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Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 12:14 PM

Price-Range around 24k nomore.

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 12:21 PM

bump..

Alltopnotch · 05-26-2004, 12:21 PM

get a 'maro...

Jeff aka NIGHTfall · 05-26-2004, 12:21 PM

what country you in?

Huggles · 05-26-2004, 12:23 PM

Toyota Supra Turbo

candyflip · 05-26-2004, 12:24 PM

For about $28k you can get a VW R32. Under $24k will get you a kickin' little GTi as well.

Screaming · 05-26-2004, 12:24 PM

depends on what you want, four door, two door, suv, sports car i mean tell us a lil more of what you would like

okny · 05-26-2004, 12:26 PM

Used or new?

SlickRick · 05-26-2004, 12:27 PM

Support America, Buy American...

Goose · 05-26-2004, 12:31 PM

change your sig...

Manowar · 05-26-2004, 12:32 PM

Depends on which country your in

LuvJen · 05-26-2004, 12:33 PM

VW Jetta 1.8T or VR6 both about 22-24k fully loaded

Jeff aka NIGHTfall · 05-26-2004, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles
Toyota Supra Turbo

great choice, but they not new anymore, and i doubt he wants to spend 20k+ on a used car... he could pick up a 94 turbo for like 12 though.

as someome already suggested, the VW R32 is a nice car,

but if in all honesty, no matter how bad i hate to admit this,

you want the sport feeling, handling, yet able to have headroom, 4doors and trunk space....

the Dodge Neon SRT-4

bitch is quick and is priced cheap, this kid around my town has one, he got the w/g removed and he boosts his turbo at near 30lbs of boost... its fucking quick..

Minte · 05-26-2004, 12:43 PM

The MiniCooperS...

as much fun as a guy can have with his clothes on

candyflip · 05-26-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LuvJen
VW Jetta 1.8T or VR6 both about 22-24k fully loaded

Great first post! Welcome to GFY

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 12:58 PM

Hey guy's, i am in california.
I am looking for a sport's car mainly a brand new one or a 2002 one.
Send me some links to look at.

Vitasoy · 05-26-2004, 01:15 PM

How about a used 350z, they go for around that price range... 26K for a new one though.

StRoGE · 05-26-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
How about a used 350z, they go for around that price range... 26K for a new one though.

candyflip · 05-26-2004, 01:22 PM

VW VW VW VW VW VW VW
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...icle_693.shtml

The R32- a 911 in a box.

I?ve always owned VWs, specifically Golfs and GTIs, but I?ve also spent my fair share of time in and around rather more exotic machines. Of all the cars to which I?ve been exposed, the one that I?ve always felt represented the best all around sports car is the Porsche 911, specifically the last of the air-cooled Porsches - the 993. The 993 in naturally aspirated form is blessed with appropriate power, balanced handling, and excellent brakes. The seating position is rather upright, contrary to the sports car norm, affording the driver an excellent view of the road and surrounding traffic. The back seats are somewhat functional, at least on a short-term basis, and the front storage compartment holds more than most would believe.

After spending a few days behind the wheel of the Golf R32, I couldn?t help but draw similarities between it and a Porsche 993. In fact from the driver?s seat (which with its shoulder-supporting wings and deep, deep bolsters would itself be right at home in the 993), it?s very easy to forget that the R32 is actually a Golf. The driver is also treated to what may be the best steering wheel ever to come out of Germany, its three spokes reaching out to a leather-wrapped rim of a most satisfying girth. The view through the steering wheel reveals a very purposeful gauge cluster, trimmed in silver rings for added effect. The R32 appears to be all about the business of driving, and that?s without even starting the engine.

A quick turn of the key fires up the 3.2-liter VR6 engine, which sounds sexier than any Golf should have the right to. The deep note of the dual exhaust can be played from idle and all the way to redline in all six of the gears, turning the gas pedal into a musical instrument. For added orchestral excitement, try a heel-and-toe downshift; the pedal arrangement and gear ratios seem to be made for this.

The biggest-yet VR6 creates plenty of torque down low, making even second-gear starts a painless affair. The 24-valve engine keeps pulling all the way through the RPMs until the power falls off softly as the rev limiter takes over. The only bump in the otherwise smooth powerband is the slight dip at around 4000 RPM, when the variable intake manifold apparently takes effect.

