Bill Cosby has more harsh words for black community

[scoreman]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/01/cos....ap/index.html

"Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it's cursing and calling each other n------ as they're walking up and down the street," Cosby said during an appearance at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund's annual conference.

"They think they're hip," the entertainer said. "They can't read; they can't write. They're laughing and giggling, and they're going nowhere."

In his remarks in May at a commemoration of the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation decision, Cosby denounced some blacks' grammar and said those who commit crimes and wind up behind bars "are not political prisoners."

"I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said then. "And then I heard the father talk ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."
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I have a new personal hero for today and it's Bill Cosby.

I think I will buy tickets to go see this guy live when he comes to South Florida in January. This guy sure has some brassy ones clanking in his pants.

[BVF]

Wow. I didn't know that you were part of the black community.

[dodint]

Really?

[galleryseek]

scroll down on the thread page, already posted.

[polish_aristocrat]

Funny thing I read the exact words from him 3 weks ago in a polish newspaper...and suddenly it is news in the US now

[scoreman]

I should just give up on posting news on gfy, there always seems to be someone faster to the punch than me.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Funny thing I read the exact words from him 3 weks ago in a polish newspaper...and suddenly it is news in the US now

This is the second time he's spoken out against the black community. The last time was a couple of months ago so if you just saw it 3 weeks ago, your papers are REALLY slow.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by scoreman
I should just give up on posting news on gfy, there always seems to be someone faster to the punch than me.

Everyone should give up posting news on GFY. Most of us read our favorite news sites so we know what's up well before it's posted on GFY.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by BVF
Wow. I didn't know that you were part of the black community.

the community he is speaking to affects every other community across thsi country. doesnt matter if he is awhite or black. these problems hurt us all, america as a whole.

i applaud his comments and agree, hopefully more black people will too.

[BVF]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
the community he is speaking to affects every other community across thsi country. doesnt matter if he is awhite or black. these problems hurt us all, america as a whole.

i applaud his comments and agree, hopefully more black people will too.

Tell me how what a negro does in the hood affects somebody like scoreman who probably lives in malibu or something like that....If I don't respond for awhile it isn't you. I'm about to go outside and hunt some bitches as soon as I take a puff off of this bowl.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by BVF
Tell me how what a negro does in the hood affects somebody like scoreman who probably lives in malibu or something like that....If I don't respond for awhile it isn't you. I'm about to go outside and hunt some bitches as soon as I take a puff off of this bowl.

I have no reason to educate you.

go smoke weed and recruit crackheads (as you call them)

[BVF]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I have no reason to educate you.

says the grasshopper to the sensei...

OK

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by BVF
says the grasshopper to the sensei...

OK

yeah yeah yeah, if you fail to see how uneducated, poverty stricken, communities do affect america as a whole you are as ignorant asd the hahahahahahas Cosby speaks of. You know it, I know it.

Call me grasshopper, it doesnt change the fact that due to felony laws what 13% of blacks cant even vote.

You think this doesnt affect your community as well as mine?

As I said, keep hunting crackheads.

Smoking weed is fine, libertarians are pro marijuana. But dont sit there and act like you are above these problems, when you are clearly not.

[scoreman]

What to me is interesting about this is that Cosby is keeping this fire stoked. He made similar comments previously and apparently its an agenda he wants to push because he keeps bringing it up despite the criticism it is bringing him. To me that man deserves respect for the fact he is willing to speak out on a cause he believes in, despite the fact it has the potential of having damage to his career.

Cosby is pushing personal responsibility and I applaud him. Do I need to be black to do so?

[Katlicious72]

My problem with these comments from Cosby and everyone is that he failed to state that not "all blacks" are this way. Just like not all whites hate black people, and all black ppl hate whites. It goes both ways. Not all blacks speak this way, and most ppl don't see it that way. I get racist comments every single day. And it's not the "in your face" racism. I don't get called a N*****. It's the backwards way of thinking. If I go to a music store, I ask a clerk for help they automatically show me the rap section or R&B. All my friends know what type of music I listen to, I'm very open minded. But I won't get off the topic that soon. As soon as ppl stop stereotypical views of each other that's when shit will be better. Education? Yes I agree some parents aren't rearing their children right, but don't peg every black person in the same category.

