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Old 06-20-2004, 01:51 PM   #51
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Few of these polls have any real meaning now.
Starting in late September, THEN poll reading will be much more interesting and meaningful.

Until then..Nader could take the lead!
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Old 06-20-2004, 01:56 PM   #52
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Old 06-20-2004, 01:58 PM   #53
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If America votes for Bush again I think that gives the rest of the world the the justification for a pre-emptive strike.

What's good for the goose...
Why do you hate the "rest of the world" so much you would like to see it commit suicide?
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Old 06-20-2004, 03:10 PM   #54
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Mostly because the Constitution would have to be amended.

Just curious. Why do you not like the electoral system?
well..it seems more "democratic" to me if the president gets chosen directly by the people..
even if most people voted for gore for instance bush still won due to having more electoral votes..
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ive seen polls later than this.......and they have Bush's approval ratings falling even more and Kerry in the lead

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Old 06-22-2004, 02:57 PM   #56
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That's ok, I just saw on cnn the other day that no incumbent president who had an approval rating below 50% in May has ever been re-elected.

Bush' approval rating in may was 47%

Looks like we have a new president.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:14 PM   #57
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If Bush wins I'll seriously cry.
I'm just counting the weeks until he's gone.
The adult industry can't afford 4 more years.
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according to what?

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Old 06-22-2004, 03:34 PM   #59
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If Bush wins I'll seriously cry.
I'm just counting the weeks until he's gone.
The adult industry can't afford 4 more years.
I heard that. My view of getting rid of Bush is entirely pragmatic. He's bad news for our industry, simple as that. I'll let the others whine about his foreign policy, etc etc.

Bottom line is that he is hostile to what we do so lets hope he goes.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:38 PM   #60
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Speaking of poll data gathering. I just recently (last week) participated in one. Most of them are done via telephone. They asked me about 20 questions and the last one was "are you a democrate, republican, independant, or other party".
This polling company clearly stated that they were hired by ABC at the begining of the phone call.
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Speaking of poll data gathering. I just recently (last week) participated in one. Most of them are done via telephone. They asked me about 20 questions and the last one was "are you a democrate, republican, independant, or other party".
This polling company clearly stated that they were hired by ABC at the begining of the phone call.
geez

No way I'd ever give any polling agency data like that on me.
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Old 06-22-2004, 05:20 PM   #64
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No way I'd ever give any polling agency data like that on me.
Why not? most polls gather from like 2000 or so people. One persons data is fairly signifigant with those numbers. Hopefully the american sheep will follow along with what is popular.
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well..it seems more "democratic" to me if the president gets chosen directly by the people..
even if most people voted for gore for instance bush still won due to having more electoral votes..
I don't really care much either way but I don't think it's worth changing the constitution over.
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Why do you hate the "rest of the world" so much you would like to see it commit suicide?
Gimme a break - the US can't even "manage" Bush's war with one country, nevermind two or more.

Don't "actually" believe the bs you are fed king
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If America votes for Bush again I think that gives the rest of the world the the justification for a pre-emptive strike.

What's good for the goose...
I agree...
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:32 PM   #69
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Bush will win easily....
Have you head from Asskroft yet? Because of your dire support for this fundamentalist administration I asked a couple of my American friends register complaints to his office about your interracial site... if he hasn't come knocking soon, don't worry, he will. Or is that why your already opened affiliate program is now "coming soon"?

You have to be a special kind of fool to vote for a religious nut that wants to put your pornographer ass in jail.
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Why do you hate the "rest of the world" so much you would like to see it commit suicide?
I know you're crazy, but are you really crazy enough to think the US could take on the entire world?

Bush and Rumsfeld can barley handle Iraq after 10 years of sanctions.

I love people who confuse how much republicans overspend on defense with actual military capability.
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Have you head from Asskroft yet? Because of your dire support for this fundamentalist administration I asked a couple of my American friends register complaints to his office about your interracial site... if he hasn't come knocking soon, don't worry, he will. Or is that why your already opened affiliate program is now "coming soon"?

