Any TGP owners out there mind if I just 404 100 or so galleries? - Page 6 - GoFuckYourself.com

blueboy · 06-09-2004, 09:42 PM

250 affiliates lost.

CDSmith · 06-09-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Forkbeard
So what am I missing?

You're missing the part where the name of this sponsor could be outted on the boards, likely resulting in a lot of affiliates and TGP's (some rather large) pulling their links and refusing to accept further galleries that promote this sponsort in future.

Their bottom line could drop well below freezing in a short period of time.

I think it is in their best interest to get their heads out of their asses and start being reasonable with Jact and Lady M. Yeah, I think so.

jact · 06-09-2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by KCat
I'm so sorry to hear you guys are still fighting this. What a nightmare! You should be getting fruit baskets, not ridiculous demands.

I'm actually surprised the thread is so free of spam. Where are all the "promote my honest program instead!" vultures???

Since nobody's vulturing, I'll give Steve a plug, honest programs deserve kudos where it's due!

http://www.lightspeedcash.com/

Paying up to $35 per signup, you'll make yourself a truck load of money. You see that guest house of Steve's? Yeah, we paid for that. You're welcome Steve

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
Since nobody's vulturing, I'll give Steve a plug, honest programs deserve kudos where it's due!

http://www.lightspeedcash.com/

Paying up to $35 per signup, you'll make yourself a truck load of money. You see that guest house of Steve's? Yeah, we paid for that. You're welcome Steve

Steve is 100%

jact · 06-09-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Steve is 100%

It really is a shame he won't go for that 120% payout I requested though.

InsaneMidget · 06-09-2004, 09:48 PM

Jact (01:49 AM) :
die

CDSmith · 06-09-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by jact
It really is a shame he won't go for that 120% payout I requested though.

damn him. damn him to hell!

jennym · 06-09-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
Prolly won't get any credit for the sales, even tho they are paying the BW, and it's not one or two joins a day

Well, if they are forced to quit promoting these galleries, they lose those sales anyway. If they leave the galleries up, and tell the sponsor to GFY, then they won't have any 404 galleries, won't have to change any galleries, won't have to email umpteen TGP owners, etc....

I say out them, and tell them to fuck off!

Bake · 06-09-2004, 09:59 PM

These sponsor dosent really know or is to stupid to know how much real power are behind this. Im guessing there's a good chance this sponsor is allready fucked.

jact · 06-09-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Bake
These sponsor dosent really know or is to stupid to know how much real power are behind this. Im guessing there's a good chance this sponsor is allready fucked.

They've been informed as to what steps would be taken if needs be. I was rather surprised myself.

Tempest · 06-09-2004, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by jact
you don't say it's okay for affiliate A to use the content and you say it's okay for affiliate B to use the content then go and tell affiliate A that you don't want them using the content anymore and please remove it immediately or we'll lock your account isn't exactly fair, when affiliates B - ZY497B are still allowed to use the content.

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Should we be made to pay for use of content that we are not the only ones using? If this is the case, ALL their affiliates should be required to discontinue use of the content. Why isn't that happening?

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Yes, they were implying it was obtained in a way that was unacceptable, when in face this is not the case.

So I've read all the posts in this thread. And unless I missed something from the beginning, I'm left wondering the following. Did you actually have permission from the sponsor to take content from their members area?

jact · 06-09-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tempest
So I've read all the posts in this thread. And unless I missed something from the beginning, I'm left wondering the following. Did you actually have permission from the sponsor to take content from their members area?

Indeed, they issued a password to the members area on two occasions (Our first one broke) for that very purpose.

Tempest · 06-09-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Indeed, they issued a password to the members area on two occasions (Our first one broke) for that very purpose.

Is it "HOW" you're using the content? i.e. saying the site is one thing when it's actually another. Or perhaps pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable while promoting this site? For example, I've had galleries promoting mature sites but making them out to be incest sites.

Tempest · 06-09-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Tempest
I've had galleries promoting mature sites but making them out to be incest sites.

That part came out wrong. I should have said "I've had galleries submitted to me that promote mature sites by making them out to be incest sites."

psyko514 · 06-09-2004, 11:45 PM

wow... this is beyond fucking retarded.

are we talking a really popular program here?

kush · 06-10-2004, 12:38 AM

Looking forward to hearing about this one

blueboy · 06-10-2004, 05:04 AM

Good morning bump

jact · 06-10-2004, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
wow... this is beyond fucking retarded.

are we talking a really popular program here?

