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JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 12:33 AM

One of those big chrome bastards that sticks out the hood.

If so what compression is your motor at and how drivable is the setup?

JD · 02-15-2004, 12:38 AM

from what I've seen it's always a good idea to go way low with the compression or you'll fuck up the motor. I work with Honda/Acura motors and when I've added boost of any kind I drop the compression to like 9:1 or so.

For N/A high compression is king. For boost the lower the better.
Drivability isn't really an issue till you get way up in the boost. I had a 27psi 1.8L B18 for about 3 years before any MAJOR problems. I had to change the oil about every 1200-1500 miles and always seemed to get oil leaks but it was way cool having it.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
from what I've seen it's always a good idea to go way low with the compression or you'll fuck up the motor. I work with Honda/Acura motors and when I've added boost of any kind I drop the compression to like 9:1 or so.

For N/A high compression is king. For boost the lower the better.
Drivability isn't really an issue till you get way up in the boost. I had a 27psi 1.8L B18 for about 3 years before any MAJOR problems. I had to change the oil about every 1200-1500 miles and always seemed to get oil leaks but it was way cool having it.

Wow 27psi sounds real high, Was that in a honda? I was talking more about muscle car era american v8s.

What kinda car did you run the 27psi in btw?

Vitasoy · 02-15-2004, 12:51 AM

Honda Civics are the best to mod

lock · 02-15-2004, 12:52 AM

well not ever supersharger comes out the bonnet i sold GM in Australia and every v6 calais has a supercharger.

Huggles · 02-15-2004, 12:56 AM

My S2000 is running 11 psi on 11:1 compression

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by lock
well not ever supersharger comes out the bonnet i sold GM in Australia and every v6 calais has a supercharger.

Ya I know but I was refering to the big old chrome things the stick 2 feet in the air

JD · 02-15-2004, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

Wow 27psi sounds real high, Was that in a honda? I was talking more about muscle car era american v8s.

What kinda car did you run the 27psi in btw?

it was a 94 civic hatchback. it did about 10.8 in the quarter.

The next time I ran it I had installed a 100 shot of nos and fucking blew up about half way down the track.

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:09 AM

8.5:1 on a 557 inch big block Ford. Car went 8:70's last year on D.O.T approved 10.5 inch tire.

DirtyDanza · 02-15-2004, 01:11 AM

I got a garret t5 turbo.... does that count... 390hp to the ground

DirtyDanza · 02-15-2004, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
8.5:1 on a 557 inch big block Ford. Car went 8:70's last year on D.O.T approved 10.5 inch tire.

in what and where did you do it at... nhra rules state you have to have a 7pt cage and a fire system to race under 10 if I remember correct I don't race 1/4 mile I do road racing with scca

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by Dirty_DS

in what and where did you do it at... nhra rules state you have to have a 7pt cage and a fire system to race under 10 if I remember correct I don't race 1/4 mile I do road racing with scca

the car is certified for 7.99 and we go all over the country in Fun Ford Events, fully caged, fire supression and so on. Its a backhalf car but on 10.5 inch dot tire.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
8.5:1 on a 557 inch big block Ford. Car went 8:70's last year on D.O.T approved 10.5 inch tire.

That rocks. What is it in ?

and POST A PIC

Morgan · 02-15-2004, 01:21 AM

I got Turbo. No SC.

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

That rocks. What is it in ?

and POST A PIC

85 mustang and im not at my computer. Im at a buddys house who is clueless with html. leave an email or icq and ill throw ya some pics and video footage when im back home tomm.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
85 mustang and im not at my computer. Im at a buddys house who is clueless with html. leave an email or icq and ill throw ya some pics and video footage when im back home tomm.

[email protected]
thanks man

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:25 AM

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thanks man

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 01:27 AM

Nothing beats the look of a chrome roots blower!

They are horrible inefficient though. (lots of heat)

Centrifugal all the way. It all stays under the hood, and you can intercool it. Basically a belt-driven intercooled turbo. http://www.procharger.com/

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
Nothing beats the look of a chrome roots blower!