[EviLGuY]

Bill Cosby is great.. I respect him a lot for saying some of this.

[scamdotcom]

Bill Cosby is black?!

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by BVF
Tell me how what a negro does in the hood affects somebody like scoreman who probably lives in malibu or something like that....If I don't respond for awhile it isn't you. I'm about to go outside and hunt some bitches as soon as I take a puff off of this bowl.

Not Malibu, Miami

scoreman
Stuck with this title

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 747

[TweetyBird]

Cosby is everything but afraid of saying what he thinks, damn

[mrgica]

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by Katlicious72
My problem with these comments from Cosby and everyone is that he failed to state that not "all blacks" are this way. Just like not all whites hate black people, and all black ppl hate whites. It goes both ways. Not all blacks speak this way, and most ppl don't see it that way. I get racist comments every single day. And it's not the "in your face" racism. I don't get called a N*****. It's the backwards way of thinking. If I go to a music store, I ask a clerk for help they automatically show me the rap section or R&B. All my friends know what type of music I listen to, I'm very open minded. But I won't get off the topic that soon. As soon as ppl stop stereotypical views of each other that's when shit will be better. Education? Yes I agree some parents aren't rearing their children right, but don't peg every black person in the same category.

well, stereotypes don't arise in a vacuum.

stereotypes exist because of certain general observations by large numbers of people. stereotypes are neither bad nor good.

as long as a high % of any group are fuckups there will be negative stereotyping which will effect the innocent members of that group. positive stereotyping also exists.

stereotyping does affect business decisions. i used to run a large high end retail business that required running the credit apps of people interested in the product. there is a HUGE statistical differential in credit scoring along different racial lines.

now a wonder if anyone can score these racial groups via credit scores:

blacks, japanese, korean, arabic, filipina, anglo.

liberals might tell you the credit ratings of all these groups must be the same.

guess what, day after day, year after year, they are NOT the same.

credit ratings tell of a group's flakiness.

guess who is always at the fuckin' bottom.

this is the shit bill cosby is referring to, and there's really no way to sugarcoat it.

[latinasojourn]

and i'll give another little clue, re: credit scoring along racial lines.

whites are not the highest.

i wonder if anyone can guess which group is ALWAYS the highest.

[Katlicious72]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
well, stereotypes don't arise in a vacuum.

stereotypes exist because of certain general observations by large numbers of people. stereotypes are neither bad nor good.

as long as a high % of any group are fuckups there will be negative stereotyping which will effect the innocent members of that group. positive stereotyping also exists.

stereotyping does affect business decisions. i used to run a large high end retail business that required running the credit apps of people interested in the product. there is a HUGE statistical differential in credit scoring along different racial lines.

now a wonder if anyone can score these racial groups via credit scores:

blacks, japanese, korean, arabic, filipina, anglo.

liberals might tell you the credit ratings of all these groups must be the same.

guess what, day after day, year after year, they are NOT the same.

credit ratings tell of a group's flakiness.

guess who is always at the fuckin' bottom.

this is the shit bill cosby is referring to, and there's really no way to sugarcoat it.

YOu have a point there, but I still don't agree with it. It's a shame that society is this way, that's all I'm saying. A damn shame.

[Repetitive Monkey]

Originally posted by Katlicious72
YOu have a point there, but I still don't agree with it. It's a shame that society is this way, that's all I'm saying. A damn shame.

What? It's a shame that we have cognitive facilities with which to render warranted patterns and likelyhoods? What fucking cave-man ideology are you from then?

[Katlicious72]

Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
What? It's a shame that we have cognitive facilities with which to render warranted patterns and likelyhoods? What fucking cave-man ideology are you from then?

don't read more into it then it has to be. I don't like stereotypes, case closed. Carry on. If you have a problem with that then hit me up on icq and we can get into a more detailed conversation on it.

[Jamie]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
and i'll give another little clue, re: credit scoring along racial lines.

whites are not the highest.

i wonder if anyone can guess which group is ALWAYS the highest.

azn?

