rs1

You may be mistaken,

The immigrants that came to this country before the 70's were hardworking proud people who did there best to assiliate to the american way of life. Including Sending there children to English Speaking Schools and taking night classes to learn english. These people found it imbarassing to accept Welfair or any Govt Aid.

the New immagrants come here with the sole purpose of milking the american people for every dime. They dont want to learn our Language they take every possbale cent they can get fromthe govt including out right theft. the fact remains that the united States better wake up and get its act together or were fucked.

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sacX

welcome

M_M

There are 2 main types of immigrants.

1. Cheap workers (border jumpers etc)

They are the modern form of slaves. America needs them badly to keep wages low on jobs that americans wouldn't wanna do. If wages for sucky jobs went up, life would become much more expensive, and it would hurt the middle class pretty bad.
US exports would become more expensive too, which would make the already alarming trade deficit even worse.

2. Skilled workers (student who stay after going to college here, or people with college degrees coming to work)

Students spend shitload of money here, as they are not given any scholarships and they are required to pay the highest tuitions.
American students cost money to the goverment until they graduate from high school. Since you are accepting international students with high school degrees, thats shitload of savings right there.
These people are cream of the crop as far as brains go. IT industries need these people badly to stay on top of the world. Foreign workers are much better than outsourced ones, as they have to pay their taxes here.



Without immigration, US would go to shit, believe me. It really helps to keep the balance with all the military expenses and trade deficit going on.

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ahahahaha, of course Ron the fool runs in shame after being completely discredited AGAIN. No doubt tomorrow he'll be back on quoting the same source and calling us fools for paying attention to the CBC and the BBC.

12clicks

you never get tired of tasting your own pee do you child? Pissing up at your betters never gets old for you does it?

here you are asshat, I'll spoon feed you:
go here- http://www.unmovic.org/
click on the "last quarterly report" link.
read the report.
Forgive me for posting google's first link on the subject. When I posted it, you weren't around so I didn't feel the need to break it down so a elementry school drop out could understand.


You better erase this thread from your "12 clicks owned" bookmark folder.

if you'd spend more time building avs sites, and less time here, it wouldn't be so embarrassing for you.

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ADL Colin

What makes the US a superpower? Simple. Money. And lots of it. The US GDP is huge. About $11 trillion. Japan's is less than half of that. And what makes a country have a high GDP? A large population combined with aggressive capitalism and the correct social and economic institutions.
If the US population ceased to grow its economic growth rate would slow. The birthrate in many western countries is too low for population ro continue to grow. Many western european countries such as France are worried that their populations will stagnate and that their power relative to their regions and the rest of the world will thus decline. Meanwhile countries such as Australia, with the same worry, propose legislation to pay citizens for having more children in order to continue their growth. All the while, China heads toward superpower status because it has an immensely large population by which to multiply their small per capita GDP. More GDP = more tax revenue = more weapons - more power.

The United States, on the other hand, permits the immigration of 10 million or so new immigrants every decade. Without immigration, US growth would be considerably slower.

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sacX

The UMNOVIC discusses how some scraps of Iraqi rockets have turned up in the Netherlands, they are not WMDs, although may well have been banned (i.e. as part of long range missiles). Not really the smoking gun the Bush administration wants.

Buff

UCLA/STANFORD STUDY: 'DRUDGE REPORT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER TO THE CENTER THAN ALL OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS'...

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache...rudge%3F&hl=en

Educate yourself, moron.

ADL Colin

That's what it is hoped you'll do. Every dollar in America is circulated about 8 times a year. When you spend $400 it transfers hands 8x. You didn't give your $400 back to the government. You gave it to American businesses who spend the money elsewhere - such as investments and hiring more people. If everyone were to just put their money under their mattress then the whole concept of tax cuts as economic stimulus would be dead.

The largest tax cuts in US history were all followed by economic expansions. These occured under Reagan, Kennedy, and Harding-Coolidge. Now Bush's tax cut combined with record low interest rates has created the fastest annual expansion in 23 years.

When you can combine tax cuts with low interest rates you know you are going to have a strong, robust economy. Yes, combined with increases in spending the cost is a higher debt. The alternative was probably near recession conditions and unemployment continuing to rise. The United States pulled out of its recession much faster than say, most of the EU, has. EU nations such as Germany and France break their self-imposed 3% deficit rule in order to try to stimulate their economy.

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Buff

It's obvious no one else here has studied economics. This is an economics by dummies class if I've ever seen one.

Tax cuts for the rich? Who pays taxes? How do you give a tax cut to people who barely pay taxes?

Income Tax: Who Pays?

IRS Figures for 2000

96/03% of US Income Taxes are paid by the top 50% of wage earners.

