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OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 06:17 AM

are they worth it?
or do they just piss off the surfers?
and do they make you guys much $$?

=^..^= · 03-09-2004, 06:20 AM

I dunno about pissing surfers off
but if I have another russian spam me on ICQ tonight asking if I want a dialer solution im gonna SPEW

dav555add · 03-09-2004, 06:25 AM

They can make you a ton of money if used right, however they can fuck over your surfers, plus you may make a ton of money and never see your money.

OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 06:28 AM

what the best way to set them up then? whats a good aff program that pays

Cash · 03-09-2004, 06:30 AM

Dialers are dying ... they are not what they once were.
But use reliable ones, that pay, such as
CECash

Wizzo · 03-09-2004, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84
what the best way to set them up then? whats a good aff program that pays

EpicDialer works great.. good holdtimes!

Wizzo · 03-09-2004, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
Dialers are dying ...

you think? I think they have become as standard as CC for places like the UK...

Spudman · 03-09-2004, 06:35 AM

i never had much luck with dialers when i tried them. made about £3

i dont rate them really. to hard to get surfers to use them

OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo

you think? I think they have become as standard as CC for places like the UK...

best country to send traffic to dialers?

03-09-2004, 06:43 AM

Dialers works very good!

Tafkap · 03-09-2004, 07:22 AM

U can make tons of money with a dialer only if u play by the rules... i mean not using autodialers and stuff.

And u MUST work with a reliable sponsor that is not located in some exotic places, that pays in time, which is known, with live stats time, lots of websites and promo tools, with different languages...

Feel free to contact me if u have any questions

OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 07:25 AM

like i asked...........best countries to send to dialers?

Tafkap · 03-09-2004, 07:27 AM

France
Spain
Italy
Belgium
Holland
UK
Austria
Germany
US (yes)
South America....

polish_aristocrat · 03-09-2004, 07:38 AM

Money Tree dialer is quite good.
I agree, when using dialers, you make the most with UK traffic.

Tafkap · 03-09-2004, 07:42 AM

Forgot Canada too

Wizzo · 03-09-2004, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84

best country to send traffic to dialers?

UK has the best rates, usually about 8x to 10x more than other countries...

OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 07:48 AM

so overall the best dialer would be.................

polish_aristocrat · 03-09-2004, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84
so overall the best dialer would be.................

so overall the best sponsor program would be..............?

ARS, Silver Cash, Top Bucks, Lightspeed Cash or Nasty Dollars?

I recommend Money Tree once again, but you can try different dialers and see what works best for you

bluelevelnick · 03-09-2004, 07:56 AM

in Germany there was, I say WAS, a big dialer gold rush time 3 years ago.

today it is....less than normal business but don't underestimate the amount of money you can generate with dialers.

we are using nocreditcard and it works fine

acuk · 03-09-2004, 07:59 AM

Just my

If any of you guys are serious about making cash with dialers
i agree with Tafkap, make sure that you're dealing with reputable people / companies. Test the dialer for yourself, make sure the company clearly displays the charge rate etc before you dial in...

We've been approached by a number of totally dodgy offshore providers who add all kinds of spyware etc and seem to think that they won't make any real cash unless they bend the rules by making the dialer autodownload / autoinstall.

If any of you guys are interested we run a range of UK specific dialer programs at adultcashuk.com .
Payouts by free wire transfer and in pounds sterling..
Given the current exchange rate there's never been a better time to get paid out in £'s

BuckLover · 03-09-2004, 08:41 AM

The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!

OzMan84 · 03-09-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuckLover
The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!

xactly what i think mate

Tafkap · 03-09-2004, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuckLover
The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!

They don't need to download it automatically... for example, we ask the surfer, on modem, if he wants to save it or just to open it... once he opened it, he has a warning about the cost per minute with all infos needed

Steelhead · 03-09-2004, 09:14 AM

If you are not using dialers and telecom billing then you are not able to monetize 100% of your traffic. You should allow your surfers who want to pay for premium porn access the opportunity to do so. Dialers and phone billing are the only billing solutions that allow you to charge for access to almost anywhere in the world as long as the surfer has an internet connection and land line or mobile phone.

The forementioned about working with reputable companies is a must. There are many companies that offer professional dialer and phone billing solutions. Where the surfer can choose after after reading the terms and agreement, if they would like to connect on pay-per-minute basis or not.