You have to be a special kind of fool to vote for a religious nut that wants to put your pornographer ass in jail.
You would turn a fellow pornographer in for such a thing because you disagree with their political beliefs? Discussing politics is one thing, turning on your brethren is another. We're all on the same side here. I'm disgusted that you would even joke about such a thing and if you are serious you're a really pathetic human being. Sad, Rich. No one should ever do business with you.
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You would turn a fellow pornographer in for such a thing because you disagree with their political beliefs? Discussing politics is one thing, turning on your brethren is another. We're all on the same side here. I'm disgusted that you would even joke about such a thing and if you are serious you're a really pathetic human being. Sad, Rich. No one should ever do business with you.
People who support John Asskroft are trying to put us all out of business, sometimes it's best to try to give blind fools the kind of government they think they want. Any Bush apologist is not my brethren, and is a disease on our industry. They may as well be the first people the fanatics put it jail, better him than a rational human being who cares about the future of our business.
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just cool your jets guys..........you can disagree politically all you want but don't be aiding and abetting this gov't in anyway by turning on fellow webmasters trying to earn a living..........even those that are pro-bush (even though i can't understand that one as this admin. is openly hostile to us).........

but just cool the jets.
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just cool your jets guys..........you can disagree politically all you want but don't be aiding and abetting this gov't in anyway by turning on fellow webmasters trying to earn a living..........even those that are pro-bush (even though i can't understand that one as this admin. is openly hostile to us).........

but just cool the jets.
Their vote and support is aiding and abetting this government. Those who want this type of religious fundamentalist leadership should be the first to experience it.
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just cool your jets guys..........you can disagree politically all you want but don't be aiding and abetting this gov't in anyway by turning on fellow webmasters trying to earn a living..........even those that are pro-bush (even though i can't understand that one as this admin. is openly hostile to us).........

but just cool the jets.
I'm sure there are hundreds of people who agree with you.
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People who support John Asskroft are trying to put us all out of business, sometimes it's best to try to give blind fools the kind of government they think they want. Any Bush apologist is not my brethren, and is a disease on our industry. They may as well be the first people the fanatics put it jail, better him than a rational human being who cares about the future of our business.
I don't get it. You point out that anyone who supports John Ashhahahahaha is a disease on the industry and then readily admit you are willing to complain to the DOJ about someone in "retaliation". Someone like you is much worse than someone who would "vote Republican", you are actually willing to assist them. You are scum.
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I don't get it. You point out that anyone who supports John Ashhahahahaha is a disease on the industry and then readily admit you are willing to complain to the DOJ about someone in "retaliation". Someone like you is much worse than someone who would "vote Republican", you are actually willing to assist them. You are scum.
That's not the only thing you don't get.

They have no shortage of people to arrest, so I say put the apologists at the top of the list. They're already prosecuting what, 300 people for obscenity? If it takes jail time to wake up some of these hypocrites in our industry, well like I said it's better them than good people who care about our business. A supporter of this regime is no friend of mine and no friend of our industry.

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Hey what do you know, we can report them online now.

http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/

God Bless George Bush's America! 4 more years!
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This is what you get from a newbie AVS site maker with no connections to the industry other than a messgeboard.
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http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/

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Rich, I just spent a considerable amount of time on that website. There is simply no other way to put it; those people are out of their fuckin' heads. This is what happens when neo-leftist feminism goes to bed with right-wing, religious nut extremists. You get an unholy abortion of censorship of the porn industry. I guess according to these people, everything is our fault. If there is a twister in Texas, must be dem damn porny-ografers!
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This is what you get from a newbie AVS site maker with no connections to the industry other than a messgeboard.
Y'know Colin, I'm a hell of a lot more interested in you opinion of that goddamn website than I am of your opinion of Rich.

You been there?
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Y'know Colin, I'm a hell of a lot more interested in you opinion of that goddamn website than I am of your opinion of Rich.

You been there?
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"I will continue to speak anywhere I am invited. Thus far I have spoken to youth groups, high school groups, churches, PTAs, town meetings, monthly American Family Association meetings and conference workshops. In addition, SCPCF has been invited to join in on a Web site that will provide information and education regarding the harms of pornography. I have been appointed, along with local pastors and bishops, to a steering committee initiated by our mayor, and my husband and I have been interviewed by our local ABC affiliate.


The urgency for assistance for the sexually broken in our country is overwhelming. In addition, we must actively work to regulate sexually oriented businesses to the full extent of the constitution, thus protecting our community from the secondary harmful effects these businesses cause.

With God's grace, I hope to redeem some of the time I wasted being "wasted."

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Y'know Colin, I'm a hell of a lot more interested in you opinion of that goddamn website than I am of your opinion of Rich.

You been there?
Joe, I've posted this elsewhere but i'll repeat it. The Republicans are at the gates and they have not hired 32 prosecutors for no reason at all.
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Joe, I've posted this elsewhere but i'll repeat it. The Republicans are at the gates and they have not hired 32 prosecutors for no reason at all.
Isn't it ironic that the religious right are the western equivalent of muslim extremists.

Why are we letting our future be decided by fundamentalists?

What has gone wrong?
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Isn't it ironic that the religious right are the western equivalent of muslim extremists.

Why are we letting our future be decided by fundamentalists?

