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OzMan84 03-09-2004 06:17 AM

Dialers
 
are they worth it?
or do they just piss off the surfers?
and do they make you guys much $$?

=^..^= 03-09-2004 06:20 AM

I dunno about pissing surfers off
but if I have another russian spam me on ICQ tonight asking if I want a dialer solution im gonna SPEW :BangBang:

dav555add 03-09-2004 06:25 AM

They can make you a ton of money if used right, however they can fuck over your surfers, plus you may make a ton of money and never see your money.

OzMan84 03-09-2004 06:28 AM

what the best way to set them up then? whats a good aff program that pays

Cash 03-09-2004 06:30 AM

Dialers are dying ... they are not what they once were.
But use reliable ones, that pay, such as
CECash

Wizzo 03-09-2004 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84
what the best way to set them up then? whats a good aff program that pays

EpicDialer works great.. good holdtimes!:thumbsup

Wizzo 03-09-2004 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
Dialers are dying ...
you think? I think they have become as standard as CC for places like the UK...:)

Spudman 03-09-2004 06:35 AM

i never had much luck with dialers when i tried them. made about £3 :1orglaugh i dont rate them really. to hard to get surfers to use them
:2 cents:

OzMan84 03-09-2004 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo


you think? I think they have become as standard as CC for places like the UK...:)



best country to send traffic to dialers?

Alex Xe 03-09-2004 06:43 AM

Dialers works very good!

Tafkap 03-09-2004 07:22 AM

U can make tons of money with a dialer only if u play by the rules... i mean not using autodialers and stuff.

And u MUST work with a reliable sponsor that is not located in some exotic places, that pays in time, which is known, with live stats time, lots of websites and promo tools, with different languages...

Feel free to contact me if u have any questions :thumbsup

OzMan84 03-09-2004 07:25 AM

like i asked...........best countries to send to dialers?

Tafkap 03-09-2004 07:27 AM

France
Spain
Italy
Belgium
Holland
UK
Austria
Germany
US (yes)
South America....

polish_aristocrat 03-09-2004 07:38 AM

Money Tree dialer is quite good.
I agree, when using dialers, you make the most with UK traffic. :cool-as-a

Tafkap 03-09-2004 07:42 AM

Forgot Canada too :winkwink:

Wizzo 03-09-2004 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84




best country to send traffic to dialers?


UK has the best rates, usually about 8x to 10x more than other countries...:thumbsup

OzMan84 03-09-2004 07:48 AM

so overall the best dialer would be.................

polish_aristocrat 03-09-2004 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan84
so overall the best dialer would be.................
so overall the best sponsor program would be..............?

ARS, Silver Cash, Top Bucks, Lightspeed Cash or Nasty Dollars? :Graucho

I recommend Money Tree once again, but you can try different dialers and see what works best for you :2 cents:

bluelevelnick 03-09-2004 07:56 AM

in Germany there was, I say WAS, a big dialer gold rush time 3 years ago.

today it is....less than normal business but don't underestimate the amount of money you can generate with dialers.

we are using nocreditcard and it works fine

acuk 03-09-2004 07:59 AM

Just my :2 cents:

If any of you guys are serious about making cash with dialers
i agree with Tafkap, make sure that you're dealing with reputable people / companies. Test the dialer for yourself, make sure the company clearly displays the charge rate etc before you dial in...

We've been approached by a number of totally dodgy offshore providers who add all kinds of spyware etc and seem to think that they won't make any real cash unless they bend the rules by making the dialer autodownload / autoinstall. :feels-hot

If any of you guys are interested we run a range of UK specific dialer programs at adultcashuk.com .
Payouts by free wire transfer and in pounds sterling..
Given the current exchange rate there's never been a better time to get paid out in £'s :glugglug

BuckLover 03-09-2004 08:41 AM

The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!

OzMan84 03-09-2004 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuckLover
The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!
xactly what i think mate

Tafkap 03-09-2004 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuckLover
The biggest problem for me, is getting over the fact that the surfer needs to download software! "the dialer" and it's pushed on them like a virus! You really don't know what you are downloading and what it can do to your machine!
They don't need to download it automatically... for example, we ask the surfer, on modem, if he wants to save it or just to open it... once he opened it, he has a warning about the cost per minute with all infos needed

Steelhead 03-09-2004 09:14 AM

If you are not using dialers and telecom billing then you are not able to monetize 100% of your traffic. You should allow your surfers who want to pay for premium porn access the opportunity to do so. Dialers and phone billing are the only billing solutions that allow you to charge for access to almost anywhere in the world as long as the surfer has an internet connection and land line or mobile phone.

