The Definitive thread: Are porn content models prostitutes?

[AMADude]

50 porn sluts.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by stephanie m.
You cannont lump all porn models together in one category! If a catwalk model is topless and video taped on the catwalk would that make her a prostitute? Is Charlize Theron a porn model becuase she has done topless scenes? If a girl does content with her boyfriend does that make her a whore?

I dont think so. Lumping everyone in the industry into the cheap whore category cheapens it, and I think its shameful! If industry entrepreneurs think that what we do as webmasters and models is shameful, just imagine what the general public thinks of us.

You cannot compare topless acting, nude modelling, cam girls or anyone else who is not having sex in exchange for money to a prostitute.

[Jace]

i fuck for money with my wife

we are whores

[Tommy behind tha Deuce]

Actually I personally don't care or have a problem if they are prostitutes.

We are all prostitutes in a way.

We all work hard for our money and the government scarfs up tons of our money in taxes in return.

We being the prostitutes and the government being the big brother pimp.

I call this monetary rape!!, and does anybody care, NO!

Just another angle on the prostitute issue.

I don't understand how CP or throwing the whole family came into the picture or maybe I missed something here.

So my point being it really doesnt matter, and if I were a girl then I guess I would be considered a prostitute and would have a good time doing it all the time....

In the end does it really matter?

We love lesbians, prostitutes and, well we just love it all.......

Women posses what man has always been seeking

[SABAI]

the sad thing is that pornstars are prostitutes ( wich is not a bad thing ) but they won't admit it , they would not even accept to have sex for money if there is no camera, a lot of them live in denial and even insult regular prostitutes when they come accros one. i have friends who are street or disco prostitutes and at least they have the guts to openly admit it and sometimes even are proud of it.
and Trixie i totally agree with you about the comment about married women who are prostitutes to their husbands .

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX




its funny to see some people not even be able to grasp this, even more funny that they consider themselves part of this industry when theyve have neither the experience or the maturity to deal with the realities of an industry or scene such as the LA porn scene.

We all know the realities...and the reality is continue to support this industry in such a negative light and it won't be around for you to do so.

[Tommy behind tha Deuce]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


We all know the realities...and the reality is continue to support this industry in such a negative light and it won't be around for you to do so.

Very well said eroswebmaster.

[Trixie Racer]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Look how the porngirls fuck and how often, surely a slut is a slut.

http://www.aim-med.org/Quarantine.html

13 guys in 9 days, DONT YOU CALL ME A SLUT!!!!!!

hahaha

I always love reading your posts. I rarely ever use the term "keeping it real", but your posts do just that.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by Huggles
WTF?

Yes. Don't believe it? I swear, I should go undercover to reveal what really goes on in the "RESPECTABLE" film industry in Hollywood. It would just blow you away. Blatant solicitation of prostitution daily. I could name you many a job that I didn't get as a model because I refused to sleep with the MALE employee of that company. If you doubt me, that you are more Naive than I was when I got to Hollywood 15 years ago.

[sherie]

Originally posted by Edguy!
I agree that everyone has their price...

Some are just higher than others...

I tend to agree more than I disagree.

So by some of the logic I have seen here this would constitute as prostitution; you go out and buy your gf a new ring let's say and she gives you the best sex of your life, is she a "whore" or "prostitute?" You go and buy some girl a drink at the bar and she sexes you up after, did you just ended up with the cheapest hooker out there? LOL

Who cares, it comes down to respect. No one should just be called "content" because that is what they provide. I don't see how the respect level changes when you are not in a position to judge. They supply it and we peddle it, not sure if one is really better than the other

[Gemini]

AFAIK, we're selling pictures, videos, Pay Per View, shirts, etc etc..


Welcome to the 21st Century... I don't remember the title but I read a book years ago that talked about the diseases and such that would somehow change prostitution... The author didn't totally discuss it except for robots - androids... might this not be a part of that?

The purpose of a prostitute is to sexually release a person... I've YET to find a definition that it must involve physical touching in order to do that in the sense that you guys are using.