All of the power (240 horses according to VW) gets distributed between each of the four wheels via the R32?s 4-Motion all-wheel-drive system. The 4-Motion system does far more than just provide power at the rear; it totally transforms the nature of the VR6 in the Golf. I?ll admit that I?ve never been a really big fan of combining this powerful-but-heavy engine in the standard front-drive platform. The issue has always been one of balance and control. Perhaps it?s the added overall weight, but the R32 chassis makes better use of the powerful six-cylinder engine than any front-drive Golf could ever do. The end result is an appropriately balanced car that handles very well, on-throttle or off, and without any drama.

To complete the performance picture, I must not forget the brakes, which on the R32 are the same massive discs, vented both front and rear, as on the Audi TT 3.2. Scrubbing speed in the R32 is never a problem, even after repeated hard stops. A day of continuous lapping at the Gingerman road course last year resulted in no fade at all, despite the 3400-lb weight of the car.

These are the qualities the R32 possesses which remind me so much of the 993. Some will no doubt argue that there are faster cars than the 993, and that is certainly true. The same will be said of the R32, appropriately so. But unlike so many of the ?faster cars? with which they will inevitably be compared, both the R32 and the 993 are practical everyday sports cars, lacking the temperamental nature of turbochargers, the impracticality of genuine supercars, and the Johnny-Law-attracting, boy-racer visual effects of the WRC pretenders.

Is the R32 a perfect car? No, but I?m willing to overlook the fact that it?s slightly overweight, lacks xenon headlamps, and sits a little higher than the European version. The fact is this is the best performance hatchback VW has ever built, and may be the only all-wheel-drive Golf we see in this country for a long time. It has all the necessary elements of a true driver?s car without anything ?extra? to take away from it.

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LuvJen
VW Jetta 1.8T or VR6 both about 22-24k fully loaded

that's a girl's car

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 03:13 PM

what about a mazda 3 or 6 ?

Mr Pheer · 05-26-2004, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
How about a used 350z, they go for around that price range... 26K for a new one though.

I like the looks of the 350z, but I didnt realize they were that cheap

Illicit · 05-26-2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
How about a used 350z, they go for around that price range... 26K for a new one though.

definately a good pick... worth an extra 2k to get over anything else in that range

Mr Pheer · 05-26-2004, 03:17 PM

You can get a MazdaSpeed turbo protege for a little under that price range. Has a wing on it, tubo, white faced guages, sparco shifter, cool sony MP3 player and a sub & good speakers. Racing wheels and some factory ground effects, sport seats and those cool drilled aluminum pedals.

I had one till I broke my knee and couldnt drive it anymore. Was a fun car to drive.

DesignWise · 05-26-2004, 03:21 PM

The New MAZDA is definetely HOT

jackson · 05-26-2004, 03:22 PM

yea the 350z's are real fuggin hot they're stock exhaust sounds so crispyy

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 03:23 PM

which new mazda ?
I dont like the mazdaspeed

DutchTeenCash · 05-26-2004, 03:30 PM

wonder why you guys all pick a r32 i mean its a golf, there are 10000000s of golf here in holland they even sell fake r32 plates, plus the insurance is SKYhigh

stupid dutch tax they wont go lower then 40k here grrr

http://zoek.autotrader.nl/cgi-bin/ad...&did=100097 0

im a sucker for the naviplus though wonder if they have a hot chick version too hehe

axelcat · 05-26-2004, 03:32 PM

how about you fix your sig

aaron · 05-26-2004, 03:32 PM

subaru wrx

VeriSexy · 05-26-2004, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
How about a used 350z, they go for around that price range... 26K for a new one though.

Yup, that's a damn nice car

bizmak · 05-26-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by axelcat
how about you fix your sig

yes, and then get a subaru impreza wrx

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 04:09 PM

I think i'm going with a mazda 3

cayne · 05-26-2004, 04:17 PM

BMW, perhaps you get a M (used).

Here's mine:

You can't invest your money better !

Esp. the sound is awesome - sounds like flying a boeing or st like that

tony286 · 05-26-2004, 04:21 PM

used lincoln town car a livingroom on wheels.

samuel · 05-26-2004, 04:25 PM

Mini is good choice!!

Samuel

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 04:27 PM

Mini Cooper ?
I read about it, they say it doesn't have much room for comfort, etc and if you got in a accident with that car your owned.