Mitch

NOCREDITCARD.COM

penance · 03-09-2004, 09:28 AM

I agree with Mitch,

If you are not using dialers then you are missing a chance to convert your surfers that do not have CC's and are not converting all your traffic.

take a look at Activenet.com

Mixer · 03-09-2004, 09:51 AM

What can i say...

it's possible to make huge money with dialers if not to sit and wait while you'll get rich by somebody.

I use eXXXtremedialer with autodialing. I get money from them, and i don't think that it's going to crash soon.
Well for example i made last week 600$ with 60-70K of daily traffic, and i don't think that it's limit.

Only losers say here something like: dialers are dead..blah-blah-blah... those who has luck are keeping silence.

If it's not hard for you register under my ref code

unconnected · 03-09-2004, 10:17 AM

exactomondo..

and don't tell me about ripping surfers off..
it is getting better and better.
Look at france for example. the surfer is charged well under 1.00/minute and eveytihng is nice and clear to see..

If you aren't using them then you are still stuck in the mid 90's ... not everyone has a CC, actually most people don't

Furious_Male · 03-09-2004, 10:26 AM

TIBS has a great dialer solution that has been steady for some time. They tend to do well with the eb and flow of dialer world.

We pay daily which takes a way a huge chunk of risk. See bottom of my sig if interested.

DialerMaster · 03-09-2004, 11:45 AM

We have a great solution world wide with very high rates and early payments, so if you have lot's of traffic we are the solution for you

Towser · 03-09-2004, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by penance
I agree with Mitch,

If you are not using dialers then you are missing a chance to convert your surfers that do not have CC's

ie. 11 year old kids because there is no age verification. rack up a huge amount on daddys phone bill. daddy goes ballistic and writes to the media. repeat 1000 times. everyone hears on the news that if you look at porn on the internet you will get a huge phonebill. people get scared of looking at porn on the internet. we cry.

dialers are bad news

hoe_vender · 03-09-2004, 12:05 PM

Not in the US

Towser · 03-09-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoe_vender
Not in the US

what the US media doesnt sensationalize things and jump on any 'lets see if we can ruin this for everyone' bandwagon going? please

Ozzymosis1 · 03-09-2004, 01:50 PM

Dialers work great as long as you have a good one. There are people making some big cash with dialers.

mammy · 03-09-2004, 01:55 PM

www.internationalbucks.com
converts good all kind of international traffic with dialers

crescentx · 03-09-2004, 02:50 PM

I fail to see just how dialers are any different than credit cards, or checks, or livestock as far as age verification. The exact same argument could be made (and in fact happened, not porn-related, some kid in the UK ran up thousands of pounds on his dad's credit card and traveled across Europe) for any payment method.

As usual, instead of the parent's responsibility to monitor the children, it's supposed to be ours. Which makes no sense. Don't want your kids calling 900#s? Have the phone company block them (though that'll ruin dad's recreation). Don't come whining that your kid ran up an XXX phone bill on 900#s when you could have done something to prevent it. Parenting isn't a part-time job.

The *only* way to prevent minors from accessing content they shouldn't be is to have their guardians get radical and accept responsibility for the kid they're supposed to be raising. Not the government, not the porn sites, not EBay, the parents. Only the parents, or guardians, should be allowed to dictate what is and is not appropriate for their kids to view. One of the entire points of parenting is passing values to your kids. That shouldn't be our job, nor should it the government's.

OK, rant over. We've just started experimenting with Nocreditcard and Mitch and his team have been great to work with in getting set up...

-doug

myneid · 03-09-2004, 03:03 PM

Dialers can be great! i would rather revenue on a dialer from some non-us countries than credit cards because there is so much fraud in these countries.
But you got to go with a reliable dialer company that will actually pay you out.
i see here No Credit Card, they are great, carpe diem same. but everybody should check out
Goodthinxx
http://www.goodthinxxcash.com

Goodthinxx has been doing this for a long time and is very reliable. If you ever go to shows you will always see Goodthinxx people floating around.

eXXXtremeDialer · 03-10-2004, 02:03 PM

We have been mentioned already but i allow myself to remember if YOU have real huge traffic, then you should check out autodownloading dialer, that hasn't bad results as its early analogues. We get huge money with this. I think you just need to try once.

http://www.exxxtremedialer.com

03-09-2004, 06:17 AM	#1
OzMan84 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 4,740	Dialers are they worth it? or do they just piss off the surfers? and do they make you guys much $$? __________________ XferClick - 300,000 UV daily and growing quickly. Majority US, EU, CA and AU traffic. Contact me for more information ICQ: 304568058

03-09-2004, 06:20 AM	#2
=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	I dunno about pissing surfers off but if I have another russian spam me on ICQ tonight asking if I want a dialer solution im gonna SPEW __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

03-09-2004, 06:25 AM	#3
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	They can make you a ton of money if used right, however they can fuck over your surfers, plus you may make a ton of money and never see your money. __________________ ...

