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Old 01-29-2004, 08:09 AM   #51
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Old 01-29-2004, 08:12 AM   #52
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Wish some of you Europeans could thank the US and the Russians more often for bailing you fuckers out.


lil2rich4u2 , you're a moron


Hitler also came very close to developing a nuclear bomb, and he came very close to developing planes that could reach new york. now put those 2 together.
I say USA for ever !
...but Russia by the way was the first country that used concentration camps for not wellcome minoroties ! Donīt forget that !
WAR and KILLING is always evil and not genious !!!
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Genious yes. Without a doubt.
Also crazy and Evil.
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Wish some of you Europeans could thank the US and the Russians more often for bailing you fuckers out.
Yep, thank God the Soviet Union and Stalin liberated Europe! It is almost by luck that a nuclear war was not the result.
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No he wasn't a genius. As he said "What luck it is for rulers that men do not think". He believed he'll get what he wants because people are stupid and because nobody is really gonna question his honesty or sanity as long as he's bringing victory.
That's true ... but this of course does not apply to America.

We have systems, processes, and bodys of government in place that have the peoples best interest in mind, so that country can not be controlled by one mans desires.

Americans are too smart and interested in our countrys well being to let it's rulers pull something like that.


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One word: Blitzkrieg. How long did it take the numerically inferior German army to conquer France again?
The "Blitzkrieg" was developed by the general staff before Hitler took power .

So , I'm still waiting for any evidence that Hitler was a genius .
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May U R right Man, but did U ever visit Berlin (in Germany) ? Iīve bin to this city once and I saw so many different colors there. Germanyīs social system and government allows so many foreign people to stay there without hunger or medical aid. Itīs a worthwhile city by the way.
Yes I lived in Germany for two years (US Army I was stationed there) I went to Berlin in three ocasions and you are right is a very diverse city. Don't get me wrong tho I liked Germany and Germans were pretty cool but they are very complex and their system is difficult in just about every way...
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Yes I lived in Germany for two years (US Army I was stationed there) I went to Berlin in three ocasions and you are right is a very diverse city. Don't get me wrong tho I liked Germany and Germans were pretty cool but they are very complex and their system is difficult in just about every way...
OK, U know what Uīre talking about man when U lived there.
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The "Blitzkrieg" was developed by the general staff before Hitler took power .

So , I'm still waiting for any evidence that Hitler was a genius .
Actually the idea behind the Blitzkrieg was developed by the British. However Hitler further developed, strengthed, and enabled it to allow it the power it had.
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Was it in 1940 when he had his birthday party, he invited EVERYONE to come to his birthday party where he had the ENTIRE german military force slowly march past this huge crowd of people. I think they said it took 5hrs for the entire army to march past the people.
Rich your a moron ;)

Let me break it down for you

#1, at times Hitler seems powerful in his intent, does not mean he was a genious or that he was a good person

#2, the war started in 1939 so wtf are you talking about going to war in 1940?

#3, if you actually got of this past dictator's dick and concentrated on the things around you, instead of being a nazi fuck you'd see that a lot of people could have replaced Hitler because he cared for his people and hated jews, and everyone loves that except the jews, especially 60 years ago.

So please, keep your mindless drivel to yourself because Hitler wasn't a genious, that's why he lost the war, otherwise I'm sure even I would think differently.

Remember the outcome, Hitler is a LOOOOSER
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i interpret richie as saying how this guy, adolf hitler can manipulate people so much that he wiped out an entire race.

takes a charasmatic man to do that.

with that being said, what he did was wrong. but he had great methodology
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I watched a show the other night about this. There is video footage of Hilter with his left hand shaing while he's walking, just like he had Parkinsons. And if you go through video footage of the last five - ten years of his life you'll notice he always has he left hand tucked into his side.
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The "Blitzkrieg" was developed by the general staff before Hitler took power .

So , I'm still waiting for any evidence that Hitler was a genius .
yap way before.

He only had a lot of charisma, ever seen one of his speeches? Damn!
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I watched a show the other night about this. There is video footage of Hilter with his left hand shaing while he's walking, just like he had Parkinsons. And if you go through video footage of the last five - ten years of his life you'll notice he always has he left hand tucked into his side.
Yeah I watched that show as well, notice in the early videos etc, he's always using both hands to make gestures, while in the later footage of course his left is at the side.

They also have one video where it shows his left hand shaking ala parkinsons.

They basically were saying a lot of the stupid moves he made were due to the fact he knew he was dying and wanted to act while he could.

