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I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard timesOriginally posted by iceicebaby
Nah bro I meant Owned because of your response in this thread. The money owed to you is no joke and Shawn should pay you back
I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
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i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard times
I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
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this all only for $20k?Originally posted by brand0n
i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.
i might be wrong.
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gey grimshawn when you read this.
i am glad I never took you up on hanging with you.
i sensed something about you.
i must have been right.
i fucking hate scammer mother fuckers.
shove your jagermeister up your ass and choke on puke.
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Grimshawn , are you laughing at all your old friends now? or do you feel any kin d of remorse?Got any domains to sell?
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I can have his pinky cut off and send to you wg , then when he pays in full we will give it back to himComment
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wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
I'm sure Grim will pay WiredGuy back when he can...any of us can fall on hard times
I don't think Grim would rip WG off on purpose, imho
you people wonder why you get scammed.
too fucking much sympathy.
this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.
fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.
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Fletch i masturbate daily as i read your blogOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?
you people wonder why you get scammed.
too fucking much sympathy.
this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.
fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.Comment
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Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it rightOriginally posted by brand0n
i would think taking his money, not gettin in contact, avoiding contact, changing your phone number and moving might be considered on purpose to some people.
i might be wrong.
Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.
You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them
I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
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please wake up.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it right
Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.
You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them
I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
this is an OLD THREAD
03-25-2004 07:14 PM
this was when he was working you people.
he is STILL working you people.
jesus h christ, talk about delusion.
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True Words of a Wiseman..... (shit hope i don't get in trouble for saying that)Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Not everyone is strong enough to handle things the right way...I'm sure you can think of someone you know who has fuck up and not handled it right
Bad actions when in trouble does not necessarily make a bad person overall.
You don't throw friends away for one bad action...you findout what the problems are and try to help them fix them
I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
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Funny though how everyone would crucify Hungryman, but for Shawn it's ok.
What a load of BS.Comment
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Only if you wear a dressOriginally posted by juicylinks
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Fletch,Originally posted by Fletch XXX
wow a man of your age falling for this kids bullshit?
you people wonder why you get scammed.
too fucking much sympathy.
this guy isnt on hard times, he is a fucking crook.
fuck him and anyone who feels sorry for him.
Glad to see you have never been down on your luck and had to get money from a friend.
It's hard enough to come to grips with not being able to make things work but three times as hard to tell that friend you don't have the money to pay them back when you said you would.
By your definition then I'm a scammer too, cause I been there where I had to borrow from friends and it took me yrs to get where I could pay them back
I don't think Grim is a scammer...just in a fucked up situation
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No problem bro...I got you coveredOriginally posted by juicylinks
Evryone here needs to buy me a lapdance in florida
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you make it sound like he borrowed money because he was down on his luck.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Fletch,
Glad to see you have never been down on your luck and had to get money from a friend.
It's hard enough to come to grips with not being able to make things work but three times as hard to tell that friend you don't have the money to pay them back when you said you would.
By your definition then I'm a scammer too, cause I been there where I had to borrow from friends and it took me yrs to get where I could pay them back
I don't think Grim is a scammer...just in a fucked up situation
very generous way to twist the facts.
what did he get the money for, was it used for that purpose and where is he now?
he took the money and ran, and disappeared, and you want to think he is out saving his nickels to pay this debt off.
Im from the south and love Louis Armstrong too, but this aint no Wonderful World, and thats not whats happening.
he didnt ask for money because he was down, yuou know that I know that. Dont compare the two.
I cannot stand seeing people speak up for crooks, but i know why its being done, there is still hope for money.
i doubt the guy ever surfaces.
and if he did i would still avoid him and anyone he deals with.
simple as that.
i dont single anyone out. I stand real with it. and I rather not be caught up in shit like this.
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Chris, Hungryman made a habit of fucking people...I don't think Grim hasOriginally posted by Evil Chris
Funny though how everyone would crucify Hungryman, but for Shawn it's ok.
What a load of BS.