They are horrible inefficient though. (lots of heat)

Centrifugal all the way. It all stays under the hood, and you can intercool it. Basically a belt-driven intercooled turbo. http://www.procharger.com/

yes true in some sense of the word, but when its all said and done roots make the most power when you visit the far end of the spectrum.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
yes true in some sense of the word, but when its all said and done roots make the most power when you visit the far end of the spectrum.

What you mean by roots?

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 01:30 AM

Really? I didn't know that.

From what I know, using an intercooler let's you run more boost.

Boost = power

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

What you mean by roots?

roots blowers are what you are thinking of. The roots blowers house 2 rotors, in the case which is what you see out of the hood. These rotors are screw shaped and create boost, thus they create friction and from friction comes heat. And so on......

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

What you mean by roots?

The typical "Supercharger" that sticks out of the hood.

http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/attachme...&postid=707559

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
roots blowers are what you are thinking of. The roots blowers house 2 rotors, in the case which is what you see out of the hood. These rotors are screw shaped and create boost, thus they create friction and from friction comes heat. And so on......

Ya thats the one I like thanks

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo

The typical "Supercharger" that sticks out of the hood.

http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/attachme...&postid=707559

Exactly.
Who had one of those?

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
Really? I didn't know that.

From what I know, using an intercooler let's you run more boost.

Boost = power

you obtain boost from both types of blowers, you are talking alond the lines of cooling the incoming aircharge which is more dense with oxygen and then combined with more compensating fuel, you effectively have a more efficient air/fuel mixture resulting in more power. True until you really step up in horsepower, due to many different variables you can use the heat a roots blower makes along with variable timing and fuel delivery to far exceed centrifigual blowers, but you are talking in excesses of 2000 hp

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
you obtain boost from both types of blowers, you are talking alond the lines of cooling the incoming aircharge which is more dense with oxygen and then combined with more compensating fuel, you effectively have a more efficient air/fuel mixture resulting in more power. True until you really step up in horsepower, due to many different variables you can use the heat a roots blower makes along with variable timing and fuel delivery to far exceed centrifigual blowers, but you are talking in excesses of 2000 hp

Dude you are in the wrong biz

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

Dude you are in the wrong biz

we build 75k engines for drag racers around the country, this is hobby and fun too.

the Shemp · 02-15-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
One of those big chrome bastards that sticks out the hood.

If so what compression is your motor at and how drivable is the setup?

check out BDS, blower drive service

http://www.blowerdriveservice.com/photo.htm

here's a sample..

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 01:47 AM

Nice info! :D

Because heat = bad for forced induction, I've read that intercooled setups are the way to go. Because of the configuration of Roots blowers, they can't use an intercooler.

This makes a huge difference in power. With an intercooled blower, you can run much more boost without the threat of detonation.

More boost = more power from everything I've read.

Roots:

Centrifugal:

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
Nice info! :D

Because heat = bad for forced induction, I've read that intercooled setups are the way to go. Because of the configuration of Roots blowers, they can't use an intercooler.

This makes a huge difference in power. With an intercooled blower, you can run much more boost without the threat of detonation.

More boost = more power from everything I've read.

Roots:

Centrifugal:

yes this is all good info for the most part till you move way up in the horsepower range. Street driven or part time weekend warrior racers prefer the centrif's. Start moving way up the hp range and watch your centrifgual eat itself alive and spin bearings in the housing. BUT im talkin in excess of 2k hp

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
we build 75k engines for drag racers around the country, this is hobby and fun too.

Dam you mean those hemi's with the dual distributors?
Why do they have 2 anyways?

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

Dam you mean those hemi's with the dual distributors?
Why do they have 2 anyways?

please use the word hemi loosely

They are what is referred to as magnetos. 1 for each bank of cylinders. I dont want the dodge boys gettin all huffy even though Ford had used the hemi style cylinder head layout before dodge. Although they brought it to production first

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by the Shemp

check out BDS, blower drive service
http://www.blowerdriveservice.com/photo.htm

here's a sample..

Thanks

Thats just the look I am after.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
please use the word hemi loosely They are what is referred to as magnetos. 1 for each bank of cylinders. I dont want the dodge boys gettin all huffy even though Ford had used the hemi style cylinder head layout before dodge. Although they brought it to production first

Bank means each side ?
So one for the left 4 and one for the right?

