Military draft in 2k5? - GoFuckYourself.com

hydro · 07-11-2004, 09:52 PM

Yes?
No?
Maybe?

From what I heard, there is both a republican and democrat version of the draft. That?s only what I heard, I haven?t had a chance of looking into it.

brizzad · 07-11-2004, 09:53 PM

the idea is up

but times have changed, a draft will not go well with the american people

NiTe-HaWk · 07-11-2004, 09:53 PM

All I know is if it happens here I come Mexico then across seas.

mrthumbs · 07-11-2004, 09:53 PM

your sig is cool

Lycanthrope · 07-11-2004, 09:54 PM

I hope so. It will give some of these otherwise useless punks something else to do besides ecstasy.

herbal logic · 07-11-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I hope so. It will give some of these otherwise useless punks something else to do besides ecstasy.

lol

QualityMpegs · 07-11-2004, 09:56 PM

Phew...that'd be so scary. They don't need to be pulling kids into war like that. I heard rumors that they could draft you even if you are full time in school. Rumors.

jwerd · 07-11-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I hope so. It will give some of these otherwise useless punks something else to do besides ecstasy.

word... lol

hydro · 07-11-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk
All I know is if it happens here I come Mexico then across seas.

Thats my plan as well.

creegan · 07-11-2004, 09:58 PM

never

it's just propaganda from the left. first of all, our presence in the middle east is about to begin to phase out, back to normal, because of the huge UN support. second of all, there's a shitload of reservists, and active duty troops that could handle just about anything. why draft unskilled unwilling "soldiers" when you have people who are constantly training for combat situations?

edit: added a couple words that my fingers forgot the first time around

hydro · 07-11-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by QualityMpegs
Phew...that'd be so scary. They don't need to be pulling kids into war like that. I heard rumors that they could draft you even if you are full time in school. Rumors.

Yea ive been hearing the same. If thats true, then that is seriously fucked up. The only problem is that you really cant trust what you here these days since people will change it up or mix it with other things.

NiTe-HaWk · 07-11-2004, 10:05 PM

Check out the bills S 89 and HR 163. Search google and you will find a ton on it.
You are right about college not being a way out.
check here

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Deferments for education only through high school graduation, or until the age of 20.

from that site
also check here

creegan · 07-11-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk
Check out the bills S 89 and HR 163. Search google and you will find a ton on it.
You are right about college not being a way out.
check here
from that site

just gain weight

VirtuMike · 07-11-2004, 10:15 PM

Hopefully if the Dems win we won't need a draft - because we won't be at war. What a great day that would be.

Oh well, war is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-11-2004, 10:18 PM

finaly keyboard warriors can die for america, it's a revolution.

vending_machine · 07-11-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by creegan
never

it's just propaganda from the left. first of all, our presence in the middle east is about to begin to phase out, back to normal, because of the huge UN support. second of all, there's a shitload of reservists, and active duty troops that could handle just about anything. why draft unskilled unwilling "soldiers" when you have people who are constantly training for combat situations?

edit: added a couple words that my fingers forgot the first time around

UN has a "huge" army to send to Iraq? Let me know where you got that information from...

There most likely will be a draft in 2005, Republican or Democratic president, doesn't matter. Quite a few of the troops currently in Iraq have been there 6+ months longer than they were expected to and are worn out, the amount we have right now is not enough to secure the country.

dready · 07-11-2004, 10:32 PM

tee hee

Sosa · 07-11-2004, 10:34 PM

I hope and don't think it will happen.

Rochard · 07-11-2004, 11:03 PM

You can run to Mexico or run to Canada. Fucking cowards.

Odd thing - while everyone is screaming that our military is over taxed.... I don't think it is. There are some 150,000 troops in Iraq, right? The US Marine Corps - The smallest branch of our armed forces - has 400,000 (last I heard anyhow).

Do you really mean to tell me that 1/4 of the Marines would cause a shortage in military manpower? And do you think that if our forces were weak it would public information?

I think they are crying wolf. Maybe the military wants more money or something.

Honeyslut · 07-12-2004, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
You can run to Mexico or run to Canada. Fucking cowards.