So in the strictest literal sense like you want to employ to benefit your arguement... you ARE pimping the girls.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by sherie
I tend to agree more than I disagree.

So by some of the logic I have seen here this would constitute as prostitution; you go out and buy your gf a new ring let's say and she gives you the best sex of your life, is she a "whore" or "prostitute?" You go and buy some girl a drink at the bar and she sexes you up after, did you just ended up with the cheapest hooker out there? LOL

Who cares, it comes down to respect. No one should just be called "content" because that is what they provide. I don't see how the respect level changes when you are not in a position to judge. They supply it and we peddle it, not sure if one is really better than the other

true...we webmasters are sooo much better than that girl taking a load of cum in her mouth for $100 because all we do is spread it across the internet as much as we can to make 10x's that.
[sarcasm for the functionally retarded and hypocritical]

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


We all know the realities...and the reality is continue to support this industry in such a negative light and it won't be around for you to do so.

This isn't an attack on the industry and how you could see it as such I probably will never know but I can guess at it.

My guess is this, you want to make the prostitutes seem like they're not just that because of what the name implies but yet the reality of the situation is just that.

If I have AIDS and I don't admit I have AIDS does that mean I do not have AIDS?

You know, an ostrich sticks its head in the ground when it gets scared thinking the scared it cannot see it... You can probably guess what would happen to that ostrich if what it is hiding from is flesh eating animal.

IF you dont like the fact that the business is supported by prostitutes (people who exchange sexual acts for money) maybe it is about time you got out of it.

[Trixie]

Originally posted by Huggles



I wonder what that makes me?


I don't mind being in this business, but I would never, ever, be able to star in porn myself, or date anyone that would. I wouldn't want any of my friends or family doing double anal scenes.

Double anal scenes make me cringe too. Is it possible to talk about selling sex in general without equating every sex-for-money transaction with the most extreme act(s) you can think of?

As far as what it makes you, to SELL the stuff but think you are in a class above the content, "leech" seems a suitable label to put on your business cards.

[Huggles]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Yes. Don't believe it? I swear, I should go undercover to reveal what really goes on in the "RESPECTABLE" film industry in Hollywood. It would just blow you away. Blatant solicitation of prostitution daily. I could name you many a job that I didn't get as a model because I refused to sleep with the MALE employee of that company. If you doubt me, that you are more Naive than I was when I got to Hollywood 15 years ago.

No, sadly, I believe you. My friend had two gay guys joking about raping him while on a job for the film industry in Vancouver. He swears it's "all controlled by fags, pimps, and the mafia"


His words!

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by notjoe


This isn't an attack on the industry and how you could see it as such I probably will never know but I can guess at it.

My guess is this, you want to make the prostitutes seem like they're not just that because of what the name implies but yet the reality of the situation is just that.

If I have AIDS and I don't admit I have AIDS does that mean I do not have AIDS?

You know, an ostrich sticks its head in the ground when it gets scared thinking the scared it cannot see it... You can probably guess what would happen to that ostrich if what it is hiding from is flesh eating animal.

IF you dont like the fact that the business is supported by prostitutes (people who exchange sexual acts for money) maybe it is about time you got out of it.

buy a clue.

[Huggles]

Originally posted by Trixie


As far as what it makes you, to SELL the stuff but think you are in a class above the content, "leech" seems a suitable label to put on your business cards.

Did I ever say I was above them? Please, point it out if I ever said that.

Read what I wrote again.

If NOT wanting any of my family, friends, girlfriend, or even myself in porn = me being "above" it, so be it. I choose not to smoke, and I think it's a foul habit. I don't believe I'm "above" smokers, I just choose to keep it out of my life. I wouldn't want my friends or family to smoke. My girlfriend does, and I encourage her to stop. Unlike porn, cigarettes aren't that "extreme" as to make me want to dump her for smoking. If she did porn, I couldn't date her.


Please, if you still feel I have some sort of superiority complex, let me know.

[Peter Romero]

If I'm a whore for performing in porn... then everyone who takes a percentage from me are my pimps. Therefore - all of my affiliates, my gallery listers, paid advertising spots and most of all - my CC processers (if they could get their sites up) are prostituting me. All I can say to that is - THANKS PIMP MAC DADDY'S!!!

