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Old 06-28-2004, 02:45 AM   #1
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Nasty Dollars Has Bad Rep

http://www.bbbsoutheastflorida.org/n...00 0034000083

I was just curious and wanted to see if Nasty Dollars was listed with the BBB, and it came up to my surprise! Also to my surprise they had a bad record with them. I wanted to find out to see if anybody has any horror stories or shaving "suspicions" about them. Thanks!


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Old 06-28-2004, 02:53 AM   #2
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you wont find any adult company with that volume of transactions having a positive BBB listing :-)
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:00 AM   #3
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Well, I checked em out and they passed the shaving test. They even encouraged me to try it again at a later date. I did so 4 months later. They passed again and I used a CC from a friend in another state so they couldn't flag shit.

In November 2003 they sent me a check. It was only for $25. I forgot to cash it and brought it to their attention. They sent me a new one by next day Fedex. I said, naw, not needed, it was only $25 and they said, "Bullshit, you have been sending us traffic ever since we sent you that first check and its the least we can do."

Then when I moved I had shit sent to a PO BOX but forgot to tell them. They sent out the checks and mine got returned to sender. They tracked me down to my new address and sent it back out to me... guess how? Next day air again. Happened so fast I didn't even realize anything was amiss...

In my humble opinion, They kick ass! Anyone who tells you different, tell them to hate the game, not the player.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:00 AM   #4
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Thanks Soul Rebel, point well taken!
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:03 AM   #5
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Nasty Dollars makes some of the most popular sites out there with great conversions so I'm not so sure how much you can trust a simple BBB rating over what other experienced webmasters say about them.

Anyway, the BBB is known for giving good ratings to companies that are pretty much based around scamming others (MLM, network marketing, etc.). I did some research on them a while ago, and the amount of dirt that's out there on some BBB offices is staggering.

this should keep you busy for a little while:
http://www.edu-usa.com/ocr_news.html
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:05 AM   #6
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ND ROCKS !!
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:05 AM   #7
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Who has a positive BBB? Nobody unless you pay them fucks off!
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:06 AM   #8
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V_Rocks,

Thanks for the reply, yeah I never suspected them myself, but this is the adult biz, any sign of negative PR, I'm gonna think twice about promoting them, I work 15 hour days, and put in alot of hours on the weekend too. So if they're gonna shave, they should know that I "hull ass" for this biz. Take Care and thanks for the reply again!

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Old 06-28-2004, 03:08 AM   #9
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Who has a positive BBB? Nobody unless you pay them fucks off!
Yeah i realize that, this is freakin PORN, I tried to look for other sponsors, but that bad BBB reports gets you curious though.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:10 AM   #10
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Nasty Dollars makes some of the most popular sites out there with great conversions so I'm not so sure how much you can trust a simple BBB rating over what other experienced webmasters say about them.

Anyway, the BBB is known for giving good ratings to companies that are pretty much based around scamming others (MLM, network marketing, etc.). I did some research on them a while ago, and the amount of dirt that's out there on some BBB offices is staggering.

this should keep you busy for a little while:
http://www.edu-usa.com/ocr_news.html
Great link, I will check out that article, yeah government agencies tend to mislead sometimes instead of giving the consumer or businesses hints about the ethics of a certain company!
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:12 AM   #11
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ND rocks.... so do their sites
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:13 AM   #12
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Originally posted by TeddyRacer1
http://www.bbbsoutheastflorida.org/n...00 0034000083

I was just curious and wanted to see if Nasty Dollars was listed with the BBB, and it came up to my surprise! Also to my surprise they had a bad record with them. I wanted to find out to see if anybody has any horror stories or shaving "suspicions" about them. Thanks!


Regards,

Teddy
I would NEVER trust the BBB for anything. To be listed with the BBB, you have to pay them a yearly fee. If you do not pay them this fee, then they will say that you refused to comply with their disclosure (which comes with the yearly fee), and are therefore always listed as suspect.

In the terms listed on the page you linked:
" If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report." Therefore, they are not BBB members, they are listed only because they exist, were asked by the BBB to pay the yearly fee and disclose private financial data, and they didn't do so.
Funny how that BBB report makes them sound like criminals because they didn't want to pay the BBB cash every year to NOT get a bad listing, eh?