Odd thing - while everyone is screaming that our military is over taxed.... I don't think it is. There are some 150,000 troops in Iraq, right? The US Marine Corps - The smallest branch of our armed forces - has 400,000 (last I heard anyhow).

Do you really mean to tell me that 1/4 of the Marines would cause a shortage in military manpower? And do you think that if our forces were weak it would public information?

I think they are crying wolf. Maybe the military wants more money or something.

about 100 bases were closed between 88 and mid 90s

Jason Fromm · 07-12-2004, 02:50 AM

What is the age limitations on the draft? I threw out my card when I turned 26...

NiTe-HaWk · 07-12-2004, 03:11 AM

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You can run to Mexico or run to Canada. Fucking cowards.

Can't go to Canada. They will send you back.

It is not being a coward. It is not wanting to waste my time or my life on something I don't give a shit about.

hydro · 07-12-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk
Can't go to Canada. They will send you back.

It is not being a coward. It is not wanting to waste my time or my life on something I don't give a shit about.

Agreed. If iraq was invading the us, then i wouldnt have that big of a problem with a draft. But thats not the case.

jayeff · 07-12-2004, 05:19 AM

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Originally posted by creegan
our presence in the middle east is about to begin to phase out, back to normal, because of the huge UN support. second of all, there's a shitload of reservists, and active duty troops that could handle just about anything.

Donald Rumsfeld recently talked of "a long hard slog": perhaps you should update him with your view of events in Iraq? And FYI the US has troops in various numbers in around 70% of all the countries in the world - http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance8.html - a heavy routine commitment which doesn't allow too much room for large-scale military adventures. You also appear to have ignored the fact that the Defense Department has already found it necessary to summon the Individual Ready Reserve.

The only thing I can agree with is that much of the speculation about S89 and HR163 is just speculation. However it doesn't hurt to know that such bills are floating around because it at least tells those affected what some of their representatives are up to.

creegan · 07-12-2004, 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by vending_machine
UN has a "huge" army to send to Iraq? Let me know where you got that information from...

There most likely will be a draft in 2005, Republican or Democratic president, doesn't matter. Quite a few of the troops currently in Iraq have been there 6+ months longer than they were expected to and are worn out, the amount we have right now is not enough to secure the country.

it's not about huge numbers. un forces will be slowly taking the place of the majority of us forces in iraq. by huge support, i was commenting on how even the countries who opposed our presence there will be sending soldiers. even though many of the troops in iraq have been there for longer than expected, it's not an issue of manpower, as much as it is the inability to rotate forces. to say that they are worn out just isn't accurate, morale is very high over there, but you'll never see that on the news.

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Originally posted by jayeff
Donald Rumsfeld recently talked of "a long hard slog": perhaps you should update him with your view of events in Iraq? And FYI the US has troops in various numbers in around 70% of all the countries in the world - http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance8.html - a heavy routine commitment which doesn't allow too much room for large-scale military adventures. You also appear to have ignored the fact that the Defense Department has already found it necessary to summon the Individual Ready Reserve.

The only thing I can agree with is that much of the speculation about S89 and HR163 is just speculation. However it doesn't hurt to know that such bills are floating around because it at least tells those affected what some of their representatives are up to.

it's not over, that's very true, but it IS coming to an end. as for it being a long, hard slog, you're referring to a memo from october of 2003. that was before some pretty huge breakthroughs... i'm not sure on the numbers of the irr but i am fairly sure that it was a minority called up, and their jobs are to replace active duty soldiers so they can go to iraq. most reservists end up in japan, qatar, or bases in the us on guard duty. for marines, there is actually a waiting list to get into iraq.

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-12-2004, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
You can run to Mexico or run to Canada. Fucking cowards.

what are you guys fight for in iraq again? homeland defence?

theking · 07-12-2004, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
You can run to Mexico or run to Canada. Fucking cowards.

Odd thing - while everyone is screaming that our military is over taxed.... I don't think it is. There are some 150,000 troops in Iraq, right? The US Marine Corps - The smallest branch of our armed forces - has 400,000 (last I heard anyhow).