[scoreman]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
and i'll give another little clue, re: credit scoring along racial lines.

whites are not the highest.

i wonder if anyone can guess which group is ALWAYS the highest.

please tell us

[BVF]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
and i'll give another little clue, re: credit scoring along racial lines.

whites are not the highest.

i wonder if anyone can guess which group is ALWAYS the highest.

And which group of people along racial and gender lines are ALWAYS the highest amongst hardcore pedophiles and sexual predators who kidnap, rape, and kill children?

Which group of people are ALWAYS the highest when it comes to serial killing?

So if you want to get technical about statistics proving the flakiness of any particular race then use that.

I just finished watching a snippet of bills speech on cnn..and he said that he doesn't care what white people think about him right now...And if white people want to use what he says and use it to talk about his people then what's the difference between what their grandfathers were saying? What is the difference from what their grandfathers were trying to do to our people? But we have to start focusing on what we're doing for ourself...He just said it...and it is emphasized by your BULLSHIT stats about credit ratings and their correlations with the "flakiness" of certain races...

[BVF]

Originally posted by BVF
And which group of people along racial and gender lines are ALWAYS the highest amongst hardcore pedophiles and sexual predators who kidnap, rape, and kill children?

Which group of people are ALWAYS the highest when it comes to serial killing?

So if you want to get technical about statistics proving the flakiness of any particular race then use that.

I just finished watching a snippet of bills speech on cnn..and he said that he doesn't care what white people think about him right now...And if white people want to use what he says and use it to talk about his people then what's the difference between what their grandfathers were saying? What is the difference from what their grandfathers were trying to do to our people? But we have to start focusing on what we're doing for ourself...He just said it...and it is emphasized by your BULLSHIT stats about credit ratings and their correlations with the "flakiness" of certain races...

And don't even think that I don't agree with bill 100% because I was saying the SAME SHIT on my blog awhile ago.

http://www.mrnogood.com/general/05_1...ownvsboard.htm

[GonePhishing]

Wow, that was some pretty strong rhetoric that Cosby was putting out there. I think if what he says inspires a small portion of any community to really excel at learning, it's a good thing.

[BVF]

Originally posted by Gabriel
Not Malibu, Miami

scoreman
Stuck with this title

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 747

which is why I said

Originally posted by BVF
who probably lives in malibu or something like that....

[M_M]

Originally posted by Katlicious72
My problem with these comments from Cosby and everyone is that he failed to state that not "all blacks" are this way. Just like not all whites hate black people, and all black ppl hate whites. It goes both ways. Not all blacks speak this way, and most ppl don't see it that way. I get racist comments every single day. And it's not the "in your face" racism. I don't get called a N*****. It's the backwards way of thinking. If I go to a music store, I ask a clerk for help they automatically show me the rap section or R&B. All my friends know what type of music I listen to, I'm very open minded. But I won't get off the topic that soon. As soon as ppl stop stereotypical views of each other that's when shit will be better. Education? Yes I agree some parents aren't rearing their children right, but don't peg every black person in the same category.

Is it hard to see that he doesn't mean the things he says to the blacks that do have their shit together? Why does that have to be stated, it's common sense.

[Repetitive Monkey]

Originally posted by BVF
And which group of people along racial and gender lines are ALWAYS the highest amongst hardcore pedophiles and sexual predators who kidnap, rape, and kill children?

If you are referring to proportionality, Jews, or perhaps real Africans (traditions and customs, "AIDS cure," and whatnot). Otherwise, Whites.

Originally posted by BVF
Which group of people are ALWAYS the highest when it comes to serial killing?

Whichever group is clever enough to pull it off. It takes a lot to escape the tools and methods of modern criminal investigation, you know. What do you think that says for your own group of people? I am not going to elaborate since you bringing that particular subject up as a way to make Blacks look good already says a lot.

[fuzebox]

The best part is the picture... Jesse Jackson looks like he's about to explode!

[scoreman]

I did actually live in a 1965 Malibu for some time during a college roadtrip. Looked alot like this:

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by scoreman
please tell us

japanese americans, always highest year after year.

solid gold credit.