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Gemini
AFAIK, we're selling pictures, videos, Pay Per View, shirts, etc etc..


Welcome to the 21st Century... I don't remember the title but I read a book years ago that talked about the diseases and such that would somehow change prostitution... The author didn't totally discuss it except for robots - androids... might this not be a part of that?

The purpose of a prostitute is to sexually release a person... I've YET to find a definition that it must involve physical touching in order to do that in the sense that you guys are using.

So in the strictest literal sense like you want to employ to benefit your arguement... you ARE pimping the girls.

As far as definitions go we are NOT pimps.. although i completely understand your point on this subject, while we may not be selling the girls directly we are selling them indirectly. We bring customers to a website to enjoy fantasy we do not bring them there to get laid by one of the girls who is on our site.
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/pimp


Now, for the prostitution thing, dictionary definition states that as long as sexual acts are exchanged for money that it is consider prostitution.
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/prostitution

[Trixie]

Originally posted by Huggles



Big difference.



Not much skill required to take a facial load, as opposed to winning a Stanley Cup. Not much intense training needed to develop a body required for porn, as opposed to a marathon runner.

I think that makes the athlete a BIGGER whore -- take someone aiming for the olympics. They get paid nothing, sacrifice their entire lives, wind up injuring themselves and get nothing out of the deal except a body destroyed and years wasted.

A few people have said they have more respect for a girl who would turn down hundreds of dollars for a couple hours of sex on film so she could instead "respectfully" spend 40 hours waitressing and being shit on by customers who are too cheap to tip. How noble and fucking stupid. I respect a girl putting herself through college by spreading her legs much more than one who wastes hours and hours in low paying jobs to preserve her "dignity". Fuck that.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


buy a clue.

Why spend money when i'm not the one who is out of touch with reality and what it is they are really doing in this business.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Huggles



No, sadly, I believe you. My friend had two gay guys joking about raping him while on a job for the film industry in Vancouver. He swears it's "all controlled by fags, pimps, and the mafia"


His words!

Minus the "fags" thing and he is just about right

[Trixie]

Originally posted by Huggles



Did I ever say I was above them? Please, point it out if I ever said that.

Read what I wrote again.

If NOT wanting any of my family, friends, girlfriend, or even myself in porn = me being "above" it, so be it. I choose not to smoke, and I think it's a foul habit. I don't believe I'm "above" smokers, I just choose to keep it out of my life. I wouldn't want my friends or family to smoke. My girlfriend does, and I encourage her to stop. Unlike porn, cigarettes aren't that "extreme" as to make me want to dump her for smoking. If she did porn, I couldn't date her.


Please, if you still feel I have some sort of superiority complex, let me know.

I still feel you have some sort of a superiority complex. And wtf? Smoking is WAY more extreme than porn unless you're talking about a snuff film. I held my dad's hand while he died of emphysema. You don't think that's extreme? I would rather find out he sucked donkey dong than have him dead.

If it's any consolation, I wouldn't date a girl who did double anal scenes either. I would love to see my boyfriend take two cocks up his ass though.

(just kidding).

[Huggles]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


true...we webmasters are sooo much better than that girl taking a load of cum in her mouth for $100 because all we do is spread it across the internet as much as we can to make 10x's that.
[sarcasm for the functionally retarded and hypocritical]

I suppose we are leeches.

[icu33774]

hum.. i wonder what the true story is behind notjoe post. I just find it funny he comes on a adult webmaster board flames all the females who do movies and content and considers them "whores"
and yet seems to collect the money yet he dont call him self a pimp. I think personaly he stuck his dick some were he should not and brought something home to the wife/girlfriend and cryin sour grapes now

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


We all know the realities...and the reality is continue to support this industry in such a negative light and it won't be around for you to do so.

Eros, why do you try and say crap like this?

Me calling a slut a slut is showing the industry in a negative light?

Nah, people who go to vegas and destroy hotel rooms do enough of that.