Do you really mean to tell me that 1/4 of the Marines would cause a shortage in military manpower? And do you think that if our forces were weak it would public information?

I think they are crying wolf. Maybe the military wants more money or something.

The Corp is currently...approximately 172,000.

creegan · 07-12-2004, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by theking
The Corp is currently...approximately 172,000.

by choice

theking · 07-12-2004, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by creegan
by choice

No...its size...just as the rest of the Military...is controlled by the DOD...and ultimately Congress.

theking · 07-12-2004, 06:17 AM

FYI...I for one favor the re-institution of the draft for multiple reasons...and was not in favor of doing away with the draft.

creegan · 07-12-2004, 06:24 AM

i served and believe in mandatory service.

i wasn't saying a bunch of marines go and vote people off the island. they are the smallest force because there is no need for them to be larger... but i'm pretty sure you're aware of that. most people don't know the difference between the marines and the army, though. seems they're always the loudest.

sacX · 07-12-2004, 06:33 AM

this is by far the best discussion of how the issue currently sits.

fact check

zanycash Pete · 07-12-2004, 07:35 AM

Hydro! don't you live in Canada??

Rochard · 07-12-2004, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
what are you guys fight for in iraq again? homeland defence?

The United States has never been invaded, with the exception of Pearl Harbor. We've always brought the battlefield to them. In WWII went brought the battle to Germany, although they never attacked us. At a certain point you need to do what is right.

Obviously the "Greatest Generation" has long come and gone.

FlyingIguana · 07-12-2004, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
finaly keyboard warriors can die for america, it's a revolution.

why do you think so many people play counterstrike? pc geeks are ready

Evil1 · 07-12-2004, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jason Fromm
What is the age limitations on the draft? I threw out my card when I turned 26...

Supposed to be 26 or 28, but i've read they want to change it to 34, but then again, if i find the right site i could read that aliens abduct people to have sex and that japanese shit eating porn is actually a healthy way to recycle food.

montel · 07-12-2004, 07:46 AM

it would be fucked up to get drafted to go to a war that was started on false evidence and should never have happened. but by 2005 there will probably be another GWB incited war to die in anyhow.

jimmyf · 07-12-2004, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I hope so. It will give some of these otherwise useless punks something else to do besides ecstasy.

I agree with you on this.

But there is ** NO ** plan, law in congress
2 bring the draft back.

so you Kids out there can quit shitting your pants and crying 2 mommy.

Myself I think they should bring it back, if not some kind of servies to the country.

We have now in the 20 to 35 age bracket a bunch of useless asswipes.

jimmyf · 07-12-2004, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by VirtuMike
Hopefully if the Dems win we won't need a draft - because we won't be at war. What a great day that would be.

Oh well, war is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

stupid

jimmyf · 07-12-2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by hydro
Agreed. If iraq was invading the us, then i wouldnt have that big of a problem with a draft. But thats not the case.

fucking lie

jimmyf · 07-12-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Evil1
Supposed to be 26 or 28, but i've read they want to change it to 34, but then again, if i find the right site i could read that aliens abduct people to have sex and that japanese shit eating porn is actually a healthy way to recycle food.

tony286 · 07-12-2004, 08:37 AM

I am telling you w gets another 4 half this board is going off to war. This will be the one time I am glad to be fat and forty lol.

tony286 · 07-12-2004, 08:47 AM

I am telling you w gets another 4 half this board is going off to war. This will be the one time I am glad to be fat and forty lol.

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creegan Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 223	never it's just propaganda from the left. first of all, our presence in the middle east is about to begin to phase out, back to normal, because of the huge UN support. second of all, there's a shitload of reservists, and active duty troops that could handle just about anything. why draft unskilled unwilling "soldiers" when you have people who are constantly training for combat situations? edit: added a couple words that my fingers forgot the first time around Last edited by creegan; 07-11-2004 at 10:02 PM..

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creegan Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 223	i served and believe in mandatory service. i wasn't saying a bunch of marines go and vote people off the island. they are the smallest force because there is no need for them to be larger... but i'm pretty sure you're aware of that. most people don't know the difference between the marines and the army, though. seems they're always the loudest.

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