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Old 04-22-2004, 11:29 PM   #1
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Armed Airline Pilots LOL

Anyone watching this on CNN?

Showing how the Dept. of Homeland Security is training pilots to use guns. They showed them all on the shooting range with pistols standing only about 3 feet away from the targets.

You got to be a really bad shooter to miss at that distance.



I still don't think its a good idea for pistols to be firing with all the passengers directly in the line of fire.
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:30 PM   #2
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omg do not give them guns up there... just put them thru riguous MMA training
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:34 PM   #3
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drunk and armed.
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:37 PM   #4
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Guns in an airplane?!
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Old 04-23-2004, 12:00 AM   #5
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it'll be conair all over again
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Old 04-23-2004, 12:03 AM   #6
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it'll be conair all over again
Great movie!
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:20 AM   #7
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it'll be conair all over again

I've seen that one too! Quite a scene if you ask me!
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:35 AM   #8
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guns on a plane is definatley a bad idea
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:39 AM   #9
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Why guns? How about something that can't make a hole in the plane. Like a tazer or something
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:41 AM   #10
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OMG what airline is using those pilots.

Gotta know who to avoid!
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:45 AM   #11
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Not hitting the civilians should be the last concert during a flight... it should be not hitting the plane and puncturing it. Putting a hole in a plane with that kind of pressure can kill everyone on board
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Old 04-23-2004, 02:18 AM   #12
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I would think that there would be a greater risk of a hijack with armed pilots.

Hijacker's will only have to get the gun from the cock pit. Inside job could do this.

While it might not be so easy for a arab on a suicide mission. It wouldnt be impossible for a regular ransom hijacking.
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Old 04-23-2004, 02:54 AM   #13
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OMG what airline is using those pilots.

Gotta know who to avoid!
Stop flying then, the pilots that are packing are a very closely guarded secret. The pilots take the same course as the Federal Air Marshals take, on top of that, there are a number of hoops the pilots must jump through even to take the classes.

Now as far as the fear of a rapid decompression from a bullet piercing the cabin, the best information about Air Marshal ammo is they're using frangible bullets. (Likely a 80-grain projectile with a compressed core of No. 6 shot) which scatter pellets into the wound channel, causing massive blood loss, shock and death.

It will spoil your whole day getting hit by one.
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Old 04-23-2004, 02:59 AM   #14
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Of course it will not make hijacking EASIER.

If it makes a pilot feel ANY safer to be armed, all the power to them. You're already putting your life in their hands, trusting them with a gun is hardly that much of a leap.

Besides, cockpit doors are locked now. You can't loiter outside them, even to wait for a washroom either. IF someone got through the door, and the pilot had to fire on them .. I'd say do it, passengers are a secondary concern.

Used to be pilots put passengers before everything else. That's why standard procedure was to hand over a plane to hijackers, and do what they demanded.

No longer is this the case. In fact, as we've seen, a plane can kill a whole lot more people than just those on board. I say the new policy is good.

All passengers should be aware that hijackers will not be handed any more planes .. If you're on a plane, and something goes down .. It's in your own self interest to stop it form happening, at all costs.
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Old 04-23-2004, 02:59 AM   #15
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Forget the guns.. Just put taser triggered doors on the cockpit. Get a code wrong.. BZZZZZ you're knocked out cold. Try forcing your way in.. BZZZZZ you can't pee for a week. Only when the plane is on the ground, can they be deactivated by the control tower or pilots.

If that's too expensive, hire private security personnel.. you know, ex-seals undercover. Kinda like how El-Al does. Don't see anymore hijackings on those planes since then.
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Old 04-23-2004, 03:08 AM   #16
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Guns and airplanes? I don't think so!
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Old 04-23-2004, 04:24 AM   #17
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yep watched it...it's a good idea I think. Not only because of security reasons, but the pilots themselves can feel saver this way...
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