03-09-2004, 06:28 AM	#4
OzMan84 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 4,740	what the best way to set them up then? whats a good aff program that pays __________________ XferClick - 300,000 UV daily and growing quickly. Majority US, EU, CA and AU traffic. Contact me for more information ICQ: 304568058

03-09-2004, 06:30 AM	#5
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Dialers are dying ... they are not what they once were. But use reliable ones, that pay, such as CECash __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

03-09-2004, 06:35 AM	#8
Spudman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,198	i never had much luck with dialers when i tried them. made about £3 i dont rate them really. to hard to get surfers to use them __________________ Take it Easy !!!

03-09-2004, 06:43 AM	#10
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	Dialers works very good!

03-09-2004, 07:22 AM	#11
Tafkap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Between France & Romania Posts: 544	U can make tons of money with a dialer only if u play by the rules... i mean not using autodialers and stuff. And u MUST work with a reliable sponsor that is not located in some exotic places, that pays in time, which is known, with live stats time, lots of websites and promo tools, with different languages... Feel free to contact me if u have any questions __________________ ICQ#247821295

03-09-2004, 07:25 AM	#12
OzMan84 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 4,740	like i asked...........best countries to send to dialers? __________________ XferClick - 300,000 UV daily and growing quickly. Majority US, EU, CA and AU traffic. Contact me for more information ICQ: 304568058

03-09-2004, 07:27 AM	#13
Tafkap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Between France & Romania Posts: 544	France Spain Italy Belgium Holland UK Austria Germany US (yes) South America.... __________________ ICQ#247821295

03-09-2004, 07:38 AM	#14
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Money Tree dialer is quite good. I agree, when using dialers, you make the most with UK traffic. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-09-2004, 07:42 AM	#15
Tafkap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Between France & Romania Posts: 544	Forgot Canada too __________________ ICQ#247821295

03-09-2004, 07:48 AM	#17
OzMan84 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 4,740	so overall the best dialer would be................. __________________ XferClick - 300,000 UV daily and growing quickly. Majority US, EU, CA and AU traffic. Contact me for more information ICQ: 304568058

03-09-2004, 07:56 AM	#19
bluelevelnick Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany / Cologne Posts: 98	in Germany there was, I say WAS, a big dialer gold rush time 3 years ago. today it is....less than normal business but don't underestimate the amount of money you can generate with dialers. we are using nocreditcard and it works fine __________________ ICQ # 316936927

03-09-2004, 07:59 AM	#20
acuk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 234	Just my If any of you guys are serious about making cash with dialers i agree with Tafkap, make sure that you're dealing with reputable people / companies. Test the dialer for yourself, make sure the company clearly displays the charge rate etc before you dial in... We've been approached by a number of totally dodgy offshore providers who add all kinds of spyware etc and seem to think that they won't make any real cash unless they bend the rules by making the dialer autodownload / autoinstall. If any of you guys are interested we run a range of UK specific dialer programs at adultcashuk.com . Payouts by free wire transfer and in pounds sterling.. Given the current exchange rate there's never been a better time to get paid out in £'s __________________ SIGLESS FOR NOW

03-09-2004, 08:41 AM	#21
BuckLover Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I'm everywhere Bitches!! Posts: 1,656	The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!