Calling a whitey a whitey aint no crime.

as i said, 13 guys in 9 days, but dont you dare call me a SLUT!!!!

[notjoe]

Originally posted by sherie
I tend to agree more than I disagree.

So by some of the logic I have seen here this would constitute as prostitution; you go out and buy your gf a new ring let's say and she gives you the best sex of your life, is she a "whore" or "prostitute?" You go and buy some girl a drink at the bar and she sexes you up after, did you just ended up with the cheapest hooker out there? LOL

No, you ended up with a complete slut..unless she hits you up for money before/after doing the dirty, at which point i'd tell her to fuck off.

Originally posted by sherie
Who cares, it comes down to respect. No one should just be called "content" because that is what they provide. I don't see how the respect level changes when you are not in a position to judge. They supply it and we peddle it, not sure if one is really better than the other [/B]

Agreed, i respect the girls for what they go through and have to do to earn a living but on the flip end of it, how much work do you think goes into peddling the porn? Without people selling the porn the girls would have no one paying them..

Respect doesnt change, this isnt about respecting porn stars more or less than "street workers" this is soley about the definition of a prostitute and them being one!

[Huggles]

Originally posted by Trixie

I think that makes the athlete a BIGGER whore -- take someone aiming for the olympics. They get paid nothing, sacrifice their entire lives, wind up injuring themselves and get nothing out of the deal except a body destroyed and years wasted.

Glory?


Accomplishments?


Somehow I believe winning the gold for Canada would be more fulfilling then taking a cock in the mouth.

A few people have said they have more respect for a girl who would turn down hundreds of dollars for a couple hours of sex on film so she could instead "respectfully" spend 40 hours waitressing and being shit on by customers who are too cheap to tip. How noble and fucking stupid. I respect a girl putting herself through college by spreading her legs much more than one who wastes hours and hours in low paying jobs to preserve her "dignity". Fuck that.

I will always respect those that take the hard way, over the easy way. It's like in Battlefield Vietnam. Guys who end up in the top 3 in score who use the M60 aren't impressive at all. Guys who end up there using the knife only are fucking impressive.


I have to respect the drive and will behind some people. My girlfriend works as a manager of a large retail store and is in school to become a doctor. She's an amazingly hard worker and I'm very, very motivated by her drive. She inspires me.


I think if she sucked cocks and didn't goto school, I wouldn't be so nearly impressed by her. I don't think she would be the same person.


Speaking of dignity:


I'll give you $500 paypal if you take a shit on camera and hahahahaha "Huggles fucking OWNS ME" on your tits.

Easy money. Do you want your own dignity more than my $500?

[Huggles]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Eros, why do you try and say crap like this?

Me calling a slut a slut is showing the industry in a negative light?

Nah, people who go to vegas and destroy hotel rooms do enough of that.

Calling a whitey a whitey aint no crime.

as i said, 13 guys in 9 days, but dont you dare call me a SLUT!!!!

[baddog]

Originally posted by notjoe


. . . . . i'll sit back here and stick to my dictionary definitions and what my morals tell me is right and wrong

whoa . . . I wasn't even going to read this thread, but am glad I did now.

Your morals tell you it is wrong what content does, yet you sell it?

How do you sleep at night? If I thought what I was doing was wrong, or that the people I was doing business with were doing something morally wrong I most certainly would not be in this line of work.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by icu33774
hum.. i wonder what the true story is behind notjoe post. I just find it funny he comes on a adult webmaster board flames all the females who do movies and content and considers them "whores"
and yet seems to collect the money yet he dont call him self a pimp. I think personaly he stuck his dick some were he should not and brought something home to the wife/girlfriend and cryin sour grapes now

You better keep your 2c before you need to pimp out your female friends..

1) I didnt flame anyone, if someone posts some bs to me and i respond with my own bs, well then, i guess i am flaming and so is everyone else in this thread.

2) I never directly said women only and never referred to men.. If you can find one single post where i said only the women is dirty then enlighten me to where i said this.