You trade motors for traffic ? LOL

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
yes this is all good info for the most part till you move way up in the horsepower range. Street driven or part time weekend warrior racers prefer the centrif's. Start moving way up the hp range and watch your centrifgual eat itself alive and spin bearings in the housing. BUT im talkin in excess of 2k hp

I wasn't considering max HP situations.

So roots are better for extremely high HP situations then I take it? I didn't know that.

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

Bank means each side ?
So one for the left 4 and one for the right?

You trade motors for traffic ? LOL

yes and NO

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo

I wasn't considering max HP situations.

So roots are better for extremely high HP situations then I take it? I didn't know that.

ya for a guy on a budget and not lookin to make 2k+ hp centrif's are the way to go. All IHRA and NHRA fuel cars run roots. All monster trucks like bigfoot and gravedigger run roots.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
yes and NO

LOL ok how much for a 1500hp motor that will run cool on pump gas?

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

LOL ok how much for a 1500hp motor that will run cool on pump gas?

it wont you need 5 bucks a gallon

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
it wont you need 5 bucks a gallon

Whats max hp your shop does on pump gas?

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 02:09 AM

http://www.montygwilliams.com/

1200HP/1000TQ Twin Turbo SBC 427 Corvette.

Not 1,500 HP, but 1,200 on pump gas.

"the engine runs detonation free on 93 octane pump gas, idles smoothly at 800-850rpm, and pulls about 7" of vacuum at idle."

RPM....TQ......HP
4100...771.1...602.0
4200...768.5...614.6
4300...770.8...631.1
4400...777.7...651.5
4500...778.9...667.4
4600...788.4...690.5
4700...803.2...718.8
4800...821.7...751.0
4900...850.0...793.0
5000...874.8...832.8
5100...883.3...857.7
5200...901.7...892.8
5300...903.5...911.8
5400...927.2...953.3
5500...926.4...970.1
5600...945.3...1007.9
5700...946.6...1027.3
5800...960.4...1060.6
5900...963.2...1082.0
6000...970.2...1108.4
6100...964.2...1119.9
6200...956.0...1128.6
6300...952.6...1142.7
6400...937.2...1142.1
6500...922.7...1142.0
6600...916.1...1151.2

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
http://www.montygwilliams.com/

1200HP/1000TQ Twin Turbo SBC 427 Corvette.

Not 1,500 HP, but 1,200 on pump gas.

Im impressed the homegrown gang is into HP

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
http://www.montygwilliams.com/

1200HP/1000TQ Twin Turbo SBC 427 Corvette.

Not 1,500 HP, but 1,200 on pump gas.

"the engine runs detonation free on 93 octane pump gas, idles smoothly at 800-850rpm, and pulls about 7" of vacuum at idle."

RPM....TQ......HP
4100...771.1...602.0
4200...768.5...614.6
4300...770.8...631.1
4400...777.7...651.5
4500...778.9...667.4
4600...788.4...690.5
4700...803.2...718.8
4800...821.7...751.0
4900...850.0...793.0
5000...874.8...832.8
5100...883.3...857.7
5200...901.7...892.8
5300...903.5...911.8
5400...927.2...953.3
5500...926.4...970.1
5600...945.3...1007.9
5700...946.6...1027.3
5800...960.4...1060.6
5900...963.2...1082.0
6000...970.2...1108.4
6100...964.2...1119.9
6200...956.0...1128.6
6300...952.6...1142.7
6400...937.2...1142.1
6500...922.7...1142.0
6600...916.1...1151.2

ahhhhhhhhhhh the fastime crew, they fail to tell you on his website how many times the motor has eaten itself. Fasttimes is 20 minutes up the road from my house. Inside the drag racing circle they are known as "bad things happen to those who frank builds motors for"

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
ahhhhhhhhhhh the fastime crew, they fail to tell you on his website how many times the motor has eaten itself. Fasttimes is 20 minutes up the road from my house. Inside the drag racing circle they are known as "bad things happen to those who frank builds motors for"

YO Whats max hp your shop does on pump gas?
You sound like you know your shit I serious.

