cluck

Prepare for bloodshed, I'm going to have more testosterone than you can shake a bloody slab of meat at. Full out guido status, here I come.

First sign of testicular shrinkage though, I'm ending the cycle and starting the anti-gyno drugs.

Who's been on the juice before?

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drugs are bad

cluck

Yeah, but hell. I need to gain weight. I'm 120lbs but I'm healthy as anything and stronger than most average weight people. The problem is I never really bulk up when I work out, I just gain strength and tone like crazy.

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HAHAHHA your testicles will shrivel up !!!!

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tical

make sure you've got your nutrition / diet mapped out so that you get the most out of your 'cycle'

SuckOnThis

From Lyle Alzado:

"I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped," he admitted during his pain-racked final days. "It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety per cent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300lbs or jump 30ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way". Lyle Alzado was 42 when he died of brain cancer.
Cause of death: Brain cancer brought on by excessive steroid use

tical

excessive anything isn't good

beemk

i wouldnt do it if i was you. try weight gainer shakes. i was 130 back in high school and i'm 160 now. my body fat is really low too.

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VIPimp

You dont need to do roids.... this is what you need

beemk

oh yeah, taking steraroids isnt exactly going to just make you gain weight. you need extra calories to gain weight.

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Fred Zeppelin

"ROIDS"?

I thought you were going to discuss "HEMORROIDS"


A topic worthy of GFY

DarkJedi

morons only.

Diligent

Dude... Friendly and working advice:

START INCORPORATING RAPE SEED / OLIVE OIL IN YOUR DIET!!!

The problem guys like us have, is a metabolism that burns more calories
than what is good for bulking up...

Sure, we can bulk up on shitloads of carbs too, but we'd have to eat like horses.
Fats are very dense on calories and easy to apply in most meals, try in sauces..

You won't become a "lardass" simply by eating fats, only if You don't burn the
calories... and Your metabolism will.

Also, these two oils are actually beneficial on several more levels:
* They increase Your natural Testosterone-levels...
* They consist of mostly unsaturated fats; actually GOOD for You!
* They lower the glycemic index in meals
* They have antioxidant features; anti-cancerogenic

SO... increase Your calorie-intake this way and You WILL bulk up
on muscle without having to resort to the juice.

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beemk

what the hell is rape seed? olive oil is good because it has little/none saturated fat. i read an article about flax seed oild too but never got around to trying it.

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Diligent

I know, "rape seed" is a fucked up name for it
I don't know how to describe what it is, but flax seed is similar, and just as good.
Studies have shown that rape seed oil is probably even better than olive oil,
contrary to previous beliefs.

But basically, any of these oils are generally good since they're vegetabilic.
Vegetabilic fats are rarely saturated.
The fats that are damaging in the long run, are animalic ones as a rule of thumb.
Fat in fish is great though, it's just not economic to fill up on calories from shitloads of macerel though.

Vegetabilic oils is the way to go!

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Major (Tom)

Anti gyno drugs will help little to prevent testi shrinkage. You would need clomid for that. It all depends on what kind of juice you have. If you have test, then ball shrinkage and hair loss will be a concern. if you have deca or equipoise you wont have to worry about ball shrinkage or hair loss but you wont put on as much size. It all depends on the results you're after.
cheers
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BlueQuartz

hey dont take this personally but taking steroids is fucking insane


do some research first ffs


but then again if you so shallow that ruining your major organs, shrinking your cock and turning into a psycho nutcase are worth it because youve got some 20inch bi's to flex then start shooting em right now! dont wait another minute!!

Major (Tom)

FYI your cock doesnt shrink on juice. It actually gets bigger. It's your testicles that shrink.
Duke

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If your interested in info on juice there are a few good sites like anabolics.com and the magazine muscular development You also can hit me up on icq later in the day for questions I used to be a competitive bodybuilder. Good luck

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Arousal Design

dont ruin your body dude.

try to do it au natural, or just live with the fact that you're 120lbs of healthy human being. there's worst things to be in the world.

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evl4fun

Man, don't do it. TRy some of the natural methods suggested here first. I've never heard of any good results of steroid use. Not olny that, but most of the gains you make while using them, will go away after you stop. It's way better to build yourself up naturally, the muscle size, and tone will last much much longer.
But hey, your gonna do what your gonna do.

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EscortBiz

Something?s in bodybuilding are an illusion, I agree the cock doesn?t get smaller but when your whole body gets bigger your cock will look smaller.

Its like a small waist will make you look wider and a tan will make you look cut up and the less hair the bigger you look.

As far as roids go well I live in NY and like Jersey its popular here in the gym, I can easily say most guys taking it don?t get in any better shape, yes they all bloat and shit but they looked better without the fat face and bloated look.

I did several cycles and thank god I had an open minded doctor who based on my blood results and regular test levels and age etc told me how much and what AMERICAN made roids to use. He didn?t get them for me but at least his advice and research and ongoing liver value tests etc. helped.