03-09-2004, 09:14 AM	#24
Steelhead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Switzerland, Spain, USA Posts: 586	If you are not using dialers and telecom billing then you are not able to monetize 100% of your traffic. You should allow your surfers who want to pay for premium porn access the opportunity to do so. Dialers and phone billing are the only billing solutions that allow you to charge for access to almost anywhere in the world as long as the surfer has an internet connection and land line or mobile phone. The forementioned about working with reputable companies is a must. There are many companies that offer professional dialer and phone billing solutions. Where the surfer can choose after after reading the terms and agreement, if they would like to connect on pay-per-minute basis or not. Mitch NOCREDITCARD.COM

03-09-2004, 09:28 AM	#25
penance Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 19	I agree with Mitch, If you are not using dialers then you are missing a chance to convert your surfers that do not have CC's and are not converting all your traffic. take a look at Activenet.com

03-09-2004, 09:51 AM	#26
Mixer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: N.J. Posts: 55	What can i say... it's possible to make huge money with dialers if not to sit and wait while you'll get rich by somebody. I use eXXXtremedialer with autodialing. I get money from them, and i don't think that it's going to crash soon. Well for example i made last week 600$ with 60-70K of daily traffic, and i don't think that it's limit. Only losers say here something like: dialers are dead..blah-blah-blah... those who has luck are keeping silence. If it's not hard for you register under my ref code __________________ IsIsHost.com - Free Host For You!

03-09-2004, 10:17 AM	#27
unconnected Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,025	exactomondo.. and don't tell me about ripping surfers off.. it is getting better and better. Look at france for example. the surfer is charged well under 1.00/minute and eveytihng is nice and clear to see.. If you aren't using them then you are still stuck in the mid 90's ... not everyone has a CC, actually most people don't __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989

03-09-2004, 10:26 AM	#28
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	TIBS has a great dialer solution that has been steady for some time. They tend to do well with the eb and flow of dialer world. We pay daily which takes a way a huge chunk of risk. See bottom of my sig if interested. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

03-09-2004, 11:45 AM	#29
DialerMaster Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 72	We have a great solution world wide with very high rates and early payments, so if you have lot's of traffic we are the solution for you __________________ The Best Dialer Solutions on the net !! ICQ 225595058

03-09-2004, 12:05 PM	#31
hoe_vender Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 2,018	Not in the US __________________ ICQ #286508534

03-09-2004, 01:50 PM	#33
Ozzymosis1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Occupation: Traffic Broker Company: Fast Adult Traffic URL: FastAdultTraffic.com ICQ: 233907523 Posts: 2,094	Dialers work great as long as you have a good one. There are people making some big cash with dialers. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-09-2004, 01:55 PM	#34
mammy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,279	www.internationalbucks.com converts good all kind of international traffic with dialers __________________ million dollars for paysite design icq 434954667

03-09-2004, 02:50 PM	#35
crescentx Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 317	I fail to see just how dialers are any different than credit cards, or checks, or livestock as far as age verification. The exact same argument could be made (and in fact happened, not porn-related, some kid in the UK ran up thousands of pounds on his dad's credit card and traveled across Europe) for any payment method. As usual, instead of the parent's responsibility to monitor the children, it's supposed to be ours. Which makes no sense. Don't want your kids calling 900#s? Have the phone company block them (though that'll ruin dad's recreation). Don't come whining that your kid ran up an XXX phone bill on 900#s when you could have done something to prevent it. Parenting isn't a part-time job. The only way to prevent minors from accessing content they shouldn't be is to have their guardians get radical and accept responsibility for the kid they're supposed to be raising. Not the government, not the porn sites, not EBay, the parents. Only the parents, or guardians, should be allowed to dictate what is and is not appropriate for their kids to view. One of the entire points of parenting is passing values to your kids. That shouldn't be our job, nor should it the government's. OK, rant over. We've just started experimenting with Nocreditcard and Mitch and his team have been great to work with in getting set up... -doug

03-09-2004, 03:03 PM	#36
myneid Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 736	Dialers can be great! i would rather revenue on a dialer from some non-us countries than credit cards because there is so much fraud in these countries. But you got to go with a reliable dialer company that will actually pay you out. i see here No Credit Card, they are great, carpe diem same. but everybody should check out Goodthinxx http://www.goodthinxxcash.com Goodthinxx has been doing this for a long time and is very reliable. If you ever go to shows you will always see Goodthinxx people floating around. __________________ Tanguy 0x7a69 inc. Programmer/President/CEO http://www.0x7a69.com A Leader in Programming since 1996 PHP, Ruby on Rails, MySQL, PCI DSS, and any Technical Consulting

03-10-2004, 02:03 PM	#37
eXXXtremeDialer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	We have been mentioned already but i allow myself to remember if YOU have real huge traffic, then you should check out autodownloading dialer, that hasn't bad results as its early analogues. We get huge money with this. I think you just need to try once. http://www.exxxtremedialer.com __________________ [email protected]