All this does is like KRL says, make the US look like a total hypocrite and destroy credibility. not to mention you can be sure the Iraqi's will fuck up the POWs even more so now.

<font size=5>Oh excuse me while I shed a little tiny tear..</font>

this is a disgrace... Saddam was bad for his country, but is this better?

that's just wrong. :(

How can you even argue the fact that the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is not the strongest and most superior Nation in the World?

I'm sure many people around the world feel much better now.

I am quite sure I hate arabs more than most of you people, but I have my personal reasons. I don't understand how you just cannot see the other side of the story.

Well, this war was about liberating the Iraqi people, so i would think the soldiers should be trying a little harder to avoid forcing the iraqi's to perform oral on each other and using them as dog food. But im no soldier.

They just showed a tv interview with one of the reporters who took the pics. Said that he had before shots with the dogs and after shots of the dogs biting the prisoner and having the POW in a pool of his own blood. Absolutely sad to see things like this happening.

WG

This happens in any war.

It just did not reach the broad media like in this case,
thats all.

:2 cents:


S.

Its disapointing what some of the soldiers did, but if we didnt have a Jerry Springer type mentality in the media, these pictures would have never been released. Lots worse stuff happend in previous wars.

Its easy to sit in a comfortable living room and get on a high horse, but these people are over there, putting their life on the line against extremists that have no value for life. The type that lit a civillian convoy on fire and then mutilated the charred corpses. :2 cents:

You are a fucking moron...
Go back to the real world, you don´t know a shit.

agreed.

It seems you understand the 'big picture'.

S.

Superior? In what way? How they treat other people? I think this proves that is false....

And the military perhaps? You may want to look a China's military stats.......

Silence fool! Hater.

Did he explain the complete scenery?

Was this on TV or can you share a link / source?

Thanx,
Steve

You have to understand that we are fighting people that do not have rules! For God's sake they raise there children to become suicide bombers! So how can we play by the rules when the objectives don't? Really how do you do it? It is almost impossible. These US Soldiers have to worry about any child walking by them for fear of them having a bomb attached to there bodies! That is fucking scary! And you know what probably most of those Prisoners in the pictures have children that they are teaching to hate and kill so shame on them. You don't teach children that shit. To me there really is no rules or Geneva Convention in war, you get what you get and you do what you have to, to stay alive and win.

Why exactly is this picture fucked up? For all you know he was trying to escape and the dogs cornered him. The one guy is ordering him to get on the ground and he doesnt seem to be complying. They have the dogs held back.

Quote:

http://www.newyorker.com/images/onli...on_04_p350.jpg

Alright I'll agree, this one is fucked up. But it was also one of the first pics released. There could be another story though. Maybe theres a guard on the bottom of that pile that they are beating? Long shot, but we cant get the whole story from these pics.

Quote:

http://www.newyorker.com/images/onli...on_07_p350.jpg

Alright show me an american soldier in this picture. As if this doesnt happen in EVERY prison. We dont know someone is forcing them to do this. The guy has his hands on the other dudes head. Maybe its sexual, or maybe hes taking off the mask.

Quote:

http://www.newyorker.com/images/onli...on_10_p350.jpg

Looks like he was injured somehow (could have been in battle) and they are just icing him down. Damn nice thing to do if the guy is sore if you ask me.

You guys need to stop assuming until the story behind the pics is explained. :winkwink:

Ahh.. you see that on tv do you? That means everyone in america is slim, has big tits, is rich and lives in beverly hills. I see that on tv.

your all making way to big of a deal name one war where our pow's were treated fair? never... you don't see us draging saddams sons thorough the streets behind a car... they get what they deserve...

I live in the Real World which is a 1st World Country the US of the muthafucking A. Shut your mouth in your 3rd World Country or 2nd World Country at best fucktard!:321GFY

Danny under Saddam's regime if you even looked sideways you disappeared.

Yes most of these guys are probably former Republican Guards, and I'm sure many saw action in Kuwait and did atrocious stuff as well, however they did what they did under the command and orders of Saddam. They had to do those horrific acts or they would be killed and tortured themselves.

This is the point I'm making. Our soldiers aren't doing this under duress. That takes it to a whole different level unless indeed it was ordered and authorized by higher ups in Washington which I'm beginning to believe is the real truth here since its now being found to be widespread in more than this one prison.

Me, but it was in Somalia. And we didnt do shit like that, we pretty much tried to help them till they started killing us... then we pretty much mowed down anyone that was carrying a weapon after that.

No im not saying that, but how many American Suicide Bombing's have you seen?

Dude you have a vivid imagination if this is what you truly see from these pics.