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
ahhhhhhhhhhh the fastime crew, they fail to tell you on his website how many times the motor has eaten itself. Fasttimes is 20 minutes up the road from my house. Inside the drag racing circle they are known as "bad things happen to those who frank builds motors for"

Cool, you know them?

I wouldn't expect a 1,200 HP engine to run too long myself.

I'd take 500 reliable HP, and a ton of traction over more HP anyday.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2004, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo

Cool, you know them?

I wouldn't expect a 1,200 HP engine to run too long myself.

I'd take 500 reliable HP, and a ton of traction over more HP anyday.

What kinda set up you have?

Please dont say m3 LOL

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

YO Whats max hp your shop does on pump gas?
You sound like you know your shit I serious.

sorry, um what brand are we talkin about first off? And secondly we only build Fords and 99% of them are big blocks

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by Homegrownvideo

Cool, you know them?

I wouldn't expect a 1,200 HP engine to run too long myself.

I'd take 500 reliable HP, and a ton of traction over more HP anyday.

ya it will last but not long on pump gas. A variation in oil pressure of 10lbs or more and its toast on the street in traffic and heat

Homegrownvideo · 02-15-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa

What kinda set up you have?

Please dont say m3 LOL

I own a 1986 International Race Of Champions Camaro.

Bone stock, minus the transmission. (For now anyway...)

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JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	Anyone here got a super charger? One of those big chrome bastards that sticks out the hood. If so what compression is your motor at and how drivable is the setup?

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	from what I've seen it's always a good idea to go way low with the compression or you'll fuck up the motor. I work with Honda/Acura motors and when I've added boost of any kind I drop the compression to like 9:1 or so. For N/A high compression is king. For boost the lower the better. Drivability isn't really an issue till you get way up in the boost. I had a 27psi 1.8L B18 for about 3 years before any MAJOR problems. I had to change the oil about every 1200-1500 miles and always seemed to get oil leaks but it was way cool having it.

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Homegrownvideo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 373	Nothing beats the look of a chrome roots blower! They are horrible inefficient though. (lots of heat) Centrifugal all the way. It all stays under the hood, and you can intercool it. Basically a belt-driven intercooled turbo. http://www.procharger.com/ __________________ http://www.homegrownvideo.com http://www.homegrowncash.com http://www.homegrownstore.com http://www.homegrowncontent.com

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Homegrownvideo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 373	Nice info! :D Because heat = bad for forced induction, I've read that intercooled setups are the way to go. Because of the configuration of Roots blowers, they can't use an intercooler. This makes a huge difference in power. With an intercooled blower, you can run much more boost without the threat of detonation. More boost = more power from everything I've read. Roots: Centrifugal: __________________ http://www.homegrownvideo.com http://www.homegrowncash.com http://www.homegrownstore.com http://www.homegrowncontent.com

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Homegrownvideo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 373	http://www.montygwilliams.com/ 1200HP/1000TQ Twin Turbo SBC 427 Corvette. Not 1,500 HP, but 1,200 on pump gas. "the engine runs detonation free on 93 octane pump gas, idles smoothly at 800-850rpm, and pulls about 7" of vacuum at idle." RPM....TQ......HP 4100...771.1...602.0 4200...768.5...614.6 4300...770.8...631.1 4400...777.7...651.5 4500...778.9...667.4 4600...788.4...690.5 4700...803.2...718.8 4800...821.7...751.0 4900...850.0...793.0 5000...874.8...832.8 5100...883.3...857.7 5200...901.7...892.8 5300...903.5...911.8 5400...927.2...953.3 5500...926.4...970.1 5600...945.3...1007.9 5700...946.6...1027.3 5800...960.4...1060.6 5900...963.2...1082.0 6000...970.2...1108.4 6100...964.2...1119.9 6200...956.0...1128.6 6300...952.6...1142.7 6400...937.2...1142.1 6500...922.7...1142.0 6600...916.1...1151.2 __________________ http://www.homegrownvideo.com http://www.homegrowncash.com http://www.homegrownstore.com http://www.homegrowncontent.com Last edited by Homegrownvideo; 02-15-2004 at 02:12 AM..