I would suspect they're popular, I know they've got a lot of folks pushing them, for now.

jact · 06-10-2004, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tempest
Is it "HOW" you're using the content? i.e. saying the site is one thing when it's actually another. Or perhaps pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable while promoting this site? For example, I've had galleries promoting mature sites but making them out to be incest sites.

We informed them exactly how we'd be using the content, they had no problem with us using it for galleries, but now they've changed their mind a month and a half later. Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. We refuse to be bullied and it's probably not a good idea to bully your affiliates anyhow.

demented · 06-10-2004, 06:18 AM

I can understand all of this LadyM and Jact. My partner accounts are the root of my business. They are way more valuable to me than a months worth of sales. This shit really does suck, and I hope you guys work something out. You have a lot of people who have your backs

Gunni · 06-10-2004, 06:35 AM

I'd like to suggest something, I couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread, it's way too long so I don't know if this has been suggested already.

I say just fuck them! Leave your galleries intact, don't touch them and stop promotiong the sponser. If they don't pay you sue them

Oracle Porn · 06-10-2004, 08:08 AM

heres my opinion on this
as an affiliate program they can choose who to do biz with.
if they dont like the signups you are sending them, its their right to no accept anymore signups (within a 3-7 days notice) but they HAVE to pay you for all the signups you sent them.

jact · 06-10-2004, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
heres my opinion on this
as an affiliate program they can choose who to do biz with.
if they dont like the signups you are sending them, its their right to no accept anymore signups (within a 3-7 days notice) but they HAVE to pay you for all the signups you sent them.

Oh, they still want us to promote them, that's the kicker.

Oracle Porn · 06-10-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by jact
Oh, they still want us to promote them, that's the kicker.

huh? WTF?
im not gonna read 6 pages....but I dont get it.

They dont want your signups, want to suspend your account, not pay the money they owe you, and still want you to promote them?
c'mon dude what am I missing?

jact · 06-10-2004, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
huh? WTF?
im not gonna read 6 pages....but I dont get it.

They dont want your signups, want to suspend your account, not pay the money they owe you, and still want you to promote them?
c'mon dude what am I missing?

If you figure it out, could you tell us?

jimmyf · 06-10-2004, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith

I think it is in their best interest to get their heads out of their asses and start being reasonable with Jact and Lady M. Yeah, I think so.

Most likely what will happen.
I really hope so.
Never heard of anything like this.

Tuna · 06-10-2004, 08:44 AM

doesnt matter how it turns out. i wouldnt be promoting them any longer.

jimmyf · 06-10-2004, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
If you figure it out, could you tell us?

lickmymonster · 06-10-2004, 08:51 AM

Juicy D. Links · 06-10-2004, 08:52 AM

Lets all take a break and remeber how good looking i am

jact · 06-10-2004, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Lets all take a break and remeber how good looking i am

You are daaaaaaaaaaaaamn good looking

HS-Trixxxia · 06-10-2004, 09:08 AM

jact, you're still waiting for a fucking call? A decision?

OP - just so you don't have to go through 6 pages (might ruin your future vacation) - for some reason, this sponsor has given jact &/or LadyM access to the members' area to pick and choose the content they would use to promote them. Someone within the company, for some foresaken reason believes that the content in question was not yet released (put live on the site). For this reason, they want jact & LadyM to remove those pics from the galleries or 404 those galleries.

The problem is this -

1) before they got into this, they had authorization to use the pics from the members' area (they did not hack into their server to pick up whatever they damn well pleased) they took what was available to the members

2) other webmasters are using the content - yet are not being asked to do this

3) they will gladly continue to keep them as affiliates - they just want those galleries gone

4) ANY CHANGE TO THOSE GALLERIES CAN & MOST LIKELY WILL:

Cause them to lose their partner accounts at some places that aren't reading this.

Cost them time to change the pages or remove the links or remove the content or whatever - TIME is of the essence

Cost them the PAID LISTINGS (that aren't going cheap nowadays)

COST THEM POTENTIAL FUTURE EARNINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH ANOTHER 'GOOD/REASONABLE' SPONSOR.

5) A valid reason has not been given for this request.

I can't believe this isn't resolved - if the program owner didn't see this thread and get it fixed PRONTO - he's not gifted on the PR & probably has no clue on the Decision-making process.

Oracle Porn · 06-10-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
jact, you're still waiting for a fucking call? A decision?

OP - just so you don't have to go through 6 pages (might ruin your future vacation) - for some reason, this sponsor has given jact &/or LadyM access to the members' area to pic and choose the content they would use to promote them. Someone within the company, for some foresaken reason believes that the content in question was not yet released (put live on the site). For this reason, they want jact & LadyM to remove those pics from the galleries or 404 those galleries.