3) I consider anyone who sells sexual acts for money to be a prostitute and not just anyone in the film industry.

the rest of the points you've tried to make are pointless. I am faithful to my GF because I am in love with her and wouldnt cheat because i wouldnt want to hurt her and i've made a commitment to be faithful to her, and this is after 3 years in a relationship with her... but dont think for one second that i wouldnt dump her if she started doing pornos or fucking someone else.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by baddog


whoa . . . I wasn't even going to read this thread, but am glad I did now.

Your morals tell you it is wrong what content does, yet you sell it?

How do you sleep at night? If I thought what I was doing was wrong, or that the people I was doing business with were doing something morally wrong I most certainly would not be in this line of work.

What i said was this:

"By legal definition underaged preteen websites who display young children in skimpy clothes is not illegal...


You try to figure out how the law works when it comes to this shit and i'll sit back here and stick to my dictionary definitions and what my morals tell me is right and wrong"

So i say it is wrong to promote underaged model sites where preteens are next to being naked and you think that i am wrong?
Do you like those preteen sites? you must like them if you think i am wrong in thinking that they're bad.

[phogirl69]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Yes. Don't believe it? I swear, I should go undercover to reveal what really goes on in the "RESPECTABLE" film industry in Hollywood. It would just blow you away. Blatant solicitation of prostitution daily. I could name you many a job that I didn't get as a model because I refused to sleep with the MALE employee of that company. If you doubt me, that you are more Naive than I was when I got to Hollywood 15 years ago.

Are you a guy or a girl? I'm assuming you're a guy (according to your nickname) and and you were harassed to sleep with another male?

[notjoe]

Originally posted by baddog


whoa . . . I wasn't even going to read this thread, but am glad I did now.

Your morals tell you it is wrong what content does, yet you sell it?

How do you sleep at night? If I thought what I was doing was wrong, or that the people I was doing business with were doing something morally wrong I most certainly would not be in this line of work.

Sucks to be misquoted huh?

[Trixie]

Originally posted by Huggles



I will always respect those that take the hard way, over the easy way. It's like in Battlefield Vietnam. Guys who end up in the top 3 in score who use the M60 aren't impressive at all. Guys who end up there using the knife only are fucking impressive.


I have to respect the drive and will behind some people. My girlfriend works as a manager of a large retail store and is in school to become a doctor. She's an amazingly hard worker and I'm very, very motivated by her drive. She inspires me.


I think if she sucked cocks and didn't goto school, I wouldn't be so nearly impressed by her. I don't think she would be the same person.


Speaking of dignity:


I'll give you $500 paypal if you take a shit on camera and hahahahaha "Huggles fucking OWNS ME" on your tits.

Easy money. Do you want your own dignity more than my $500?

Dude, if you paid me $500 for that YOU'D be the one compromising your dignity, not me.

There are many whores who work very hard and have a lot of will, determination, drive, etc. They are MORE and do MORE than just the sex-for-money (take a look at those of us who produce our own content, ARE our own content, our own webmasters, build our own traffic, etc. and many times do so WITHOUT doing any extreme acts or hardcore at all). Your arguments rely on a sick idea that all whores are NOTHING more than a facial, or a double-anal scene, or shitting on cam, or whatever extreme act you can cook up.

In comparison to my job as a "whore" AND webmaster AND photographer/content producer AND marketing, YOUR job is the "easy" road. Looks like I'm the one holding the knife in Vietnam.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster



you prove my point right there.."you say this is whether porn should be legal or not"

Show me where prostitution is legal in the US..other than in brothels in Nevada.

If you call it prostitution...and then the courts decide to call it that..then it's not legal...get it?

It's not just about what California calls it...and since you can't seem to figure out important decisions ones that usually affect us positively come from the 9th circuit court in california you're pretty much useless to talk to.

I mispoke when i wrote that and that isnt exactly what i had ment.. This is about whether a porn star is a prostitute or not, plain and simple.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Trixie

Dude, if you paid me $500 for that YOU'D be the one compromising your dignity, not me.