Plus he was so fucked on speed.
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I watched a show the other night about this. There is video footage of Hilter with his left hand shaing while he's walking, just like he had Parkinsons. And if you go through video footage of the last five - ten years of his life you'll notice he always has he left hand tucked into his side.
Itīs possible that he had Parkinsons, but his megalomania was bigger than that. He wanted to subjugate the whole world,thatīs why he lost the war. U canīt attack every country without beeing punished for that. By the way, did U realized that Hitler was a little "dwarf" with braun hair but wanted the "ARYAN RACE"(like he told in his ARYAN-RACE-THEORY) to be the greatest power in the world with himselve on "top", if thatīs not ill what else then ?
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There is no doubt he rushed the war towards the end, so there is no doubt that it could be true.
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No he was not a genius, is more like the Germans were blinded not say stupid, and thank good you do not have to speak the German language nor you have a German mentality, Germans are one if not the most complex people on earth... it isn't easy to be a German or live in Germany.. it sucks.. thank god we speak English in this land and thank god for all the colors we have here..
It is a very difficult thing to talk about WW II and Hitler. First of all he was not a German but an Austrian. Second is that Hitler used the situation and maybe German attitude to law and so on. But there is a scientific document written in the US that in the situation of 1933 every country could caught into Hitlers trap.

Having a look at the war itself it is never one party only good or only evil. Polish people are forced to settle in former german parts of "Ostpreussen" by the russians. Donīt forget the behaviour of russian troops during the last days of the war.

My grandmotherīs family for example - living in Danzig (today Gdansk) - were first victims of Hitlers "GESTAPO" and later victims of russians.

So Iīm afraid it is impossible to devide the parties into good and evil. But there is one thing Iīm quiet sure about: Hitler never was a person to be called genious.

And Iīm more worried about the future. I believe in the follwing: if a similar situation like the one in Germany in 1933 will happen to another country today, there will be someone like Hitler who causes another war.
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Itīs possible that he had Parkinsons, but his megalomania was bigger than that. He wanted to subjugate the whole world,thatīs why he lost the war. U canīt attack every country without beeing punished for that. By the way, did U realized that Hitler was a little "dwarf" with braun hair but wanted the "ARYAN RACE"(like he told in his ARYAN-RACE-THEORY) to be the greatest power in the world with himselve on "top", if thatīs not ill what else then ?
Ask a Black man in Africa if he wants Black people to be at the top of the world, with himself as their leader. Or better still; ask a Jewish man the same question. That theory in itself has resounded throughout history, and whether it is Napoleon, or George Bush, most wars are a result of that mentality in some sense or the other. In itself the mentality is not at all ill (perhaps a naturally feeling for most), but indeed his means and extent (the exact ideology that is) to which he promoted may be.
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Ask a Black man in Africa if he wants Black people to be at the top of the world, with himself as their leader. Or better still; ask a Jewish man the same question. That theory in itself has resounded throughout history, and whether it is Napoleon, or George Bush, most wars are a result of that mentality in some sense or the other. In itself the mentality is not at all ill (perhaps a naturally feeling for most), but indeed his means and extent (the exact ideology that is) to which he promoted may be.
U r right. But I picked up that special point, because Hitler made a real biological/-genetically theory out of this aryan race stuff. He forced teachers to teach children this theory in school. The irony is that "ARYANS" typically were tall with blue eyes and blond hair and Hitler was like I already said, small, braun haired and came originally from AUSTRIA ! He was not a GERMAN. Not even in his self-made stupid theory. That I was making fun of.
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Always great to notice that people think they should have an opinion while they know shit about the subject .
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Always great to notice that people think they should have an opinion while they know shit about the subject .
Not everything on this board written is simply shit. Donīt be to selfconfident man !
Although uīre a bit too arrogant writing I liked some parts of Ur text.
But notice that some of us have relatives in germany and know much about the second world war because of this fact. So donīt judge too fast about other opinions. Sometimes people tell true storries and not only "shit from the internet" like U called it !
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Always great to notice that people think they should have an opinion while they know shit about the subject .
Donīt be too selfconfident man ! Not everything written here is shit !
Although ur articulation is a bit too arrogant I liked some passages of ur text,
but notice that some of the people here have relatives in germany and are not talking only blah-blah from the internet okay !?!
And some of us were studying history in germany at university, so donīt "talk too loud" about people having not an opinion or knowing a shit about second world war !
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The guy was the ultimate piece of shit but was a natural public speaker that knew how to make the masses swoon. We're damn lucky that he was a paranoid fuck because if he had listened to his generals rather than killing a lot of them he very likely would have won the war.

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A truly scary and frightening thought but it was a VERY realistic possibility and one that we were much closer to than people would ever readily like to admit.
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Hitler was a purley evil and mentally insane man, but he WAS a genious, it's hard to even question that.

He took a crumbling nation ... a nation with more NEEDS than it knew what do with, and created:

1) A place to put the blame for EVERYTHING that was wrong.

