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Old 07-01-2004, 05:44 AM   #1
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Saddam in court: 'The real criminal is Bush'

...and probably 30% of world population agrees with him

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Old 07-01-2004, 05:49 AM   #2
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he should say: bush is a criminal too...


Burn in Hell Saddam
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What did you expect him to say? That's like the pot calling the kettle black.
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he's still calling himself "president of iraq"

the US soldiers slapped him too often i think.. he's braindamaged
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Fuck Saddam.
Eat shit and die
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who really cares what he has to say at this point
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He is being allowed to talk?
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this is what sucks most
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well its like we didnt see this coming. He was the ruler, who was attacked and thrown out of power and without his approval someone else is in charge. Any and all dictators are going to state that it was unfair and wrong.

He sees himself as the victim - and he will continue to think that right up until he gets his head whacked off. Perhaps now iraq can put on TV to the terrorists a statement like:

"turn Bin Laden in 3 days or Saddam gets his head chopped off"

that way they get a piece of their own cake for a change.
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Bush is pretty bad but in a differenet kinda way and Saddam should still fry
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i think he will be allowed to say something, but i really dont know.
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Saddam is the Devil in the Flesh. Too bad they dont have a Death Penalty over there.....hopefully they'll were willing to make an exception.

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All this hate for Saddam please tell me three things he did to the American people I'm curious? Dont bring up the gassing of the kurds because our government was still behind him while that was happening. The picture everyone sees of Rumsfield shaking his hand that wasnt too long after the gassing happened.
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...and probably 30% of world population agrees with him

Full CNN story
Iraq would be a much better place if he was allowed to go back to killing, torturing, gassing and raping his own people. They definately should have at least kept the infant mortality rates for children under 5 at the same 10-15% levels as it had been under Saddam.

Dammit! that whole place is in the shitter now!


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...and probably 30% of world population agrees with him

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So I guess this means that you and yours support the rape, torture and beheading of women.

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Was he a madman or is that the only way to keep the animals in order? Alot less bullshit happened on his watch.
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Was he a madman or is that the only way to keep the animals in order? Alot less bullshit happened on his watch.
extensive and brutal secret police, torture, rape, executions, machine gunning crowds and gassing entire villiages of men, women and children tends to have that effect.
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Saddam is the Devil in the Flesh. Too bad they dont have a Death Penalty over there.....hopefully they'll were willing to make an exception.

The new gov't reinstated the death penalty as one of the first acts.
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I wonder how many high ranking US government officials will be called by his defence as witnesses?

Start with the US ambassador who blessed his invasion of Kuwait....
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In another exchange, the former dictator said no one had the authority to strip him of his title of president if he is being accused of committing the crimes while he was in office. "I'm elected by the people of Iraq. The occupation cannot take that right away from me," he said
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extensive and brutal secret police, torture, rape, executions, machine gunning crowds and gassing entire villiages of men, women and children tends to have that effect.
They leave out a little part of the gassing story during the gulf war . Bush the first told the kurds to rise up against your leader ,we will help you. They rose up and we didnt help them. Also seems lately we have been doing a nice amount of torture and rape in Iraqi jails . Where up to 90% of those held are innocent according to the red cross. Here is the question once again.

If he was such a monster why didnt they rise up and have revolution? This is what people with nothing to lose do. People say because they were afraid of Saddam. THey were afraid of Saddam but not of the most powerful army in the world makes no sense.

I am sorry the just because the news said it its true doesnt work for me anymore. Also why did the American government support such a monster if they knew all these terrible things he did for all those years.

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They leave out a little part of the gassing story during the gulf war . Bush the first told the kurds to rise up against your leader ,we will help you. They rose up and we didnt help them. Also seems lately we have been doing a nice amount of torture and rape in Iraqi jails . Where up to 90% of those held are innocent according to the red cross. Here is the question once again.

If he was such a monster why didnt they rise up and have revolution? This is what people with nothing to lose do. People say because they were afraid of Saddam. THey were afraid of Saddam but not of the most powerful army in the world makes no sense.

I am sorry the just because the news said it its true doesnt work for me anymore. Also why did the American government support such a monster if they knew all these terrible things he did for all those years.
Very valid point indeed. Personally, I don't think it was our responsibility to go in there and free ANYONE. Fuck those people. If they were too afraid to rise up against their government (Like 95% of america is now) then they got what they got. I don't give a fuck if they gassed, burned, shot, exploded, hanged, beheaded, raped or chopped each other to little bits. We need to stop being world policemen and worry about our own shit.
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Also why did the American government support such a monster if they knew all these terrible things he did for all those years.
because it was in the US interest to support such a monster at that time.

what is so hard for you to understand that about politics?

why did France support Saddam? ... or other countries at the time, because it was in their interests as well for whatever reason.

get over it. i hate when people act as if hypocrisy in politics and international policy is something new and only one country is hypocritical in their behavior. every country doing global business, that has global poitical and economic interests is THE SAME!

shouldn't you be stopping the genocide in Sudan right now? what are you doing here.

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How convenient , I guess Saddam will really get a fair trial
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It is my understanding that they are still working on the matter...and it is unresolved at this time.
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How convenient , I guess Saddam will really get a fair trial
I doubt it, he was not even allowed to have his lawyer present for the hearing.

As people are saying what does it have to do with America how he acted? A few years ago Americans were being strung up from trees based on their colour. Even war veterans who could die next to a white man fighting a white mans war, could not have a cup of coffee with him in a cafe.