[scoreman]

<-----Japanese American

[waits for BVF to tell me about my ivory tower]

[scoreman]

Originally posted by BVF
And don't even think that I don't agree with bill 100% because I was saying the SAME SHIT on my blog awhile ago.

http://www.mrnogood.com/general/05_1...ownvsboard.htm

"Don't blame the white man for the fuckups in the education system folks because it's OUR problem...The same ignorant muthafuckas that I went to school with grew into adults and they raised their own kids in the same cycle of ignorance where academic achievement is ridiculed and the ability to spend the little chump change that their parents make on new shoes and clothes and hair that they don't need....Why spend so much money trying to look "good" for school WHEN YOU'RE NOT LEARNING SHIT? Those girls come out of school looking like they went to the night club but they don't have even one book in their hand while walking home. All they have are their cell phones.

I hope us niggas actually gets our equivalent of the forty acres and a mule that blacks were promised at the end of slavery...forty acres worth of land with appreciated value would mean several thousands of dollars to each and every black person in America...Then after that, we can STOP BITCHING!...I wouldn't have to hear Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or anybody else on television whining about how blacks are treated so badly by society....But if we did get that money, would shit improve for us? Hell No!....

If a nigga got a hold of that money, would there be a lot of new business created to employ our own people? Nope.....Every new Cadillac in America would be bought right off the lot...Every sneaker would be purchased from Foot Locker....Every gold and platinum scrap and diamond left in the world would go into niggas mouths and ears and wrists, and around their necks....Every Marijuana plant from Canada to Guatamala would be picked...The Colombians would be scratching their heads in amazement because they wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand of Crack...They'd be like "¡Tamale caliente santo Jose! ¡Los negros desean más y más cocaína".

And then what would happen after we smoked and drank all of that money up, we'd be right back to bitchin about how the white man won't hire us.....Sad.....
"
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I would have loved to hear Bill Cosby say it this way.

[dig420]

Originally posted by fuzebox
The best part is the picture... Jesse Jackson looks like he's about to explode!

JJ agreed with Cosby, and I don't think Cosby is being anti-black. He's just telling his own people that they have their priorities wrong, he's being pro-black by trying to fix the problems he sees.

[Lykos]

Originally posted by dodint
Really?

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by scoreman
"Don't blame the white man for the fuckups in the education system folks because it's OUR problem...The same ignorant muthafuckas that I went to school with grew into adults and they raised their own kids in the same cycle of ignorance where academic achievement is ridiculed and the ability to spend the little chump change that their parents make on new shoes and clothes and hair that they don't need....Why spend so much money trying to look "good" for school WHEN YOU'RE NOT LEARNING SHIT? Those girls come out of school looking like they went to the night club but they don't have even one book in their hand while walking home. All they have are their cell phones.

I hope us niggas actually gets our equivalent of the forty acres and a mule that blacks were promised at the end of slavery...forty acres worth of land with appreciated value would mean several thousands of dollars to each and every black person in America...Then after that, we can STOP BITCHING!...I wouldn't have to hear Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or anybody else on television whining about how blacks are treated so badly by society....But if we did get that money, would shit improve for us? Hell No!....

If a nigga got a hold of that money, would there be a lot of new business created to employ our own people? Nope.....Every new Cadillac in America would be bought right off the lot...Every sneaker would be purchased from Foot Locker....Every gold and platinum scrap and diamond left in the world would go into niggas mouths and ears and wrists, and around their necks....Every Marijuana plant from Canada to Guatamala would be picked...The Colombians would be scratching their heads in amazement because they wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand of Crack...They'd be like "¡Tamale caliente santo Jose! ¡Los negros desean más y más cocaína".

And then what would happen after we smoked and drank all of that money up, we'd be right back to bitchin about how the white man won't hire us.....Sad.....
"
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I would have loved to hear Bill Cosby say it this way.

brutal, but all true.

and one thing people should realize, just because you understand this to be true doesn't mean you despise any race or ethnic group. fuckups come in all colors and races.

it's just that in american society you can't tell the truth sometimes.

and like other's have said here, my respect for bill cosby just went up about 1000%.

i can't remember now. who shot bill cosby's son in LA some years ago? i wonder about the race of the perpetrator and if that is factoring into cosby's new attitude.

