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Old 06-03-2004, 06:03 AM   #1
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IT'S OFFICIAL: Draft in '05

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ua_congressorg


Pending Draft Legislation Targeted for Spring 2005
The Draft will Start in June 2005


There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:04 AM   #2
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:04 AM   #3
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i'm floored...whoa
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:08 AM   #4
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:22 AM   #5
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what are the draft ages ?
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:22 AM   #6
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Sounds good to me.

Kids today need bootcamp.
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:24 AM   #7
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This keeps getting posted but no new info is ever added..
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:27 AM   #8
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It won't pass. There would be draft riots.
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:28 AM   #9
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Old 06-03-2004, 06:28 AM   #10
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remember folks...it's congress.org

not congress.gov...

i would take whats on congress.org with a grain of salt
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:31 AM   #11
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Sounds good to me.

Kids today need bootcamp.
so lets send them to a country where they shouldn't be and with their inexperience end up dead?

sounds good to me too
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:33 AM   #12
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:34 AM   #13
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:36 AM   #14
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May they draft GFY Noobs first.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:38 AM   #15
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Drafting women this time too. I'm glad I'm old for once.

I don't believe in the draft.

On the flipside, it can't be that hard to get out of it if you were drafted and that set against it. They will oust you for conditions such as depression or panic attacks which are kind of hard to disprove you have.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:39 AM   #16
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I'm glad I served my 8 years already and that I'm over 30 now. Damn this will suck for some kids that don't agree with this war and have to go. Fuck!
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:40 AM   #17
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sad for all those that don´t want to be in the army I guess Canaduh is going to have a lot of extra visitors.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:44 AM   #18
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So what is the weather like in Vancouver around Spring time?
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:48 AM   #19
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:49 AM   #20
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http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airfo...afdownsize.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airfo...werjoining.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/b/a/2004_05_31.htm (last article about the Army)

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/guard...eservefull.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/draft.htm

Just a few articles which make me personally think we won't see a draft for the current situations.

Edited to add - the last article is the best for good info and FACTS.

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Old 06-03-2004, 10:50 AM   #21
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Prfff not likly to happen . Bush is just on crack right now .
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:51 AM   #22
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no congressmen is going to want to send their grandchildren to fight and die in a war over power/money/oil

a draft WILL NOT happen.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:51 AM   #23
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said it before, will say it again, not gonna happen

anti-draft will turn into anti-war, people for the iraq war aren't gonna go for it

if anything, i can see anti-war folks supporting this so it'll get more media attention so more people will become anti-war
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:52 AM   #24
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Prfff not likly to happen . Bush is just on crack right now .
just right now?
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:53 AM   #25
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I just dont understand why the mainstream media arnt jumping all over this

I dont even live in the US and I see it as big news......

The economic fallout alone will affect us all
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:53 AM   #26
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YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS

This legislation was sponsored by Sen. Ernest F. Hollings [SC], A DEMOCRAT so for all you that think this is a huge Bush/Ashhahahahaha conspiracy get a clue!

And for anyone else who doesn't understand how the government works, the bills need to be VOTED on and passed in the Senate and the House.

Use your brains for once, and don't just be sheep.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:59 AM   #27
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how is it official as it looks to me to be the same "pending" bill that's been around for at least 6 months. Doesn't look like anything new to me
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YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS

This legislation was sponsored by Sen. Ernest F. Hollings [SC], A DEMOCRAT so for all you that think this is a huge Bush/Ashhahahahaha conspiracy get a clue!

And for anyone else who doesn't understand how the government works, the bills need to be VOTED on and passed in the Senate and the House.

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http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ua_congressorg


Pending Draft Legislation Targeted for Spring 2005
The Draft will Start in June 2005


There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.
have a look at this, DarkDope:
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdqu...8:HR00163:@@@P
A list of the co-sponsors of HR163
If you had a clue, you'd understand that this is just more liberal race baiting/class warfare and has no bearing on reality.
Just more liberal bullshit.
Kinda like this thread.
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http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airfo...afdownsize.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airfo...werjoining.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/b/a/2004_05_31.htm (last article about the Army)

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/guard...eservefull.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/draft.htm

Just a few articles which make me personally think we won't see a draft for the current situations.

Edited to add - the last article is the best for good info and FACTS.
I only read the last article, but it was a VERY good one. Answers a lot of questions about the feasability of a draft.

Thanks for the links.

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remember folks...it's congress.org

not congress.gov...

i would take whats on congress.org with a grain of salt

Normally, so would I but.... From Congress.gov:

SUMMARY AS OF:
1/7/2003--Introduced.
Universal National Service Act of 2003 - Declares that it is the obligation of every U.S. citizen, and every other person residing in the United States, between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service, unless exempted, either as a member of an active or reserve component of the armed forces or in a civilian capacity that promotes national defense. Requires induction into national service by the President. Sets forth provisions governing: (1) induction deferments, postponements, and exemptions, including exemption of a conscientious objector from military service that includes combatant training; and (2) discharge following national service.

Amends the Military Selective Service Act to authorize the military registration of females.
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Normally, so would I but.... From Congress.gov:

SUMMARY AS OF:
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Universal National Service Act of 2003 -
Are you aware that bills are introduced all the time? It's been OVER A YEAR since that was one was introduced. No draft. What does that tell you?
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Why doesn't the US just leave people the fuck alone! Then, we wouldn't have to draft! What a novel concept!
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have you read the other articles on that site? i don't know how reliable that looks.. haha
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um..this thread says official, but the article says pending...didn't anyone else notice that? LOL
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okay, can't believe I am about to side with 12clicks on something but honestly some times I read threads and get flashbacks to the kids that made fun of me for paying attention in poli sci class. Maybe we need to play that cartoon on how a bill becomes law for people.
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