Table 1. - Individual Income Tax Returns with Positive Adjusted Gross Income (AGI): Number of Returns, Shares of AGI andTotal Income Tax, AGI Floor on Percentiles in Current and Constant Dollars, and Average Tax Rates, by Selected Descending Cumulative Percentiles of Returns Based on Income Size Using the Definition of AGI for Each Year, Tax Years 1986-2000 [All figures are estimates based on samples]
Descending cumulative percentiles

Year: Total..................Top 1%............Top 5%.........Top 10%.......Top 25%..........Top 50%

Number of returns: [1]
1986: 102,087,623......1,020,876......5,104,381......10, 208,762......25,521,906......51,043,811
1987: 106,154,761......1,061,548......5,307,738......10, 615,476......26,538,690......53,077,380
1988: 108,872,859......1,088,729......5,443,643......10, 887,286......27,218,214......54,436,429
1989: 111,312,721......1,113,127......5,565,636......11, 131,272......27,828,181......55,656,361
1990: 112,812,262......1,128,123......5,640,613......11, 281,226......28,203,066......56,406,132
1991: 113,804,104......1,138,041......5,690,205......11, 380,410......28,451,026......56,902,052
1992: 112,652,759......1,126,528......5,632,638......11, 265,276......28,163,190......56,326,380
1993: 113,681,387......1,136,814......5,684,069......11, 368,139......28,420,347......56,840,694
1994: 114,989,920......1,149,899......5,749,496......11, 498,992......28,747,480......57,494,960
1995: 117,274,186......1,172,742......5,863,709......11, 727,419......29,318,546......58,637,093
1996: 119,441,767......1,194,418......5,972,088......11, 944,177......29,860,442......59,720,884
1997: 121,503,284......1,215,033......6,075,164......12, 150,328......30,375,821......60,751,642
1998: 123,775,831......1,237,758......6,188,792......12, 377,583......30,943,958......61,887,915
1999: 126,008,974......1,260,090......6,300,449......12, 600,897......31,502,244......63,004,487
2000: 128,227,143......1,282,271......6,411,357......12, 822,714......32,056,786......64,113,572

Adjusted gross income floor on percentiles (current dollars):
1986: N/A......118,818......62,377......48,656......32,242 ......17,302
1987: N/A......139,289......68,414......52,921......33,983 ......17,768
1988: N/A......157,136......72,735......55,437......35,398 ......18,367
1989: N/A......163,869......76,933......58,263......36,839 ......18,993
1990: N/A......167,421......79,064......60,287......38,080 ......19,767
1991: N/A......170,139......81,720......61,944......38,929 ......20,097
1992: N/A......181,904......85,103......64,457......40,378 ......20,803
1993: N/A......185,715......87,386......66,077......41,210 ......21,179
1994: N/A......195,726......91,226......68,753......42,742 ......21,802
1995: N/A......209,406......96,221......72,094......44,207 ......22,344
1996: N/A......227,546......101,141......74,986......45,75 7......23,174
1997: N/A......250,736......108,048......79,212......48,17 3......24,393
1998: N/A......269,496......114,729......83,220......50,60 7......25,491
1999: N/A......293,415......120,846......87,682......52,96 5......26,415
2000: N/A......313,469......128,336......92,144......55,22 5......27,682


Adjusted gross income floor on percentiles (constant dollars): [2]
1986: N/A......108,411......56,913......44,394......29,418 ......15,786
1987: N/A......122,614......60,224......46,585......29,915 ......15,641
1988: N/A......132,828......61,484......46,861......29,922 ......15,526
1989: N/A......132,152......62,043......46,986......29,709 ......15,317
1990: N/A......128,096......60,493......46,126......29,135 ......15,124
1991: N/A......124,919......60,000......45,480......28,582 ......14,756
1992: N/A......129,654......60,658......45,942......28,780 ......14,828
1993: N/A......128,522......60,475......45,728......28,519 ......14,657
1994: N/A......132,069......61,556......46,392......28,841 ......14,711
1995: N/A......137,406......63,137......47,306......29,007 ......14,661
1996: N/A......145,026......64,462......47,792......29,163 ......14,769
1997: N/A......156,222......67,320......49,353......30,014 ......15,198
1998: N/A......164,427......69,999......50,775......30,877 ......15,553
1999: N/A......176,119......72,537......52,630......31,792 ......15,855
2000: N/A......182,038......74,527......53,510......32,070 ......16,075