2) A solution.

Have you seen video of him speaking? Talk about charisma, Hitler was a born leader who took advantage of the desperation and destitution of an entire nation.

If he had been a good/sane man, he could have done incredible things.

NOT acknowledging his genious is a huge fucking insult to Germans and Jews alike.

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Yes I lived in Germany for two years (US Army I was stationed there) I went to Berlin in three ocasions and you are right is a very diverse city. Don't get me wrong tho I liked Germany and Germans were pretty cool but they are very complex and their system is difficult in just about every way...
Sorry, but I think you didnīt live in Germany for you didnīt live among germans. But you are right: germans are quite difficult e.g. what law and other rules belongs to. But I think there is no "German" as there is no "American". Maybe there are some average statistics, but everyone is a very special human being and averages are a problem.

If your feet are in a fridge and your head is in the oven, your average temperature might be very well.
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Sorry, but I think you didnīt live in Germany for you didnīt live among germans. But you are right: germans are quite difficult e.g. what law and other rules belongs to. But I think there is no "German" as there is no "American". Maybe there are some average statistics, but everyone is a very special human being and averages are a problem.

If your feet are in a fridge and your head is in the oven, your average temperature might be very well.
I lived on the post but I worked in the Hospital amongst Germans, I had to use their phone systems, internet connections, I had to use their roads, I have to eat their food, watch their tv, I partied in their clubs drank their beers, eat their food, travel all over germany, stayed in their hotels... would that be enough.. don't talk without knowing the facts...
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If afterwards you still think Hitler and his men were geniuses, (spelled correctly) marching millions of innocent men, women and children (and not just Jews) to take a bullet to the back of the head in the plains of Eastern Europe, or into the death camps at Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Chelmno, Majdanek, and Auschwitz-Birkenau, then <b>YOU</B> have a special place in my ignore file.
retard you are SO clueless
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:08 PM   #92
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Rich you are a moron and I am glad that you can't afford to travel to any of the shows. You keep picking role models like this and you'll end up homeless in a gutter.
something expected, from someone i wouldnt expect it from.

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Old 01-29-2004, 07:24 PM   #93
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Rich your a moron ;)

#1, at times Hitler seems powerful in his intent, does not mean he was a genious or that he was a good person

#2, the war started in 1939 so wtf are you talking about going to war in 1940?

#3, if you actually got of this past dictator's dick and concentrated on the things around you, instead of being a nazi fuck you'd see that a lot of people could have replaced Hitler because he cared for his people and hated jews, and everyone loves that except the jews, especially 60 years ago.

So please, keep your mindless drivel to yourself because Hitler wasn't a genious, that's why he lost the war, otherwise I'm sure even I would think differently.
#1, i NEVER said he was a good man or that his intent/actions were good. Fuck him for what he has done. But dont deny him of being pure genious.

#2, notice the first words in that line say "was it 1940 ...", means i dont know the fucking year, just going by memory.

#3, you or I could have replaced him but it doesnt mean we would have a billion german fuckers following our every thought, and carrying out our every command.

And we were alot closer to losing that was than most people realize. Its scary how close it came

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speaking german is rad.
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Every single step this man ever took in his career, was solely to gain the following of the people.

Untrue..

He wanted to be an artist for more than 1/2 of his life. It was not until his disollutions of Post WWI and his eventual imprisonment (see Mein Kamf) that he started to become politically inclined and motivated. Matter of fact, in 1913 he tried to avoid military service and moved to Munich. It was not until 1919, when he joined the worker's party that he started having political aspirations.

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Old 01-29-2004, 09:02 PM   #97
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I say USA for ever !
...but Russia by the way was the first country that used concentration camps for not wellcome minoroties ! Donīt forget that !
WAR and KILLING is always evil and not genious !!!
Russia was the first country? Man, you speak like the world was just invented one hundred years ago.

Most of you should open a history book from time to time before spreading some of this undocumented goofy stuff to the gullible masses.

Pity..
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First off, to mix in a positive about such a bad person is sick. Why discuss what you believe is his positive side? He's a genius? Is that like saying Saddam is a genius?

Having the ability to win over the masses and speak well in public isn't a sign of being genius. Especially when the minds of the people he controlled were scared of being shot and killed. Making people follow you out of fear is not a sign of genius.

Am I a genius because I know how to pack a webmaster event? I can drive the masses of webmasters into a room to listen to me on stage, does that make me smart?

I'm all for debating topics and utilizing chat boards, but when we talk in positives about horrible killers, it's just sick. I'm sure if you were affected by Hitler, lost some family from it, you would be banned from your family for talking shit like this.

And even if he is genius, so what? Why talk about it? What's your point caller.
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Artist maybe?
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