The problem is this -

1) before they got into this, they had authorization to use the pics from the members' area (they did not hack into their server to pick up whatever they damn well pleased) they took what was available to the members

2) other webmasters are using the content - yet are not being asked to do this

3) they will gladly continue to keep them as affiliates - they just want those galleries gone

4) ANY CHANGE TO THOSE GALLERIES CAN & MOST LIKELY WILL:

Cause them to lose their partner accounts at some places that aren't reading this.

Cost them time to change the pages or remove the links or remove the content or whatever - TIME is of the essence

Cost them the PAID LISTINGS (that aren't going cheap nowadays)

COST THEM POTENTIAL FUTURE EARNINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH ANOTHER 'GOOD/REASONABLE' SPONSOR.

5) A valid reason has not been given for this request.

I can't believe this isn't resolved - if the program owner didn't see this thread and get it fixed PRONTO - he's not gifted on the PR & probably has no clue on the Decision-making process.

thanks for the summer bro...
well its simple....tell them to go fuck themselves, and if they dont pay, fuck them - anal - no lube.

jact · 06-10-2004, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
jact, you're still waiting for a fucking call? A decision?

The last we heard from anyone was from our rep, this is what he told us.

"Listen I never got in touch with INSERT NAME HERE, so my advice is to take those galleries down."

The owner sent the rep to do his dirty work and the owner won't deal with this himself unless we sit there and war dial his cell. Not gunna happen.

(This was before this thread)

Nifield · 06-10-2004, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
i'll buy your 404 traffic..

hehe good one shemp

Bryan Havoc · 06-10-2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
The last we heard from anyone was from our rep, this is what he told us.

"Listen I never got in touch with INSERT NAME HERE, so my advice is to take those galleries down."

The owner sent the rep to do his dirty work and the owner won't deal with this himself unless we sit there and war dial his cell. Not gunna happen.

(This was before this thread)

It really must take a lot of restraint by you guys and everyone that knows not to name the program involved.

jact · 06-10-2004, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by apx_bryan
It really must take a lot of restraint by you guys and everyone that knows not to name the program involved.

We're asking for fair treatment, it wouldn't be fair of us to go and blurt it out without having exhausted our options. That doesn't mean our patience isn't wearing thin.

XxXotic · 06-10-2004, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
It really must take a lot of restraint by you guys and everyone that knows not to name the program involved.

you have no idea

HS-Trixxxia · 06-10-2004, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
The last we heard from anyone was from our rep, this is what he told us.

"Listen I never got in touch with INSERT NAME HERE, so my advice is to take those galleries down."

The owner sent the rep to do his dirty work and the owner won't deal with this himself unless we sit there and war dial his cell. Not gunna happen.

(This was before this thread)

That's shit - a rep wouldn't take it upon himself to ruin the reputation of the company - unless he's getting fired or already has been.

Are you still seeing sales? (out of curiosity if they have stopped accepting joins or not)

If the program owner is not on this and calling you directly - I say try a call - if you can't get through to him. I say keep your galleries there. If they don't pay you for it - take legal action, you have proof that you were given authorization to use the content? Sue them - oh and for reference info, you should out them on this public board, just so others are warned - get the legal info on this before (just in case) Fuck them - they aren't worried about your reputation, costs or income - why the hell should you worry about theirs?

HS-Trixxxia · 06-10-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
thanks for the summer bro...
well its simple....tell them to go fuck themselves, and if they dont pay, fuck them - anal - no lube.

Sis if anything - bro would be my husband

jact · 06-10-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
That's shit - a rep wouldn't take it upon himself to ruin the reputation of the company - unless he's getting fired or already has been.

Are you still seeing sales? (out of curiosity if they have stopped accepting joins or not)

If the program owner is not on this and calling you directly - I say try a call - if you can't get through to him. I say keep your galleries there. If they don't pay you for it - take legal action, you have proof that you were given authorization to use the content? Sue them - oh and for reference info, you should out them on this public board, just so others are warned - get the legal info on this before (just in case) Fuck them - they aren't worried about your reputation, costs or income - why the hell should you worry about theirs?

We're still getting trickle effect sales, yeah.

I can't figure out why the rep wouldn't be a little more proactive about this. Even if you were just the messenger, if you realized that your job might not mean much as a result of what you're delivering, wouldn't you work with your affiliate to make things right?

foolio · 06-10-2004, 09:50 AM

Somebody ICQ me when they out the sponsor

HS-Trixxxia · 06-10-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
We're still getting trickle effect sales, yeah.