I am done with cycles and because I didn?t do cycles that are d-bol or anadrol or other popular oral steroids that gains are mostly water I am able to keep those gains plus because I did a separate bulking and cutting cycle I am cut not just one big balloon.

A few major problems I find with people taking roids.

A) No research - they get all their info from the gym dealer, and guess what the dealer pushes whatever he gets a good deal on, most likely the following 3 Winny, D-bol, Sust 250 (you are guaranteed to outbreak and lose hair on this pros never use sust! for test)

B) Steroids will help you grow more muscle but the idea of steroids is to give you more strength so you can lift more break more muscle tissue and grow, nothing replaces working out hard! In the movie "the unbelievable" Ronnie Coleman (current Mr. O.) says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to life heavy ass weights!"

C) Diet, to grow you need to eat, steroids or working out hard will mean little if you do not eat, you need to intake real protein not just shakes, real carbs lots of calories etc.

D) Post cycle recovery is important, the fact is many dealers push something called "Novladex" anyone who does research knows this doesn?t do shit to lower estrogen levels or anything to recover from a cycle. Lots of drug became popular because dealers got a good deal on it and start pushing it, Clomid is what pros use and anyone who has a doctor who has no interest in bullshitting will tell you the same.

E) Remember tons of roids being sold in gym are counterfeit, a big long island dealer was recently busted and over 50% of his shit was fake.

My cycles where:

Test Cyp.
Deca
(mixed in a single syringe it makes the injection less painful)

When I cut all I used was Anavar aka Oxandrolone

Always used clomid last 2 weeks of a cycle + 4 weeks after.

Also took the vit. pack daily by ISS link below (still take that)

And Milk Thistle

I worked out hard way before I started taking any roids and anyone considering it should do the same.

Also I came across a natural Diuretic that works wonders it?s called xpell, I lost about 2 inches on my waist in about 2 months. Diuretics is a known style of drug that reduces water retention in the body making you way more cut, the pill prescribed version is extremely dangerous but this natural stuff works wonders too.

Here are some links for you to checkout


Tom Platz interviews 6 pros about steroids
http://store.yahoo.com/homegym/noname2.html

The story about the long island drug busts recently
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...story?coll=ny-

If you order stuff online or even buy in a gym get them tested to find out what you are putting in your body.
http://www.aegislabs.com

ISS all in one Vit. pack, fish oil tablets etc. (its cheap too)
http://www.issresearch.com/products/p_vitpak.html

Also last night there was a show on fox about steroids (really overdone) but like one expert (not a juicer but a doctor) said "people use steroids because they work"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122961,00.html

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Shemales on roids?

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there not good for you dude

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kmanrox

close... shemales and roids are in my life.

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evildick

Worst...idea...ever.

Are heart attacks, liver damage and pea sized testicles worth it?

Pleasurepays

there is a big difference between "steroid use" and "steroid ABUSE"

brand0n

not smart man. dont do it

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PLEASE DONT DO IT....I dont even know you, but I worked in the health club/fitness industry for a few years, and I have seen WAY too many attractive/healthy people go totally downhill from being on juice. PLEASE, stay off that shit. I am sure you are an attractive person already, just work hard, eat properly and you will look bigger in no time. Don't damage your body like that.

lilj

True i do agree , I only smoke weed like 2times aday

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Za Ha

taking too much of anything is bad.
drink too much milk and it will be bad for u

let us know the results... i was a bit interested in a test phase as well.

Holly

I agree. Whoever was quoting that Lyle Alzado crap is talking about something entirely different.

Cluck, hire someone to help with your diet and cycles (and training if you can afford it). If not, you'll end up with that "I'm sticking shit in my ass and I don't know what I'm doing" look, which imo is nasty. If you don't have anyone, I can probably hook you up with someone through email. I also hope you know/trust who you're getting your gear from. Assholes who know you're new to the whole deal will try and pass some shitty stuff off on you.

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AdultNex

Wtf? Drinking too much milk?

gregtx

steroids are easily addictive... if you do them and see great results.. odds are you will do more... but if you see less results.. you will increase the dosage to get better results...

its the easy way out of just hard work..

I weighed 135 when I graduated high school..i'm now at 165...

i'm not sure how old you are.. but roids are not the answer...

besides.. if you are doing it to get chicks.. think of hte other bad shit that happens... "BACK'ne" (zits all over your back)... extreme chronic halitosis (smells like you ate a piece of dog shit)... roid rage (girls will not want to be around you.. and will think you are phycho)... and just your body odor in general.. higher increase of hormones.. makes you stink !!!...

those are the other effects.. not including nut shrinkage.. and think about the unknowns.. like f*cking up your reproductive system.. so your future kids are jacked upor handicapped... remember these roids are "street" certified... no telling what kind of crap they have in them.. or what you could be allergic to...

would be nice to suffer an anyerism.. or heart attack from your first juicing

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brizzad

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