Adjusted gross income (millions of dollars):
1986: 2,524,124......285,197......608,467......886,510.. ....1,490,173......2,103,569
1987: 2,813,728......346,635......722,221......1,038,221 ......1,709,389......2,373,869
1988: 3,124,156......473,527......890,702......1,232,536 ......1,950,860......2,657,865
1989: 3,298,858......468,079......918,421......1,286,539 ......2,054,478......2,805,235
1990: 3,451,237......483,252......953,337......1,338,032 ......2,144,177......2,932,537
1991: 3,516,142......456,603......943,350......1,343,202 ......2,174,765......2,984,003
1992: 3,680,552......523,586......1,031,093......1,443,7 84......2,299,401......3,131,400
1993: 3,775,578......520,586......1,048,252......1,474,4 63......2,357,953......3,212,299
1994: 3,961,146......546,700......1,103,084......1,552,2 05......2,481,074......3,371,352
1995: 4,244,607......619,610......1,222,723......1,704,5 13......2,689,820......3,627,542
1996: 4,590,527......736,545......1,393,805......1,909,1 49......2,952,637......3,944,383
1997: 5,023,457......872,826......1,597,107......2,151,4 01......3,267,600......4,327,992
1998: 5,469,211......1,010,245......1,796,647......2,393 ,716......3,589,600......4,721,430
1999: 5,909,329......1,152,820......2,011,763......2,652 ,835......3,927,308......5,126,164
2000: 6,423,977......1,336,773......2,267,403......2,955 ,386......4,313,786......5,589,755



Descending cumulative percentiles
Year: Total............Top 1%.....Top 5%.......Top 10%....Top 25%....Top 50%

Total income tax (millions of dollars): [3]
1986: 366,979......94,491......156,240......200,703..... .278,976......343,289
1987: 369,046......91,559......159,642......205,230..... .283,857......346,655
1988: 412,761......113,841......188,303......236,411.... ..321,297......389,145
1989: 432,838......109,259......190,188......241,458.... ..334,258......407,599
1990: 447,061......112,338......195,088......247,514.... ..344,340......421,075
1991: 448,349......111,267......194,480......250,282.... ..346,511......423,759
1992: 476,163......131,156......218,479......276,213.... ..373,700......452,070
1993: 502,720......145,836......238,083......297,808.... ..398,516......478,563
1994: 534,754......154,337......254,106......317,902.... ..425,402......509,256
1995: 588,331......178,035......287,741......357,402.... ..472,808......561,225
1996: 658,124......212,626......335,433......411,404.... ..535,164......629,684
1997: 727,303......241,239......377,241......459,639.... ..594,007......696,161
1998: 788,452......274,009......424,506......512,836.... ..651,964......755,240
1999: 877,292......317,419......486,464......583,002.... ..732,890......842,168
2000: 980,521......366,929......553,670......660,150.... ..823,706......942,179


Average tax rate (percentage): [4]
1986: 14.54......33.13......25.68......22.64......18.72. .....16.32
1987: 13.12......26.41......22.10......19.77......16.61. .....14.60
1988: 13.21......24.04......21.14......19.18......16.47. .....14.64
1989: 13.12......23.34......20.71......18.77......16.27. .....14.53
1990: 12.95......23.25......20.46......18.50......16.06. .....14.36
1991: 12.75......24.37......20.62......18.63......15.93. .....14.20
1992: 12.94......25.05......21.19......19.13......16.25. .....14.44
1993: 13.32......28.01......22.71......20.20......16.90. .....14.90
1994: 13.50......28.23......23.04......20.48......17.15. .....15.11
1995: 13.86......28.73......23.53......20.97......17.58. .....15.47
1996: 14.34......28.87......24.07......21.55......18.12. .....15.96
1997: 14.48......27.64......23.62......21.36......18.18. .....16.09
1998: 14.42......27.12......23.63......21.42......18.16. .....16.00
1999: 14.85......27.53......24.18......21.98......18.66. .....16.43
2000: 15.26......27.45......24.42......22.34......19.09. .....16.86

Buff

Adjusted gross income share (percentage): 1986: 100.00......11.30......24.11......35.12......59.04 ......83.34
1987: 100.00......12.32......25.67......36.90......60.75 ......84.37
1988: 100.00......15.16......28.51......39.45......62.44 ......85.07
1989: 100.00......14.19......27.84......39.00......62.28 ......85.04
1990: 100.00......14.00......27.62......38.77......62.13 ......84.97
1991: 100.00......12.99......26.83......38.20......61.85 ......84.87
1992: 100.00......14.23......28.01......39.23......62.47 ......85.08
1993: 100.00......13.79......27.76......39.05......62.45 ......85.08
1994: 100.00......13.80......27.85......39.19......62.64 ......85.11
1995: 100.00......14.60......28.81......40.16......63.37 ......85.46
1996: 100.00......16.04......30.36......41.59......64.32 ......85.92
1997: 100.00......17.38......31.79......42.83......65.05 ......86.16
1998: 100.00......18.47......32.85......43.77......65.63 ......86.33
1999: 100.00......19.51......34.04......44.89......66.46 ......86.75
2000: 100.00......20.81......35.30......46.01......67.15 ......87.01