The BBB is a racket, nothing more. You pay yearly to get a good listing, and if you don't pay them yearly, they make it sound like you're not an honest business.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:14 AM   #13
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slavdogg, thewildcard,

yeah ND's one of the best sponsors I've dealt with.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:15 AM   #14
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I believe that an adult company with a bad rep from the BBB would be due to customer complaints rather than webmaster complaints.

To be totally honest, this is probably not due to actual poor customer service but the scamming, freeloading porn surfer. They whip out their credit card in the heat of the moment and then 20 minutes later forget all about their membership until their credit card comes in. They honestly feel that all funds should be returned. I'm not just talking trials that turned into a monthly membership fee, I am talking some people cancel within the trial period but they still want their trial fee back cause "I was only on the site about 20 minutes" No joke, you would not believe the lengths some people will go to, to get $1 lousy buck back.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:15 AM   #15
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what's bbb?
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:17 AM   #16
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ND is #1 , I wish they had a bad rep.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:17 AM   #17
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Baal,

Yeah, I will consider that when i think about not listing with the BBB, they are crooks sometimes in the government, look @ George W. lol.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:18 AM   #18
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what's bbb?
BBB=Better Business Bureau
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:18 AM   #19
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what's bbb?
Better Business Bureau, they track customer complaints about companies to give you an idea of their track record. Not foolproof though as illustrated here.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:19 AM   #20
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ND is #1 , I wish they had a bad rep.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:22 AM   #21
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well they push alot of transaction, maybe a small glitch or something. But nastydollars is one of the most stable progrmas around on the net for affiliates
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:22 AM   #22
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I believe that an adult company with a bad rep from the BBB would be due to customer complaints rather than webmaster complaints.

To be totally honest, this is probably not due to actual poor customer service but the scamming, freeloading porn surfer. They whip out their credit card in the heat of the moment and then 20 minutes later forget all about their membership until their credit card comes in. They honestly feel that all funds should be returned. I'm not just talking trials that turned into a monthly membership fee, I am talking some people cancel within the trial period but they still want their trial fee back cause "I was only on the site about 20 minutes" No joke, you would not believe the lengths some people will go to, to get $1 lousy buck back.


Yeah, tell me about it, I use to work for B of A and you get people calling in and saying they never ordered that online porn, and you ask them if they've ever given their CC for age verification, and oops, that's when they're too embarassed to admit they've viewed porn, and still continue to argue that the charge is wrong.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:24 AM   #23
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what's bbb?
The "Better Business Bureau". It's a U.S. company that makes you either pay yearly dues (and follow a few private financial disclosure rules), or else they'll imply that you're a scammer.

In other words, regardless of whether you run an honest business or a scam business, if you don't pay their yearly fees, they'll make you look like a dishonest company. Pay the fees, and they'll make you seem like an honest business.

It's like Acacia for mainstream businesses, in a broad sense.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:25 AM   #24
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Shooter,

Good definition, I thought everyone's heard of the BBB.


strobi,

could be, ND is one of largest affiliate program on the net, i think they probably have millions of transactions per year.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:39 AM   #25
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The "Better Business Bureau". It's a U.S. company that makes you either pay yearly dues (and follow a few private financial disclosure rules), or else they'll imply that you're a scammer.

In other words, regardless of whether you run an honest business or a scam business, if you don't pay their yearly fees, they'll make you look like a dishonest company. Pay the fees, and they'll make you seem like an honest business.

It's like Acacia for mainstream businesses, in a broad sense.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:42 AM   #26
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:46 AM   #27
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ncash?
dude don't spam my thread

alright, thanks for all the replies, this tired webmaster is logging off, good one all!
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:19 AM   #28
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http://www.bbbsoutheastflorida.org/n...00 0034000083

I was just curious and wanted to see if Nasty Dollars was listed with the BBB, and it came up to my surprise! Also to my surprise they had a bad record with them. I wanted to find out to see if anybody has any horror stories or shaving "suspicions" about them. Thanks!


Regards,

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I am sure they cry themselves to sleep each night on their fat mattresses stuffed with hundreds. :D
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:55 AM   #29
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I am sure they cry themselves to sleep each night on their fat mattresses stuffed with hundreds. :D
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