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Old 07-16-2004, 09:01 AM   #51
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Nah bro I meant Owned because of your response in this thread. The money owed to you is no joke and Shawn should pay you back
I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard times

I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
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I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard times

I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.

i might be wrong.
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i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.

i might be wrong.
this all only for $20k?
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gey grimshawn when you read this.

i am glad I never took you up on hanging with you.

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I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard times

I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?

you people wonder why you get scammed.

too fucking much sympathy.

this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.

fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.
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wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?

you people wonder why you get scammed.

too fucking much sympathy.

this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.

fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.
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i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.

i might be wrong.
Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it right

Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.

You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them

I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
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Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it right

Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.

You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them

I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
please wake up.

this is an OLD THREAD

03-25-2004 07:14 PM

this was when he was working you people.

he is STILL working you people.

jesus h christ, talk about delusion.
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Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it right

Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.

You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them

I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
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Funny though how everyone would crucify Hungryman, but for Shawn it's ok.

What a load of BS.
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wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?

you people wonder why you get scammed.

too fucking much sympathy.

this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.

fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.
Fletch,

Glad to see you have never been down on your luck and had to get money from a friend.

It's hard enough to come to grips with not being able to make things work but three times as hard to tell that friend you don't have the money to pay them back when you said you would.

By your definition then I'm a scammer too, cause I been there where I had to borrow from friends and it took me yrs to get where I could pay them back

I don't think Grim is a scammer...just in a fucked up situation
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Glad to see you have never been down on your luck and had to get money from a friend.

It's hard enough to come to grips with not being able to make things work but three times as hard to tell that friend you don't have the money to pay them back when you said you would.

By your definition then I'm a scammer too, cause I been there where I had to borrow from friends and it took me yrs to get where I could pay them back

I don't think Grim is a scammer...just in a fucked up situation
you make it sound like he borrowed money because he was down on his luck.

very generous way to twist the facts.

what did he get the money for, was it used for that purpose and where is he now?

he took the money and ran, and disappeared, and you want to think he is out saving his nickels to pay this debt off.

Im from the south and love Louis Armstrong too, but this aint no Wonderful World, and thats not whats happening.

he didnt ask for money because he was down, yuou know that I know that. Dont compare the two.

I cannot stand seeing people speak up for crooks, but i know why its being done, there is still hope for money.

i doubt the guy ever surfaces.

and if he did i would still avoid him and anyone he deals with.

simple as that.

i dont single anyone out. I stand real with it. and I rather not be caught up in shit like this.
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that's unfair, and unfounded IMO.

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you make it sound like he borrowed money because he was down on his luck.

very generous way to twist the facts.

what did he get the money for, was it used for that purpose and where is he now?

he took the money and ran, and disappeared, and you want to think he is out saving his nickels to pay this debt off.

Im from the south and love Louis Armstrong too, but this aint no Wonderful World, and thats not whats happening.

he didnt ask for money because he was down, yuou know that I know that. Dont compare the two.

I cannot stand seeing people speak up for crooks, but i know why its being done, there is still hope for money.

i doubt the guy ever surfaces.

and if he did i would still avoid him and anyone he deals with.

simple as that.

i dont single anyone out. I stand real with it. and I rather not be caught up in shit like this.
Well Fletch,

I'm from the south too...Jackson, MS infact

I also heard from him yesterday and know for a fact that he is down on his luck and can't find work...Can you say the same?

I don't think so!

You talk like he is living like a fucking king...well I know he is probably living out of his fuckin car Make for a real big scammer

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that's unfair, and unfounded IMO.

Geez Hank, you're making yourself look like quite the "mark".
You brought Hungry into this read the old treads including Vid's
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The thing is, WTF are we suppost to be posting about... We always tend to put our fuckign nose in someone elses business and to be honest it's not our fucking business and no one except the parties involved should be talking about it.

If I would not deal or juge people form what they did in their past and if they succeed or not or if they had problems... Hell I would not even deal with myself.

We all been threw thick and thin but this thread is not about that.

This thread is about a brother who went threw hard times reaching to his friends.

You guys are acting like a bunch of voyeurs getting off on someone elses life... You should get one of your own instead, it's much more exciting.



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You brought Hungry into this read the old treads including Vid's
Vid and Hungry both live within a stones throw from me. Both of them are friends of mine and I don't get into the middle of that particular situation.

But what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I ever fell on hard times, I wouldn't hatch a sceme to rip off my fellow webmasters and then disappear completely.

You say you talked to him yesterday?
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I also heard from him yesterday and know for a fact that he is down on his luck and can't find work...Can you say the same?

I don't think so!

You talk like he is living like a fucking king...well I know he is probably living out of his fuckin car Make for a real big scammer
Of course he's down on his luck now and can't find work. Everyone in this industry knows he's a thief and a scumbag.
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Is Grim still doing his chat board thing?
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Vid and Hungry both live within a stones throw from me. Both of them are friends of mine and I don't get into the middle of that particular situation.