PissFunny · 05-26-2004, 05:06 PM

subaru WRX goes for around that in the states. i got one here in australia

Minte · 05-26-2004, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaldoray
Mini Cooper ?
I read about it, they say it doesn't have much room for comfort, etc and if you got in a accident with that car your owned.

i added a cooperS to my collection earlier this year.I'm 6' tall and there is plenty of room..the rear seats are more than adequate.The accident thing is relative.You can be driving an escalade and if you get smucked by a bus you are going to lose.The real upside of the MiniS is that it handles so well..you are able to avoid that accident easier than you would in most other cars in the price range.

TweetyBird · 05-26-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
VW VW VW VW VW VW VW
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...icle_693.shtml

The R32- a 911 in a box.

I?ve always owned VWs, specifically Golfs and GTIs, but I?ve also spent my fair share of time in and around rather more exotic machines. Of all the cars to which I?ve been exposed, the one that I?ve always felt represented the best all around sports car is the Porsche 911, specifically the last of the air-cooled Porsches - the 993. The 993 in naturally aspirated form is blessed with appropriate power, balanced handling, and excellent brakes. The seating position is rather upright, contrary to the sports car norm, affording the driver an excellent view of the road and surrounding traffic. The back seats are somewhat functional, at least on a short-term basis, and the front storage compartment holds more than most would believe.

After spending a few days behind the wheel of the Golf R32, I couldn?t help but draw similarities between it and a Porsche 993. In fact from the driver?s seat (which with its shoulder-supporting wings and deep, deep bolsters would itself be right at home in the 993), it?s very easy to forget that the R32 is actually a Golf. The driver is also treated to what may be the best steering wheel ever to come out of Germany, its three spokes reaching out to a leather-wrapped rim of a most satisfying girth. The view through the steering wheel reveals a very purposeful gauge cluster, trimmed in silver rings for added effect. The R32 appears to be all about the business of driving, and that?s without even starting the engine.

A quick turn of the key fires up the 3.2-liter VR6 engine, which sounds sexier than any Golf should have the right to. The deep note of the dual exhaust can be played from idle and all the way to redline in all six of the gears, turning the gas pedal into a musical instrument. For added orchestral excitement, try a heel-and-toe downshift; the pedal arrangement and gear ratios seem to be made for this.

The biggest-yet VR6 creates plenty of torque down low, making even second-gear starts a painless affair. The 24-valve engine keeps pulling all the way through the RPMs until the power falls off softly as the rev limiter takes over. The only bump in the otherwise smooth powerband is the slight dip at around 4000 RPM, when the variable intake manifold apparently takes effect.

All of the power (240 horses according to VW) gets distributed between each of the four wheels via the R32?s 4-Motion all-wheel-drive system. The 4-Motion system does far more than just provide power at the rear; it totally transforms the nature of the VR6 in the Golf. I?ll admit that I?ve never been a really big fan of combining this powerful-but-heavy engine in the standard front-drive platform. The issue has always been one of balance and control. Perhaps it?s the added overall weight, but the R32 chassis makes better use of the powerful six-cylinder engine than any front-drive Golf could ever do. The end result is an appropriately balanced car that handles very well, on-throttle or off, and without any drama.

To complete the performance picture, I must not forget the brakes, which on the R32 are the same massive discs, vented both front and rear, as on the Audi TT 3.2. Scrubbing speed in the R32 is never a problem, even after repeated hard stops. A day of continuous lapping at the Gingerman road course last year resulted in no fade at all, despite the 3400-lb weight of the car.

These are the qualities the R32 possesses which remind me so much of the 993. Some will no doubt argue that there are faster cars than the 993, and that is certainly true. The same will be said of the R32, appropriately so. But unlike so many of the ?faster cars? with which they will inevitably be compared, both the R32 and the 993 are practical everyday sports cars, lacking the temperamental nature of turbochargers, the impracticality of genuine supercars, and the Johnny-Law-attracting, boy-racer visual effects of the WRC pretenders.

Is the R32 a perfect car? No, but I?m willing to overlook the fact that it?s slightly overweight, lacks xenon headlamps, and sits a little higher than the European version. The fact is this is the best performance hatchback VW has ever built, and may be the only all-wheel-drive Golf we see in this country for a long time. It has all the necessary elements of a true driver?s car without anything ?extra? to take away from it.