The forementioned about working with reputable companies is a must. There are many companies that offer professional dialer and phone billing solutions. Where the surfer can choose after after reading the terms and agreement, if they would like to connect on pay-per-minute basis or not.

Mitch

NOCREDITCARD.COM

penance 03-09-2004 09:28 AM

I agree with Mitch,

If you are not using dialers then you are missing a chance to convert your surfers that do not have CC's and are not converting all your traffic.

take a look at Activenet.com

Mixer 03-09-2004 09:51 AM

What can i say...

it's possible to make huge money with dialers if not to sit and wait while you'll get rich by somebody.

I use eXXXtremedialer with autodialing. I get money from them, and i don't think that it's going to crash soon.
Well for example i made last week 600$ with 60-70K of daily traffic, and i don't think that it's limit.

Only losers say here something like: dialers are dead..blah-blah-blah... those who has luck are keeping silence.

If it's not hard for you register under my ref code:)

unconnected 03-09-2004 10:17 AM

exactomondo..

and don't tell me about ripping surfers off..
it is getting better and better.
Look at france for example. the surfer is charged well under 1.00/minute and eveytihng is nice and clear to see..

If you aren't using them then you are still stuck in the mid 90's ... not everyone has a CC, actually most people don't

Furious_Male 03-09-2004 10:26 AM

TIBS has a great dialer solution that has been steady for some time. They tend to do well with the eb and flow of dialer world.

We pay daily which takes a way a huge chunk of risk. See bottom of my sig if interested.

DialerMaster 03-09-2004 11:45 AM

We have a great solution world wide with very high rates and early payments, so if you have lot's of traffic we are the solution for you

Towser 03-09-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by penance
I agree with Mitch,

If you are not using dialers then you are missing a chance to convert your surfers that do not have CC's

ie. 11 year old kids because there is no age verification. rack up a huge amount on daddys phone bill. daddy goes ballistic and writes to the media. repeat 1000 times. everyone hears on the news that if you look at porn on the internet you will get a huge phonebill. people get scared of looking at porn on the internet. we cry.

dialers are bad news:2 cents:

hoe_vender 03-09-2004 12:05 PM

Not in the US

Towser 03-09-2004 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoe_vender
Not in the US
what the US media doesnt sensationalize things and jump on any 'lets see if we can ruin this for everyone' bandwagon going? please:321GFY

Ozzymosis1 03-09-2004 01:50 PM

Dialers work great as long as you have a good one. There are people making some big cash with dialers. :thumbsup

mammy 03-09-2004 01:55 PM

www.internationalbucks.com
converts good all kind of international traffic with dialers :thumbsup

crescentx 03-09-2004 02:50 PM

I fail to see just how dialers are any different than credit cards, or checks, or livestock as far as age verification. The exact same argument could be made (and in fact happened, not porn-related, some kid in the UK ran up thousands of pounds on his dad's credit card and traveled across Europe) for any payment method.

As usual, instead of the parent's responsibility to monitor the children, it's supposed to be ours. Which makes no sense. Don't want your kids calling 900#s? Have the phone company block them (though that'll ruin dad's recreation). Don't come whining that your kid ran up an XXX phone bill on 900#s when you could have done something to prevent it. Parenting isn't a part-time job.

The *only* way to prevent minors from accessing content they shouldn't be is to have their guardians get radical and accept responsibility for the kid they're supposed to be raising. Not the government, not the porn sites, not EBay, the parents. Only the parents, or guardians, should be allowed to dictate what is and is not appropriate for their kids to view. One of the entire points of parenting is passing values to your kids. That shouldn't be our job, nor should it the government's.

OK, rant over. We've just started experimenting with Nocreditcard and Mitch and his team have been great to work with in getting set up...

-doug

myneid 03-09-2004 03:03 PM

Dialers can be great! i would rather revenue on a dialer from some non-us countries than credit cards because there is so much fraud in these countries.
But you got to go with a reliable dialer company that will actually pay you out.
i see here No Credit Card, they are great, carpe diem same. but everybody should check out
Goodthinxx
http://www.goodthinxxcash.com

Goodthinxx has been doing this for a long time and is very reliable. If you ever go to shows you will always see Goodthinxx people floating around.

eXXXtremeDialer 03-10-2004 02:03 PM

We have been mentioned already but i allow myself to remember if YOU have real huge traffic, then you should check out autodownloading dialer, that hasn't bad results as its early analogues. We get huge money with this. I think you just need to try once.

http://www.exxxtremedialer.com


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