But what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I ever fell on hard times, I wouldn't hatch a sceme to rip off my fellow webmasters and then disappear completely.

You say you talked to him yesterday?
Didn't say talked to him conversed via email. As for H and V I consider both friends as well and never had a problem with either...Just pointing out a difference from the stuff I read in the pass.

And not everybody can be that straight up when things go sour and we have more that one of those in this thread. Neither guy was that straight up when the shit hit the fan but you say one guy is ok and the other is a scammer. That's bs, IMHO
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Of course he's down on his luck now and can't find work. Everyone in this industry knows he's a thief and a scumbag.
But yeah,

All you guys thought he was the greatest thing in the world and couldn't wait to post in his thread when he worked for Max and was going to show and paying for suite parties out of his own pocket with the machines and shit...Now he's the dawg of the earth...How fickle this industry is and that's BS too
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Old thread bumping alert.

Is Grim still doing his chat board thing?
Nope...That got messed up in the mix

Who bumb this thread today anyway?
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But yeah,

All you guys thought he was the greatest thing in the world and couldn't wait to post in his thread when he worked for Max and was going to show and paying for suite parties out of his own pocket with the machines and shit...Now he's the dawg of the earth...How fickle this industry is and that's BS too
for the record this is not and was never anything personal.

i have read boneprone saying this guy was trying to get 1000s off people at conventions using Boneprones name, among other things.

this is nothing personal, buiness is business, dont make it sound like anything but.

if some guy was using my name to borrow money or whatever id be pised too, and thats not how people do business.
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for the record this is not and was never anything personal.

i have read boneprone saying this guy was trying to get 1000s off people at conventions using Boneprones name, among other things.

this is nothing personal, buiness is business, dont make it sound like anything but.

if some guy was using my name to borrow money or whatever id be pised too, and thats not how people do business.
Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...He's a friend of mine and I don't desert friends who do desperate things when they are desperate...I will try to get him on the road to fixing the shit he got himself in if I can
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Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...
nothing but business to me, i learned long ago not to mix business and friends.
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i have to agree with hank a bit here


there is virtually no chance of Shawn being able to come in and make money to even pay wg back now.


the more he is bashed and hated the less likely that becomes.


it is a sad situation all around.

i really hope he can pay wg back and i hope he is doing well.


hatred never got anyone anywhere far.
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Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...He's a friend of mine and I don't desert friends who do desperate things when they are desperate...I will try to get him on the road to fixing the shit he got himself in if I can
Hank if you're his friend you should be encouraging him to send email to WiredGuy and not you.

That's just my 2 cents.
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there is virtually no chance of Shawn being able to come in and make money to even pay wg back now.

Yes there is.

It isn't as difficult as people think. To redeem himself he needs to pick up his phone and make a few calls. Apologize for what he's done, inform those parties what's going on and how the situation can be resolved.

If he has any skill at all, any talent, he should be able to find SOME form of work. A couple of his friends have attested for him in this very thread, they can possibly reach out and help him find work. Sure, it will probably be small stupid jobs at first but it's still work.

Running from your problems is no way of solving them and is certainly no way of proving yourself as a "friend". Shawn needs to open his eyes before he runs into a brick wall.
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Looks kinda Grim for Shawn it seems.
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Yes there is.

It isn't as difficult as people think. To redeem himself he needs to pick up his phone and make a few calls. Apologize for what he's done, inform those parties what's going on and how the situation can be resolved.

If he has any skill at all, any talent, he should be able to find SOME form of work. A couple of his friends have attested for him in this very thread, they can possibly reach out and help him find work. Sure, it will probably be small stupid jobs at first but it's still work.

Running from your problems is no way of solving them and is certainly no way of proving yourself as a "friend". Shawn needs to open his eyes before he runs into a brick wall.

Well said. With that I am still very open to various settlement options. If he can still mail, then I'm willing to take the equivalent amount owing in joins from one of my sponsors. If he can cross-sell or provide exit traffic, the same. I've even offered a 6 month payment term whereby the original contract only required 30 days notice to cancellation.

He's made the effort to email me but I have yet to see a single penny or how/when he intends to repay (or what he spent the cash on for that matter). Until he makes a valiant effort to repay, I'll be very dissatisfied. Not to mention it's been over 45 days since I offered the 6 month payment settlement and he's disregarded it. I do believe I have made very reasonable efforts to settle this debt by offering installment terms or alternative payment methods other than cash but to be ignored as though I'll forget the debt is something I will not do.

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I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
well, the thread was started 4 months ago, so I don't know that this argument is really a very good one
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the fact that your sig is all fucked up and you dont care!
this thread is old, id toss u a new brain but it might kill wat little is left.
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