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Email me a phone# to [email protected] and I'll call you...everybody knows I don't use ICQ...I like to talk to peopleOriginally posted by juicylinks
Hank
Check it out yo.
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that's unfair, and unfounded IMO.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Chris, Hungryman made a habit of fucking people...I don't think Grim has
Geez Hank, you're making yourself look like quite the "mark".Comment
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Well Fletch,Originally posted by Fletch XXX
you make it sound like he borrowed money because he was down on his luck.
very generous way to twist the facts.
what did he get the money for, was it used for that purpose and where is he now?
he took the money and ran, and disappeared, and you want to think he is out saving his nickels to pay this debt off.
Im from the south and love Louis Armstrong too, but this aint no Wonderful World, and thats not whats happening.
he didnt ask for money because he was down, yuou know that I know that. Dont compare the two.
I cannot stand seeing people speak up for crooks, but i know why its being done, there is still hope for money.
i doubt the guy ever surfaces.
and if he did i would still avoid him and anyone he deals with.
simple as that.
i dont single anyone out. I stand real with it. and I rather not be caught up in shit like this.
I'm from the south too...Jackson, MS infact
I also heard from him yesterday and know for a fact that he is down on his luck and can't find work...Can you say the same?
I don't think so!
You talk like he is living like a fucking king...well I know he is probably living out of his fuckin car
Make for a real big scammer
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You brought Hungry into this read the old treads including Vid'sOriginally posted by Evil Chris
that's unfair, and unfounded IMO.
Geez Hank, you're making yourself look like quite the "mark".
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The thing is, WTF are we suppost to be posting about... We always tend to put our fuckign nose in someone elses business and to be honest it's not our fucking business and no one except the parties involved should be talking about it.
If I would not deal or juge people form what they did in their past and if they succeed or not or if they had problems... Hell I would not even deal with myself.
We all been threw thick and thin but this thread is not about that.
This thread is about a brother who went threw hard times reaching to his friends.
You guys are acting like a bunch of voyeurs getting off on someone elses life... You should get one of your own instead, it's much more exciting.
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Vid and Hungry both live within a stones throw from me. Both of them are friends of mine and I don't get into the middle of that particular situation.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
You brought Hungry into this read the old treads including Vid's
But what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I ever fell on hard times, I wouldn't hatch a sceme to rip off my fellow webmasters and then disappear completely.
You say you talked to him yesterday?Comment
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k ill send a email shortlyOriginally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Email me a phone# to [email protected] and I'll call you...everybody knows I don't use ICQ...I like to talk to people
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Of course he's down on his luck now and can't find work. Everyone in this industry knows he's a thief and a scumbag.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
I also heard from him yesterday and know for a fact that he is down on his luck and can't find work...Can you say the same?
I don't think so!
You talk like he is living like a fucking king...well I know he is probably living out of his fuckin car
Make for a real big scammer

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Didn't say talked to him conversed via email. As for H and V I consider both friends as well and never had a problem with either...Just pointing out a difference from the stuff I read in the pass.Originally posted by Evil Chris
Vid and Hungry both live within a stones throw from me. Both of them are friends of mine and I don't get into the middle of that particular situation.
But what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I ever fell on hard times, I wouldn't hatch a sceme to rip off my fellow webmasters and then disappear completely.
You say you talked to him yesterday?
And not everybody can be that straight up when things go sour and we have more that one of those in this thread. Neither guy was that straight up when the shit hit the fan but you say one guy is ok and the other is a scammer. That's bs, IMHO
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But yeah,Originally posted by psyko514
Of course he's down on his luck now and can't find work. Everyone in this industry knows he's a thief and a scumbag.
All you guys thought he was the greatest thing in the world and couldn't wait to post in his thread when he worked for Max and was going to show and paying for suite parties out of his own pocket with the machines and shit...Now he's the dawg of the earth...How fickle this industry is and that's BS too
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Can't wait bro...it will be good to talk to youOriginally posted by juicylinks
k ill send a email shortly
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Nope...That got messed up in the mixOriginally posted by D-Money
Old thread bumping alert.