And as for supporting regimes that cut off womens heads, please let's not bring into this argument Saudia Arabia.

Bush for some reason got it into his head to invade Iraq, subsequent events are proving how much a mistake that was. Name me one GOOD thing that came out of the invasion?

And Saddam was widley loved by a lot of his people, because he was better than the guy before him. Iraq is not Oklahoma and stop thinking it is. It's a backward third world nationthat is berely out of the middle ages.
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Has everyone here forgotten what Iraq did to Kuwait?

Anyone remember?
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And Saddam was widley loved by a lot of his people, because he was better than the guy before him.


you could feel the love when they were celebrating in the streets, spitting on his posters, pissing on his statues and riding his head down mainstreet.
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They leave out a little part of the gassing story during the gulf war . Bush the first told the kurds to rise up against your leader ,we will help you. They rose up and we didnt help them. Also seems lately we have been doing a nice amount of torture and rape in Iraqi jails . Where up to 90% of those held are innocent according to the red cross. Here is the question once again.

I am sorry the just because the news said it its true doesnt work for me anymore. Also why did the American government support such a monster if they knew all these terrible things he did for all those years.
Thank you for instilling a little sanity into this thread.

Also, Kurds are not Saddam's "people". Here's a brief history of the Kurds . The Kurds have been perceived as a thorn in the side of the Iraqis for some time. Turkey, an American ally and therefore exempt from any charges of atrocities it seems, have repeatedly "surpressed" the Kurds in their own country.

Saddam is evil because . . . ? Learn to think independently of what the Nightly News tells you to think. (Which is not to suggest that Saddam is a saint. Only that his "crimes" are no greater and no less than many others including our own esteemed leaders.
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All this hate for Saddam please tell me three things he did to the American people I'm curious? Dont bring up the gassing of the kurds because our government was still behind him while that was happening. The picture everyone sees of Rumsfield shaking his hand that wasnt too long after the gassing happened.
He attacked our allie, Kuwait.

He was launching missles at our allie, Israel.

Shot at our planes when a no fly zone was established.

Denied weapons inspectors regulaly.

I think these directly affected us.

Saddam came to power by forming a coupe, going into the Iraqi senate and reading a list of names. Anyone on that list was then lead outside and shot. Lets not forget about the stories of acid baths etc..
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and gas prices were cheaper
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it amuses me how so many americans are interested in iraq etc. I dont know why, so iraq attacks your allies SO WHAT, its up to them to fight their own battles not up to the US taxpayer to fund imperial excursions and occupy a nation

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Saddam came to power by forming a coupe, going into the Iraqi senate and reading a list of names. Anyone on that list was then lead outside and shot. Lets not forget about the stories of acid baths etc..
uhhuh the CIA supported his coup by the way

how about americans take back control of their government and put the CIA out of business

Saddam was a CIA asset and hitman in the 1950's, this is a fact

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=...0-070214-6557r

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just curious, did saddam actually break any laws? up until this point im not aware of a single one that hes broken.

its also a shame that GWB isnt held accountable for the numerous laws and treaties that he has broken, i guess its just about who has the most power
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it amuses me how so many americans are interested in iraq etc. I dont know why, so iraq attacks your allies SO WHAT, its up to them to fight their own battles not up to the US taxpayer to fund imperial excursions and occupy a nation
Do you know what the word "allies" actually means?
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just curious, did saddam actually break any laws? up until this point im not aware of a single one that hes broken.

its also a shame that GWB isnt held accountable for the numerous laws and treaties that he has broken, i guess its just about who has the most power
could a more clueless statement ever be uttered?

Thank god this isn't where he does business.
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uhhuh the CIA supported his coup by the way
so?

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how about americans take back control of their government and put the CIA out of business
imagining that this thought is shared by other Americans is silly

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He attacked our allie, Kuwait.

He was launching missles at our allie, Israel.

Shot at our planes when a no fly zone was established.

Denied weapons inspectors regulaly.

I think these directly affected us.

Saddam came to power by forming a coupe, going into the Iraqi senate and reading a list of names. Anyone on that list was then lead outside and shot. Lets not forget about the stories of acid baths etc..
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:31 AM   #46
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:35 AM   #47
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I wonder how many high ranking US government officials will be called by his defence as witnesses?

Start with the US ambassador who blessed his invasion of Kuwait....
So you think a statement by a low-mid ranking official like an ambassador who says that the US has "no opinion" regarding Arab-Arab conflicts is tantamount to "If you invade any of your neighbors we'll look the other way?" Is that a "blessing"?
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:40 AM   #48
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it amuses me how so many americans are interested in iraq etc. I dont know why, so iraq attacks your allies SO WHAT, its up to them to fight their own battles not up to the US taxpayer to fund imperial excursions and occupy a nation
It doubly amuses me how many non-Americans are interested in America. By your logic, mind your own business.
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:42 AM   #49
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It doubly amuses me how many non-Americans are interested in America. By your logic, mind your own business.
Well, nobody invaded America ... It is " discussion" interested... VS military and occupation interested....
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:44 AM   #50
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Has everyone here forgotten what Iraq did to Kuwait?

Anyone remember?
Oh yeah, Saddam informed our government that he was going to kick the crap out of Kuwait and then our ambassador to Iraq gave him the go ahead.
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