What has gone wrong?
we will fight to the bitter end. we will win.
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Isn't it ironic that the religious right are the western equivalent of muslim extremists.

Why are we letting our future be decided by fundamentalists?

What has gone wrong?
Nothing has gone wrong. A Republic is strong and stable with a degree of both liberalism and conservatism. A degree of conservatism keeps things from moving too fast which can be very dangerous to the stability of a nation. I offer 1861 as an example.

America progresses is in a liberal direction but just not real fast. You need only look back a generation and see Elvis on TV shot from the hip up to see that. Often, liberal ideas are advocated and argued for by segments of America, taken up by other parts of the world, and then exported back here. It's a large influential society. Sometimes it is in the lead and sometimes not.
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its social conservatism, not fiscal conservatism, that scares me.

social conservatism+religious zeal=censorship


but.........

social liberalism in the guise of wackos like radical feminists also=censorship
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Nothing has gone wrong. A Republic is strong and stable with a degree of both liberalism and conservatism. A degree of conservatism keeps things from moving too fast which can be very dangerous to the stability of a nation. I offer 1861 as an example.

America progresses is in a liberal direction but just not real fast. You need only look back a generation and see Elvis on TV shot from the hip up to see that. Often, liberal ideas are advocated and argued for by segments of America, taken up by other parts of the world, and then exported back here. It's a large influential society. Sometimes it is in the lead and sometimes not.
Doesn't it scare you that the leader of the western world thinks the Earth is a mere 6000 years old and that evolution is "just a theory"?

It scares me and I don't even live there.

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Doesn't it scare you that the leader of the western world thinks the Earth is a mere 6000 years old and that evolution is "just a theory"?

It scares me and I don't even live there.
once again, that is derived from religious opiate.
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Doesn't it scare you that the leader of the western world thinks the Earth is a mere 6000 years old and that evolution is "just a theory"?
There are many things I disagree with Bush on. Same goes for Clinton or Bush I or Reagan or Carter - previous "leaders of the free world". I could make a long list for each of them. I don't subscribe to the views of any one party or principle. I am not scared of views I disagree with.
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Would it scare you if George Bush believed that 1 plus 1 equals 3?
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Would it scare you if George Bush believed that 1 plus 1 equals 3?
Joe,

Let me explain myself more accurately. There are a large number of things which any of us has an opinion on. There are some things which I really disagree with George Bush on. There are some things which I really disagree with John Kerry on. Unless one subscribes completely to the beliefs of a particular person worshipping them as pharoah, this is inevitable. If you want to ask me if there are things I don't agree with George Bush on, such as how the old earth is, the answer is yes. The same goes for any other politician. It is impossible that there is any politician who has the same beliefs as I on every issue of importance to me. To further complicate the matter, I hardly ever have a clear "yes" or "no" answer to most political questions. If you ask me what I think on any political issue I can usually tell you some arguments on each side that I think are both valid.
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Old 06-24-2004, 11:12 AM   #97
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This is what you get from a newbie AVS site maker with no connections to the industry other than a messgeboard.
hmm, funny how you start using 12dicks lines but like him, are just a big talker too chicken shit to prove you're worth more than I am. God, it really hurts to be insulted by a bunch of jackasses who run when you ask them to back up their bullshit.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=281861

chirp chirp chirp as usual, I can probably buy and sell you, Pathfinder, and 12dicks combined, I must have some seriously amazing AVS sites.
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:15 PM   #98
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Have you head from Asskroft yet? Because of your dire support for this fundamentalist administration I asked a couple of my American friends register complaints to his office about your interracial site... if he hasn't come knocking soon, don't worry, he will. Or is that why your already opened affiliate program is now "coming soon"?

You have to be a special kind of fool to vote for a religious nut that wants to put your pornographer ass in jail.
No one has knocked on my door and I doubt they will punk.

Check back on July 1st and you will see why jackass.

Why weren't you at the show in San Diego Richie and spew your garbage to my face?
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:19 PM   #99
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No one has knocked on my door and I doubt they will punk.

Check back on July 1st and you will see why jackass.

Why weren't you at the show in San Diego Richie and spew your garbage to my face?
http://www.obscenitycrimes.org

Don't lock the door when you go out, it just pisses them off when they search your house without a warrant.
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:33 PM   #100
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http://www.obscenitycrimes.org

Don't lock the door when you go out, it just pisses them off when they search your house without a warrant.
I wish you would just show up rich....I have a domain called pickupyourteeth.com and you would be perfect content for it...

But I understand you wouldn't because the toughness in you extends about as far as the monitor you are behind.

I don't even know why I waste my time with you.

If you feel the need Rich then do it pussy.

I'm out.
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