I can't figure out why the rep wouldn't be a little more proactive about this. Even if you were just the messenger, if you realized that your job might not mean much as a result of what you're delivering, wouldn't you work with your affiliate to make things right?

Quite frankly - I've quit high paying jobs for less - if my boss is an idiot and makes me look bad, I quit. My reputation means alot to me - my word is sacred for me. I may not be a millionaire, but my word means alot to me and I protect it with my life.

I'd either slap my boss silly - let him see the light or tell him to keep his fucked up decisions and settle the chaos he's created himself.

But that's me....and in all my years, everyone has told me I have a fucked up sense of 'doing the right thing' hehehe.....

xxxdesign-net · 06-10-2004, 10:00 AM

Are we talking about JuicyCash.com !?

jact · 06-10-2004, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Are we talking about JuicyCash.com !?

If it'll get him more webmasters promoting him? Yes. If not? Not a chance in hell.

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-10-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by onlymovies
Contact info?

mailman's handlin them now, i'll have him contact you today. I don't feel comfortable doing a hard sell of our resource on another board, it would piss me off if someone else did it.

Stallion · 06-10-2004, 10:30 AM

Damn jact, sounds like a fucked up situation. I hope it all ends with everyone happy. Good luck with it though!

maxjohan · 06-10-2004, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
huh? WTF?
im not gonna read 6 pages....but I dont get it.

They dont want your signups, want to suspend your account, not pay the money they owe you, and still want you to promote them?
c'mon dude what am I missing?

fake drama

jact · 06-10-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
fake drama

You sir, need to remove your head from your ass if you think this is fake drama.

Oh look, you're from Sweden too.

TheJimmy · 06-10-2004, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foolio
Somebody ICQ me when they out the sponsor

out the sponsor?

yes please....

06-09-2004, 09:42 PM	#251
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06-09-2004, 09:48 PM	#256
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06-09-2004, 09:59 PM	#259
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06-09-2004, 11:45 PM	#265
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06-10-2004, 05:04 AM	#267
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06-10-2004, 12:38 AM	#266
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Looking forward to hearing about this one

06-10-2004, 06:18 AM	#270
demented Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,388	I can understand all of this LadyM and Jact. My partner accounts are the root of my business. They are way more valuable to me than a months worth of sales. This shit really does suck, and I hope you guys work something out. You have a lot of people who have your backs

06-10-2004, 06:35 AM	#271
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	I'd like to suggest something, I couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread, it's way too long so I don't know if this has been suggested already. I say just fuck them! Leave your galleries intact, don't touch them and stop promotiong the sponser. If they don't pay you sue them

06-10-2004, 08:08 AM	#272
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	heres my opinion on this as an affiliate program they can choose who to do biz with. if they dont like the signups you are sending them, its their right to no accept anymore signups (within a 3-7 days notice) but they HAVE to pay you for all the signups you sent them. __________________

06-10-2004, 08:44 AM	#277
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06-10-2004, 08:51 AM	#279
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06-10-2004, 08:52 AM	#280
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06-10-2004, 09:08 AM	#282
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	jact, you're still waiting for a fucking call? A decision? OP - just so you don't have to go through 6 pages (might ruin your future vacation) - for some reason, this sponsor has given jact &/or LadyM access to the members' area to pick and choose the content they would use to promote them. Someone within the company, for some foresaken reason believes that the content in question was not yet released (put live on the site). For this reason, they want jact & LadyM to remove those pics from the galleries or 404 those galleries. The problem is this - 1) before they got into this, they had authorization to use the pics from the members' area (they did not hack into their server to pick up whatever they damn well pleased) they took what was available to the members 2) other webmasters are using the content - yet are not being asked to do this 3) they will gladly continue to keep them as affiliates - they just want those galleries gone 4) ANY CHANGE TO THOSE GALLERIES CAN & MOST LIKELY WILL: Cause them to lose their partner accounts at some places that aren't reading this. Cost them time to change the pages or remove the links or remove the content or whatever - TIME is of the essence Cost them the PAID LISTINGS (that aren't going cheap nowadays) COST THEM POTENTIAL FUTURE EARNINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH ANOTHER 'GOOD/REASONABLE' SPONSOR. 5) A valid reason has not been given for this request. I can't believe this isn't resolved - if the program owner didn't see this thread and get it fixed PRONTO - he's not gifted on the PR & probably has no clue on the Decision-making process. __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com Last edited by HS-Trixxxia; 06-10-2004 at 09:10 AM..

06-10-2004, 09:50 AM	#292
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06-10-2004, 10:00 AM	#294
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06-10-2004, 10:30 AM	#297
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