[Hank_Heartland]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
brutal, but all true.

and one thing people should realize, just because you understand this to be true doesn't mean you despise any race or ethnic group. fuckups come in all colors and races.

it's just that in american society you can't tell the truth sometimes.

and like other's have said here, my respect for bill cosby just went up about 1000%.

i can't remember now. who shot bill cosby's son in LA some years ago? i wonder about the race of the perpetrator and if that is factoring into cosby's new attitude.

A Black Panther once hit the nail on the head when Eldredge Cleaver said 'If you're not part of the solution...You're part of the problem'

My problem with what Bill C said and all that people are saying here it that we perpetuate the problem...We don't come up with solutions and for most of us we don't want solutions or we would be fixing the shit.

So this discussion is all bullshit and what Cosby said is all bullshit...NOBODY has the balls to fix anything

Just keep the shit flying

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
A Black Panther once hit the nail on the head when Eldredge Cleaver said 'If you're not part of the solution...You're part of the problem'

My problem with what Bill C said and all that people are saying here it that we perpetuate the problem...We don't come up with solutions and for most of us we don't want solutions or we would be fixing the shit.

So this discussion is all bullshit and what Cosby said is all bullshit...NOBODY has the balls to fix anything

Just keep the shit flying

i think the whole point Bill Cosby and many are making is:

solution = personal responsibility

not sure, but i think Eldredge Cleaver is no longer alive, as i recall he was killed by a black guy in a street holdup in East Oakland, Ca.

someone may correct me on this.

[Khun]

Originally posted by scoreman
I did actually live in a 1965 Malibu for some time during a college roadtrip. Looked alot like this:

Lol!

[Tofu]

Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
A Black Panther once hit the nail on the head when Eldredge Cleaver said 'If you're not part of the solution...You're part of the problem'

My problem with what Bill C said and all that people are saying here it that we perpetuate the problem...We don't come up with solutions and for most of us we don't want solutions or we would be fixing the shit.

So this discussion is all bullshit and what Cosby said is all bullshit...NOBODY has the balls to fix anything

Just keep the shit flying

wordup.

[MikeHawk]

Go Bill!

[Drake]

Originally posted by dig420
JJ agreed with Cosby, and I don't think Cosby is being anti-black. He's just telling his own people that they have their priorities wrong, he's being pro-black by trying to fix the problems he sees.

I agree. Bill is trying to alleviate a problem he sees as directly and honestly as he can. No political correctness, no gimmicks, no rhetoric. I don't know how his statements can interpreted as anything other than ultra pro-black.

[Pleasurepays]

people talk as if there was a "politically correct" way to make a solid point about race and culture without being targeted as being racist... or a way to do it without offending.

of course he has to be target as racist. where do you think Jesse Jackson... Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and countless other black leaders get their power from? from the idea that things have never been worse.. the idea that racism has never been worse... the idea that black people have never been more oppressed. etc etc etc. you don't believe that? Louis Farrakhan made the exact comment at the million man march... "racism has never been worse in America" - I about fell out of my fucking chair when he said that on live TV.

when a popular (and accomplished) black person says "shut up dumbass, ebonics is not a language - grow up and get your shit together", it is a direct threat to the powerbase of black leaders who depend on racism to make a living and to exist.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by Katlicious72
I get racist comments every single day. And it's not the "in your face" racism. I don't get called a N*****. It's the backwards way of thinking. If I go to a music store, I ask a clerk for help they automatically show me the rap section or R&B.

boo fucking hoo! give me a break. if an idiot wearing a rodeo belt buckle, a cowboy hat and rattlesnake boots had a question and they immediately assumed he wanted country music... would that be unreasonable?

you're pathetic.

[MandyBlake]

Originally posted by Mike33
I agree. Bill is trying to alleviate a problem he sees as directly and honestly as he can. No political correctness, no gimmicks, no rhetoric. I don't know how his statements can interpreted as anything other than ultra pro-black.

I agree 100%