil worried now, but I don't know if I should be. Any SE experts out there know what I should be looking for? And if this guy doesn't get me any results are their any reputable people who do this? Thanks, Shannon |
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You paid $350 total to hire an SEO? What did this SE guy say he'll do for you for that little money??
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He said he'd get me to the top of search engines, he gave me one site as a reference....but I didn't call them. I'm too trusting...and a lil gulible thrown in. I dunno what to do now ![]() |
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If you can tell us what exactly your SEO person is doing for you, then I can offer some advice (in this thread only please
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You got taken.
Now go and find a decent SEO and pay the price. |
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has he made any changes to your site at all? Meta tags, site map, anchor text? |
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SEO for 350$?
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These guys actually know what they are doing, and have a really cool "lease" program. I strongly suggest checking them out. |
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![]() I know Nitechatdottv was advertising his wares for $350.. Why don't you contact your seo and ask him what he is doing. If you put the name of your site up here I will give you a $350 appraisal for nothing. |
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MakeMeGrrrrowl , Its easy, if the SEO is REALLY good in SE game, he dont work for other ppl or do seminars. You have 2 choice in SEO game. Ill give you 2 diff samples. Type 1 : Wireguy Do his shit alone, and dont talk to much. Get the more info , study alot , and dont talk to much on SEO secrets. Work for himself. Type 2 : SEguru : A suposed SEO , but in fact more a good marketing guy who fuck n00b in SE seminars with his refererbomb php script for sale to get high page rank.. lol , if the SEO talk to much, dont hire it. Yes, i sugest you to charge back via paypal if you see nothing What was the domain name he worked for? |
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If its for the site in your sig then $350 wont do shit man.The type of site you are trying to get search engine traffic for is very,very hard to do.Takes 12 months of hard work and planning.
For some reason everybody wants to copy Jays or Hoes and they haven't a clue what it entails.If you are new to the game of SEO start of with a smaller niche siteand use plenty of original text.Don't just fill it up with links.Stop chasing the "free porn" words and get some decent original pic content.Make it a site worth linking to and then find other related quality sites with minimun outbound links on it and trade links with them.If they wont trade with you because you have no pr then buy a couple of links to get some pr.With that $350 you could've had a pr5 for 2 months. Then when you have done all that the hard work begins and then you hire a SEO like myself ![]() |
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1. The product 2. The SE 3. The search phrase 4. The cost per click what might work with one SE could possibly have zero results with another |
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True, lots of ppl try to copy jays now.. its funny |
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It's for http://www.princessphonesex.com that's my main site. I have like 50 + domains but that's my main most important one. |
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When I contacted findwhat to find out what's going on....she basically said we have no control over where our affiliates place you on their site. Cause I was bidding 14 cents on a keyword/phrase and other sites were ahead of me...at 14 cents...my site was not even showing on the first page of some of the major affiliate sites. So they said well you're number one on our site, and I'm like what good is it to be number one when I have NEVER had one visitor from your site come to mine. Anyway, big run around and now the affilates are not even listing me on the first page in some cases and my bids are still higher than people who are placed before me...doesn't make sense. |
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So bottom line is I got scammed. I checked out the sites that were sent in this message board and I e-mailed one of the companies...I have not fully read the other companies site.
So what can I realistically expect to pay when looking for someone? What questions do I ask? How do I know if they're doing what they say they're doing? Money wouldn't be such an issue normally but at this point until results are definite, I still have to do the PPC and I can't afford the money I pay for PPC AND just about that same amount for a SE Expert. Eventually phasing out the ppc and raising the SE money is what I would need to do, but until then....I'm a lil stuck. On top of getting scammed....SEVEN fucking charge backs today. This guy is going to get it when I get a hold of him. All in all I'm down 450.00 today so far. I should just go back to bed!!!! |
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I checked out SEOCentral and this is what I got.
Shannon, Thank you for your interest in SEOcentral. Unfortunately at this time we are unable to meet your request. Best Regards, The SEOcentral Team. All I asked for was information and gave the girl my URL and this is the letter I got??? WTF! |
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that site you showed needs way more SEO to get listed nicely...it is almost all graphics...get some text in there and something to make the search engines pick up on keywords
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lol, I guess that's what I was trying to hire someone to do? If I could just read and understand, I could do it my damn self, but for some fucked up reason my brain is all backwards and I can't actually learn something by reading...I actually have to do it and when you're not seeing results right away, I would have no idea if what i was doing was right or not, so I can see myself spending weeks doing something...no results only to find out I was doing it all wrong. ![]() |
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I was talking with a friend yesterday icq and it sounds like the same guy that scammed her. She paid him $300 via paypal - 1/2 down and the other half when the results are seen. Can you post the guys details? His board name, email etc... It Might help some others out when he pulls his scam.
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Okay so he got upset about the paypal dispute. =(
Anyway he talked to me in a message and I gave him 30 days for me to see results and he agrees to refund my money if there are no results in 30 days. I dunno....I guess if he doesn't then I lost 175.00 (since I never gave him the other half) and learned a very valuable lesson. |
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Hire swami for one hour. he will do more for you in that hour then you can believe. I can do the same hit me up for $200 i will tell you enough to do it yourself. It is not rocket science.
icq REMOVED talk to Swami Just a heads up but the $200 is up front. It won't take an hour of phone time to straigthen you out. |
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![]() Are you after a free link or somethin' ? Hook up with Slapass ,MakeMeGrrrrowl, he probably knows more than me.Like he said,Its not rocket science. |
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lol...now I'm suspicious of everyone.
You say send me 200.00 and now I'm thinking scam. =( |
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phone sex phonesex cheap phone sex I'm sure it wont happen but he GUARANTEE'S a first page placement. I'm not still being gullible. If he does anything I will be surprised honestly, but again...lesson learned. He's suppsoe to be working on my pages as we speak. |
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i'm also in SEO business (mainstream) but normally when you want your site optimalised the first thing the SEO'er must do is FIND some keywords where he can garantee a top 10 position
how? well that is the 'magic' of the SEO (but i can tell you I do it and it costs me some money when i see those 3 keywords i tell you: i can only garantee you a top10 position in the keywords "cheap phone sex" My ![]() Tb btw SEO costs a lot We have some companies paying +50000? / Year for their site being SEO. |
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