Is Grim still doing his chat board thing?
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for the record this is not and was never anything personal.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
But yeah,
All you guys thought he was the greatest thing in the world and couldn't wait to post in his thread when he worked for Max and was going to show and paying for suite parties out of his own pocket with the machines and shit...Now he's the dawg of the earth...How fickle this industry is and that's BS too
i have read boneprone saying this guy was trying to get 1000s off people at conventions using Boneprones name, among other things.
this is nothing personal, buiness is business, dont make it sound like anything but.
if some guy was using my name to borrow money or whatever id be pised too, and thats not how people do business.
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Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...He's a friend of mine and I don't desert friends who do desperate things when they are desperate...I will try to get him on the road to fixing the shit he got himself in if I canOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
for the record this is not and was never anything personal.
i have read boneprone saying this guy was trying to get 1000s off people at conventions using Boneprones name, among other things.
this is nothing personal, buiness is business, dont make it sound like anything but.
if some guy was using my name to borrow money or whatever id be pised too, and thats not how people do business.
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But I'm better looking than youOriginally posted by juicylinks
I am so fucking good loooking
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nothing but business to me, i learned long ago not to mix business and friends.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...
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i have to agree with hank a bit here
there is virtually no chance of Shawn being able to come in and make money to even pay wg back now.
the more he is bashed and hated the less likely that becomes.
it is a sad situation all around.
i really hope he can pay wg back and i hope he is doing well.
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Hank if you're his friend you should be encouraging him to send email to WiredGuy and not you.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Fletch, nothing against you, but for me this is personal...He's a friend of mine and I don't desert friends who do desperate things when they are desperate...I will try to get him on the road to fixing the shit he got himself in if I can
That's just my 2 cents.Comment
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Yes there is.Originally posted by Phoenix
there is virtually no chance of Shawn being able to come in and make money to even pay wg back now.
It isn't as difficult as people think. To redeem himself he needs to pick up his phone and make a few calls. Apologize for what he's done, inform those parties what's going on and how the situation can be resolved.
If he has any skill at all, any talent, he should be able to find SOME form of work. A couple of his friends have attested for him in this very thread, they can possibly reach out and help him find work. Sure, it will probably be small stupid jobs at first but it's still work.
Running from your problems is no way of solving them and is certainly no way of proving yourself as a "friend". Shawn needs to open his eyes before he runs into a brick wall.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Yes there is.
It isn't as difficult as people think. To redeem himself he needs to pick up his phone and make a few calls. Apologize for what he's done, inform those parties what's going on and how the situation can be resolved.
If he has any skill at all, any talent, he should be able to find SOME form of work. A couple of his friends have attested for him in this very thread, they can possibly reach out and help him find work. Sure, it will probably be small stupid jobs at first but it's still work.
Running from your problems is no way of solving them and is certainly no way of proving yourself as a "friend". Shawn needs to open his eyes before he runs into a brick wall.
Well said. With that I am still very open to various settlement options. If he can still mail, then I'm willing to take the equivalent amount owing in joins from one of my sponsors. If he can cross-sell or provide exit traffic, the same. I've even offered a 6 month payment term whereby the original contract only required 30 days notice to cancellation.
He's made the effort to email me but I have yet to see a single penny or how/when he intends to repay (or what he spent the cash on for that matter). Until he makes a valiant effort to repay, I'll be very dissatisfied. Not to mention it's been over 45 days since I offered the 6 month payment settlement and he's disregarded it. I do believe I have made very reasonable efforts to settle this debt by offering installment terms or alternative payment methods other than cash but to be ignored as though I'll forget the debt is something I will not do.
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well, the thread was started 4 months ago, so I don't know that this argument is really a very good oneOriginally posted by Hank_MrSkin
I hope by posting this thread (for which I'm sure he knew he would take alot of heat), I hope Grim is starting to fix the problems
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