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Old 05-30-2004, 02:06 AM   #1
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Are you guys stupid or just plain braind dead?

You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here. There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.

Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.

Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.

If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too.
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uh oh someone got on KRL's badside tonight. but yeah there's a ton of info available here if you just use it.
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uh oh someone got on KRL's badside tonight. but yeah there's a ton of info available here if you just use it.
Not my bad side, just Creative calling Sleazy a fat, ugly loser really worked me up.
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amen to that. half the comments i see made here belong in an AOL chatroom. I mean having fun is one thing, but having a postwar about whos fatter/poorer/richer/gets laid more/etc is getting fucking old. A wiseman once said

"fighting on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even if you win, your still retarded".

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some people dont understand the buisness of making buisness..to some this is all fun and games
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it's almost impossible to weed through the bullshit and drama to find much if any worthwhile information here.

and with the fucking search disabled 99% of the fucking time.. it's COMPLETELY impossible.
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Very good points, KRL. However, some of the apparent bashing/'drama' you see here are sometimes underhanded marketing
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For what it's worth there are a few of us who come to this board to learn and I for one appreciate all the great help I've had to date. Long may it continue!

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I think it's because a lot of people on here aren't involved in this business full-time and treat it as a hobby that makes a little extra money. It's a shame but comes with any industry if you ask me.

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Very good points, KRL. However, some of the apparent bashing/'drama' you see here are sometimes underhanded marketing
Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
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You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here. There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.

Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.

Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.

If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too.
Good words to live by, do you think anyone will listen ?
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I think it's because a lot of people on here aren't involved in this business full-time and treat it as a hobby that makes a little extra money. It's a shame but comes with any industry if you ask me.

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Good words to live by, do you think anyone will listen ?
If one does, that's a start.
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Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
you know to play fair here, doesn't sleazy deserve alot of the bashing he gets from new guys and people who don't take well to his type of humor?
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Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
I couldnt agree more, however I think sleazy also made himself a target, although jokingly with his "why im better than you" thread. The low self esteem of some around here couldnt handle it and picked him as there target. Not saying it was sleazy's fault, but anytime you brag about how wonderful you are publicly, especially here, its just asking for trouble...


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Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
True. Some of it is meant as marketing but I'm sure given the offensiveness level, the benefits can easily be overshadowed by the negative association.
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You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here. There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.

Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.

Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.

If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too.
Sadly, the ones that are doing the things you mention, have very little potential to ever succeed in anything. They post a gallery and suddenly they are blingin adult webmasters. And now that school is out, its just going to get worse around here.
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its just a big waste of time NOT having them on ignore
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Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
No it isn't. And as difficult as it might be, the ONLY way to truly deal with cretins like this is to IGNORE THEM! They CRAVE the spotlight for whatever fucked up reason.
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the ONLY way to truly deal with cretins like this is to IGNORE THEM! They CRAVE the spotlight for whatever fucked up reason.
Are you talking about Juicy? To some he's jsut as annoying as retards. Understandably so
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Good post! I agree that a lot of people here really don't have a fucking clue. I personally feel that if you bash someone, although maybe fun at the time, will come back to haunt you at the time that you could really need some help. Karma is a bitch!

As far as the comment on the people that only make a few bucks as a hobby, well I kinda agree. But, looking at myself: I've got a job I like, and of course, given the chance I would do adult fulltime. So right now I'm just saving. Every signup, every penny I make of this, I don't spend a thing of it, besides on some content now and then. I'll wait untill I have plenty of cash, and them I'll start fulltime with a BANG!
The times of getting in with nothing and getting rich in a week are over. You gotta thing of this as a business. That means: investment, a businessplan, and a proffessional way of communicating with your network.

Anyway, just my (sorry for the spelling)

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It has always puzzled me that people would rather spend their time fighting on a message board when they could be picking up some of that cash on the table and living any lifestyle they desire.
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Just a thought, but perhaps having access to the board cost a small monthly fee would eliminate 90% of the problem.

I think closing new signups would be unfair, but perhaps only charging for those who signed up after _x_ date would be a nice idea.
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I try as much as possible to stay out of the drama on here. If a friend is being attacked I will jump in however.
Creative and the other idiots can start as many useless threads as they want. I'll still be out there trying to make the money they are ignoring.
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Agreed !

Any chance of splitting the GFY board into more forums, a 'lounge' for general banter etc would free up the board for discussing biz issues..
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Just a thought, but perhaps having access to the board cost a small monthly fee would eliminate 90% of the problem.

I think closing new signups would be unfair, but perhaps only charging for those who signed up after _x_ date would be a nice idea.

I think the way Lensman has it right now makes him a shit load of money









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uh oh someone got on KRL's badside tonight. but yeah there's a ton of info available here if you just use it.
did you ever think that one of the only ppl other than pimpdog, juicy, amp, or boneprone that could stir this much shit is Sleazy himself?
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I think there is a time for work and a time for play. A lot of people just come here to play. I personally do both, but I couldn't agree more with your statement. There are a few people that I reach out to, but off the board (ICQ) that are almost always ready and willing to help. It's all a matter of respect.
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What you say is true, but sometimes the help factor here is quite low...at least on the board. Perhaps a personal dialogue in ICQ is better for getting infos and help in the biz!
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Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.
Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.
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that should apply on some of these milionars too.
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Yeh obviously, but clearly bashing sleazy with patently offensive words isn't marketing and isn't cool.
same words you should apply on him, he is bashing hell lot more people here....
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You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here. There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.

Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.

Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.

If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too.
So true all I do here is trying to pick your guys brain..... But it is hard sometimes with all the bull there is here sometime

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what pisses me off is the lack of respect for (some) people here
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Very good points, KRL. However, some of the apparent bashing/'drama' you see here are sometimes underhanded marketing
Yes they are being paid $0.50 a post by their banner owner.

I would say that the majority of the people who KTL is talking about are not really in business. I employed a guy to design and post TGPs for two months, the guy never stopped working. He definitely did not have time to post on message boards.

Look at the post count of these guys. WTF do they do to earn money?
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Excellent post KRL!

It seems that the majority of the bashing that goes on happens between people who have similar business interests. Designers bashing designers comes to mind first. People don't seem to realize that when you bash someone you're not making the bashee look bad...you're making yourself look bad. Simple immaturity.

And for those who don't know, KRL is one of the big dogs...if he speaks, listen. You might learn something. And don't be jealous of Marc De...learn what you can from him...he's a brilliant business man.

I spend about 95% of my time here reading, learning. I only post when I feel like having a little fun. As with anything in life, have your ears open in the appropriate relation to your mouth...at least 2:1. Otherwise you're just not learning a damn thing.

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That's true WG.

Right on.
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Old 05-30-2004, 04:44 AM   #47
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that should apply on some of these milionars too.
Very good point, some of the newbies come here, see the posts by some guys with 5K or more and think it's acceptable behavour to act like a clown.
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Old 05-30-2004, 04:45 AM   #48
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Already try todo that

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Old 05-30-2004, 04:48 AM   #49
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Awesome point, charly
I've got staff running around me working, so I can do the marketing and managing. In three years I'm stillnot at 10K, some of these bozzos hit that in under a year.
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Old 05-30-2004, 04:49 AM   #50
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You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here. There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.

Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy.

Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks.

If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too.
Thats a very intrested point of view here KRL. But i dont think anyone will listen to you. They all like to play around, spam with there ars sig or get $50 to put '' bdjuf ownz me '' in there sig. I think you or we cant help it anymore.

Just like Trax said, Its time to close the signup form
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