There are many whores who work very hard and have a lot of will, determination, drive, etc. They are MORE and do MORE than just the sex-for-money (take a look at those of us who produce our own content, ARE our own content, our own webmasters, build our own traffic, etc. and many times do so WITHOUT doing any extreme acts or hardcore at all). Your arguments rely on a sick idea that all whores are NOTHING more than a facial, or a double-anal scene, or shitting on cam, or whatever extreme act you can cook up.

In comparison to my job as a "whore" AND webmaster AND photographer/content producer AND marketing, YOUR job is the "easy" road. Looks like I'm the one holding the knife in Vietnam.

hehehe

"web whore" bucks in your sig.

hehehe

[baddog]

Originally posted by notjoe


What i said was this:

"By legal definition underaged preteen websites who display young children in skimpy clothes is not illegal...


You try to figure out how the law works when it comes to this shit and i'll sit back here and stick to my dictionary definitions and what my morals tell me is right and wrong"

So i say it is wrong to promote underaged model sites where preteens are next to being naked and you think that i am wrong?
Do you like those preteen sites? you must like them if you think i am wrong in thinking that they're bad.

well, it did not take long, but you have convinced me that you are an idiot.

Congrats

[Tommy behind tha Deuce]

bottom line is, if it wasn't for these people you and I would not be making a living at it, now would we.

Seems as though you are all pissed off at the terminology used by yourself to describe people that create content and video's or are you just having a real fucked up day.

To buy,sell or create content and then turn around and slam people for it is hypocritical.

Remember to earn respect you have to give some.

If I was a model I wouldn't take the time to piss on your desk.

hope your day gets better

[dav555add]

Question is, both woman and man fucking on cam do it for money

[baddog]

Originally posted by notjoe


Sucks to be misquoted huh?

Sucks to be you. huh?

[Trixie]

Originally posted by The Wood

If I was a model I wouldn't take the time to piss on your desk.

Hey now! Huggles would pay good money for that!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by dav555add
Question is, both woman and man fucking on cam do it for money

never see guys complaining about being called "stunt cocks."

hahah

you people who see "whore" as a put down are CLEARLY the ones with issues.

i like sluts always have, so me calling someone a slut isnt bad.

look past the curve folks.

[TurboAngel]

What does it matter? I don't get how you can be fighting about this.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by phogirl69
Are you a guy or a girl? I'm assuming you're a guy (according to your nickname) and and you were harassed to sleep with another male?

Yes, I am POV Porn GUY. Unless that's a helava strap on on me on www.povporn.com . Welcome to the fashion biz baby... you are either a gay designer or a broke designer. And, yes, plenty of gay agents, casting directors, directors, producers, executives, bookers, studio heads, etc, etc... Why do you think everyone's name is "Babe"?

[notjoe]

Originally posted by baddog
well, it did not take long, but you have convinced me that you are an idiot.

Congrats

If me not agreeing with your unlogical way of thinking makes me an idiot so be it.

It's just such a shame that you feel so uncomfortable with the idea of supporting prostitution than you have to go against common sense.. maybe commonsense isnt one of your stronger points...who knows, i wish you luck with your incessive contentshopper.com spamming!

[notjoe]

Looks like commonsense has won in this thread... i think the poll speaks for itself.

[phogirl69]

Notjoe,

I agree to a point with what you are saying, but do you think the males who are fucking are prostitutes? What about the male stars like Rocco who fucked like 1,000 women? Are they studs or are they prostitutes too? If they both are prostitutes then it's all good, but there should be no double standards.

If you wouldn't want your girlfriend or sister to be a pornstar, how would you feel if your brother or son was one? Would it be any different or do you have double standards?

Also, I'm not content, but I do respect all models that are, I don't think any less of any of them. But if you are fucking 10 people in a week, I gotta say you are a slut whether you are male or female.

Men can be sluts too, I always refer to them as "male sluts"!

[Raf1]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Does it matter if they are or aren't?

exactly... who cares?

[cherrylula]

Originally posted by Trixie Racer
Thank you for bringing that up! IMHO, being a hooker or porn star is much better (and much more honest) than the woman who marries for money.

I think there are a few of them running around here somewhere too.