Total income tax share (percentage): 1986: 100.00......25.75......42.57......54.69......76.02 ......93.54
1987: 100.00......24.81......43.26......55.61......76.92 ......93.93
1988: 100.00......27.58......45.62......57.28......77.84 ......94.28
1989: 100.00......25.24......43.94......55.78......77.22 ......94.17
1990: 100.00......25.13......43.64......55.36......77.02 ......94.19
1991: 100.00......24.82......43.38......55.82......77.29 ......94.52
1992: 100.00......27.54......45.88......58.01......78.48 ......94.94
1993: 100.00......29.01......47.36......59.24......79.27 ......95.19
1994: 100.00......28.86......47.52......59.45......79.55 ......95.23
1995: 100.00......30.26......48.91......60.75......80.36 ......95.39
1996: 100.00......32.31......50.97......62.51......81.32 ......95.68
1997: 100.00......33.17......51.87......63.20......81.67 ......95.72
1998: 100.00......34.75......53.84......65.04......82.69 ......95.79
1999: 100.00......36.18......55.45......66.45......83.54 ......96.00
2000: 100.00......37.42......56.47......67.33......84.01 ......96.09


N/A-- Not applicable.
[1] The number of returns with negative adjusted gross income, i.e., returns with an adjusted gross deficit, and the corresponding amounts for adjusted gross deficit, were excluded from Table 1. By excluding deficit returns, alternative minimum tax reported on some of these returns was also excluded. For Tax Year 2000, there were 5,714 returns with no adjusted gross income that reported income tax, mostly alternative minimum tax, totaling $100.6 million.
[2] For Table 1, constant dollars were calculated using the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' consumer price index for urban consumers (CPI-U, 1982-84=100). For 2000 the CPI-U = 172.2
[3] Total income tax is the sum of income tax after credits and alternative minimum tax reported on returns that showed a positive amount for adjusted gross income. Therefore, total income tax excludes alternative minimum tax, Form 8814 tax (tax on a child's interest or dividends), and Form 4972 tax (tax on lump-sum distributions from qualified retirement plans) reported on some returns with a negative amount for adjusted gross income. See also footnote 1.
[4] The average tax rate was computed by dividing total income tax (see footnote 3) by (positive) adjusted gross income.

Note: Unles otherwise stated, money amounts are in current (not constant) denominations.

Source: Internal Revenue Service, Statistics of Income Division, Unpublished Statistics, September 2002.

12clicks

Wrong. There's much more to the report than that.

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Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.

ImLost

u people seem very lost

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So anyway, there's the answer to your insipid question about why people finally snatched control of the Congress back from the Democrats after they had it for 70 years. We producers are tired of supporting you douchebag, piece of shit, loafing, good for nothing, don't do shit, candy ass crybabies.

sacX

example?

12clicks

Pay next to nothing in, get next to nothing back.

Its a difficult concept to grasp, I'm sure.

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sacX

uh that's retarded. One study says the Drudge Report is centrist, all of a sudden that's gospel?

It doesn't even say who those people are, Professors? students, A+ students, failing students? can't tell.

Perhaps it is a very good measure of bias, but saying someone is a moron for expressing an opinion different to that study is pathetic.

12clicks

imagery of proscribed sites being dismantled and contents disappearing for one.


do your own homework instead of asking me to do it for you.
Listening to the liberal lies you currently listen to won't make you any smarter, son.

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sacX

guess I should read the "World Tribune" instead of the actual UMNOVIC reports instead.

Pleasurepays

I love watching a bunch of idiots on this board solve all the problems of the world.

Odd that there are so many answers here... yet the world is STILL not run by 20-something TGP site owns and gallery submitters.

sacX

the time between those satellite photos is at least 90% while the US had conquered Iraq. It's completely possible that they've been looted, or the US survey group has "cleaned" them up.

There's no speculation in the report about it being whisked out of the country prior to the invasion.

12clicks

or even stolen by martians.

when your a liberal who roots against the US, anything seems possible.

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Buff

Is no one going to dispute the official IRS statistics I posted?

Come on, there's got to be a dipshit Marxist moron out there who wants to argue that only the poor pay taxes.

Alex From San Diego

I think you shut them up with that Buff.....great job



You can't dispute those numbers.

wvuatl

get mugged, robbed, own your own business, or have kids and you will side more with Republicans... if you have liberal thoughts most likely you're being selfish and siding with the party for 1-2 reasons that effect you. (lower taxes, income re-distribution, legal drugs, whatever floats your boat)

try not to associate one thing (religion, sex, etc) with each party and see how you feel about politics.. most people with commons sense would vote toward Republicans.

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exactly. the rabble will pretend its not on the page.

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It's all about GOD :D

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