R32 rocks

sweet7 · 05-26-2004, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
For about $28k you can get a VW R32. Under $24k will get you a kickin' little GTi as well.

The Dawg · 05-26-2004, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jackson
yea the 350z's are real fuggin hot they're stock exhaust sounds so crispyy

They look nice, but the metal on my toaster is thicker than the door panel on those things.

Dildozer · 05-26-2004, 05:21 PM

Try all the cars you can!!!

Trying cars is half the fun of buying a new car!

Chaldoray · 05-26-2004, 05:44 PM

So a mini cooperS or mazda 3 ?

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	VW VW VW VW VW VW VW http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...icle_693.shtml The R32- a 911 in a box. I?ve always owned VWs, specifically Golfs and GTIs, but I?ve also spent my fair share of time in and around rather more exotic machines. Of all the cars to which I?ve been exposed, the one that I?ve always felt represented the best all around sports car is the Porsche 911, specifically the last of the air-cooled Porsches - the 993. The 993 in naturally aspirated form is blessed with appropriate power, balanced handling, and excellent brakes. The seating position is rather upright, contrary to the sports car norm, affording the driver an excellent view of the road and surrounding traffic. The back seats are somewhat functional, at least on a short-term basis, and the front storage compartment holds more than most would believe. After spending a few days behind the wheel of the Golf R32, I couldn?t help but draw similarities between it and a Porsche 993. In fact from the driver?s seat (which with its shoulder-supporting wings and deep, deep bolsters would itself be right at home in the 993), it?s very easy to forget that the R32 is actually a Golf. The driver is also treated to what may be the best steering wheel ever to come out of Germany, its three spokes reaching out to a leather-wrapped rim of a most satisfying girth. The view through the steering wheel reveals a very purposeful gauge cluster, trimmed in silver rings for added effect. The R32 appears to be all about the business of driving, and that?s without even starting the engine. A quick turn of the key fires up the 3.2-liter VR6 engine, which sounds sexier than any Golf should have the right to. The deep note of the dual exhaust can be played from idle and all the way to redline in all six of the gears, turning the gas pedal into a musical instrument. For added orchestral excitement, try a heel-and-toe downshift; the pedal arrangement and gear ratios seem to be made for this. The biggest-yet VR6 creates plenty of torque down low, making even second-gear starts a painless affair. The 24-valve engine keeps pulling all the way through the RPMs until the power falls off softly as the rev limiter takes over. The only bump in the otherwise smooth powerband is the slight dip at around 4000 RPM, when the variable intake manifold apparently takes effect. All of the power (240 horses according to VW) gets distributed between each of the four wheels via the R32?s 4-Motion all-wheel-drive system. The 4-Motion system does far more than just provide power at the rear; it totally transforms the nature of the VR6 in the Golf. I?ll admit that I?ve never been a really big fan of combining this powerful-but-heavy engine in the standard front-drive platform. The issue has always been one of balance and control. Perhaps it?s the added overall weight, but the R32 chassis makes better use of the powerful six-cylinder engine than any front-drive Golf could ever do. The end result is an appropriately balanced car that handles very well, on-throttle or off, and without any drama. To complete the performance picture, I must not forget the brakes, which on the R32 are the same massive discs, vented both front and rear, as on the Audi TT 3.2. Scrubbing speed in the R32 is never a problem, even after repeated hard stops. A day of continuous lapping at the Gingerman road course last year resulted in no fade at all, despite the 3400-lb weight of the car. These are the qualities the R32 possesses which remind me so much of the 993. Some will no doubt argue that there are faster cars than the 993, and that is certainly true. The same will be said of the R32, appropriately so. But unlike so many of the ?faster cars? with which they will inevitably be compared, both the R32 and the 993 are practical everyday sports cars, lacking the temperamental nature of turbochargers, the impracticality of genuine supercars, and the Johnny-Law-attracting, boy-racer visual effects of the WRC pretenders. Is the R32 a perfect car? No, but I?m willing to overlook the fact that it?s slightly overweight, lacks xenon headlamps, and sits a little higher than the European version. The fact is this is the best performance hatchback VW has ever built, and may be the only all-wheel-drive Golf we see in this country for a long time. It has all the necessary elements of a true driver?s car without anything ?extra? to take away from it. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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