:1orglaugh

i wonder if you would have said the same thing if they were Jews...
you're fucking sick

Somalia? My hats off to you for enduring that place. That was another one that was pretty nasty for our guys in uniform.

It was on TV. He was from the news agency, not the original photographer and explained they had pics of the dogs scaring the guy and then of him in his own blood. He said it was pretty obvious what happened between the two pics but he never said specifically that the dogs did it although he surely hinted at it.

WG

Understood:thumbsup But why are thes assholes still shooting and killing US Soldiers when we freed them from this Tyrant? Ingrates?

I don't see anything terrible happening. They are naked, but they're not doing anything sexual or getting hurt in the pictures (sure, the bj shot but he has a bag on his head, and the cheerleader tripod thing). Looks like they're just priming them for interrigation.

I remember Jessica Lynch in the hospital bed, and not posing nude or giving head to some Iraqi... have you seen any images of US soldiers like that?

What guns? I have not seen very many prisons/jails where guns were used in general population

I still think Bush will be re-elected. This will only hurt him momentarily.

Just wait till the trial of Saddam starts if you want to see some spin at it's finest.

You are the fucktard
I lived in more countries than you (since it looks like you are always at home watching Fox News)
I lived in Haiti, France, Spain and USA. So :321GFY .
You dont know a shit what you´re talking about, you are a fucking ignorant living under a rock.

Bah. Not what I ment, I'm sure you realized that I had a point to make in the post.

I missed this one.
Well, extreme situations mean extreme actions. Remember the kamikaze bombers.. are japanese savages?

you would have to live in Muslim country to understand that.. they don't need you democracy.. how many Muslin nations do you know that has democracy? It's just like Indians in N. America or S. America.. they don't need TV or VCRs to be happy.. their religion teaches submission... live with it and leave them alone...

wow nasty pics....

Well Saddam was Saddam like in any dictatorship or organized crime operation and you have very powerful and ultra wealthy businessmen behind the scenes controlling things and the real power in these countries.

Those guys are still intact and want their power base back. All the guys that lived well off Saddam's inner circle want that money and lifestyle again. Somebody with a lot of money has to be financing all these insurgents. These insurgents are not wealthy looking so someone is supplying them with weapons and ammunition and that takes money and power to move supplies discreetly.

They got Saddam, but the US obviously hasn't not gotten the power and money guys that were behind yet.

Uh Yeah whatever, shut up!

Yep for sure.

Sorry but if I had a fucker who had possibly killed one of my friends I would fuck that bitch up so bad!

Um, she was raped in case you forgot.

The sex was simulated... he's got a fucking bag on his head for christsakes.

To deal with people that would rather die and meet Allah than talk you have to demean them the worst way possible and break them.

And using dogs, women and homosexuality are the perfect tools to use with this particular group of people.

Do you remember her saying in her interview when she got home that she was almost positive that she was raped? Dip Shit!

on the ground, in battle. sure you do what you have to do. this is a prison, these ppl are not threats. there is no excuse for this. you can be sure once these guys get home, if they do they will have a lot more hate for america and americans and things will only get worse as the cycle continues.

this is true

This situation isnt much different, except that the Iraqis are much better soldiers than the Somalis were. Nobody ever wins in urban combat. Civilians getting killed and snipers everywhere, plus the Iraqis arent wearing uniforms so who do you shoot at? Obviously you cant just level the city, but thats the only way to win.

"One particularly heavy blow caught me on the jaw, directly over my teeth. Only the skin of my cheek lay between the edge of the butt (of the rifle striking him) and two of my back molars. I felt the teeth crack and splinter, and then the pain of it hit me. I was down and screaming my head off. I tried to spit out the fragments, but my mouth was too swollen and numb. I couldn't swallow. The moment my tongue touched the sharp tend stumps of what remained of my teeth I passed out".

This little bit is from a book called Bravo Two Zero, written by Andy McNab. This is what the Iraqis did to him after they captured him behind the lines in 1991.

you can't be THAT FUCKING STUPID... oh yes.. you can ... :321GFY
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in582204.shtml

"He said Lynch was fully clothed with her field jacket buttoned up. "Her clothes were not torn, buttons had not come off, her pants were zipped up," al-Saeidi said.

Al-Saeidi said he found no signs of rape during an examination although he acknowledged he was not looking for any signs of sexual assault. "

I spent some time in Haiti. The people were very friendly, but overall the country is a fuckin filthy shit hole.

Actually.. now that I think about this comment I made, I suddenly remembered how the usa ended that war.

This is an innocent pic, probably all the chairs were taken and the soldier was tired

http://thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_...d_60min2-o.jpg