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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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BVF - ROFLMAO, thanks for the laugh
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give me another year marc and lets revisit this thread.. that is ofcoarse unless you sue me and put me out of business. btw, wanna trade some exit traffic? lol
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so are you planning on lowering payouts marc?
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As far as members areas go..... I would be the first person to say that ours are average at best, 5 out of 10. Have tried to redo them totally. A massive project that requires capable employees and programmers. Anyone know any?
I would say ARS members areas are above average, I would give them an 8. With so many sites, VERY hard to have that many separate and top notch members areas.
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Its all about listening. So many people just do not know how to listen. Open your ears, shut your mouth and listen. The customers will always tell you how to make money if you just listen. The money is in their pockets not yours. Just listen and they will tell you exactly how to take it out and place it in your cash register.
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What is amazing Brad is that at an 8 they still don't convert. Of course I know the numbers from some all exclusive content programs that don't convert trial to full any better. Its not JUST the content but its definitely time to get away from the cookie cutter shit out there.
pimpdogg - if you thought for 1 second I hated you and that is why you attack me, you're wrong. Last year is business. My opinion to your professionalism is just my opinion. I get the sense you want to 'be cool' with me. Your last post made me laugh ![]() |
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ars is like anywhere between a 2 and a 7.5. their sites vary widely, but some of their old ones were putrid last time i looked. like pure trash i'd be embarassed to pimp out to my worst enemy. the best ratings i reserve for ones that i'm not going to mention here cuz i don't want them getting promoted any more than they already are. lol. sorry.
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Hooper - a change in model isn't about lowering payouts. Out with the old, in with the new!
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Your opinion of me is way off base. boards are boards, and business is business. I will be the first to admit I am as unprofessional as they come when it comes to internet games. but there sint anyone here who says I do not follow through with what I say I will do. I dont dislike you at all, I just think the 'industry leader' thing is stretching it.. cheers Marc. its all good
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I would give nasty dollars members areas a 10. For a progra that buys 1000's of joins a day, they have best members areas IMHO.
Bangbros even around anymore? Thought they were one shot wonder.
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Troll - we're talking about MEMBERS AREAS and the term converting is meant Trial to Full - not traffic to sales
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pimp - I didn't post that comment to sound arrogant. Obviously you consider us a leader, you like our BYOT program, you liked how we named it, and you stride to be as big as me
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well whatever you have up your sleeve marc i'm sure it'll be interesting.
best of luck.
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The future is in subculture communities. Communities + Porn.
http://www.suicidegirls.com http://www.ishotmyself.com:80/public/main.php http://www.camwhores.com http://www.biggercity.com/home/default.asp
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There is a difference between capable employees, and self starters in this business. It is possible to be a very good part of the machine, without being able to put it all together on their own.
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I've seen your MILF site too and it isn't that far behind - maybe it would be even better if the guys who shot your content remembered take the lighting with them when they did a shoot.
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... me too. I think I must be something like 0:4k since I last had a sale with them.
I'm not sending them much traffic anymore but I used to do 1:20 so it really is disappointing to see such pathetic figures these days.
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MR ARS, YOU NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP
WHY IS IT THAT FUCK UPS ARE NEVER YOUR FAULT IT IS ALWAYS GIM OR IBILL OR THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON IT IS A COMMON THREAD WITH YOU AND YOUR PROBLEMS THAT IT IS NEVER YOUR FAULT I READ THE ARS BOARD AND EVERYTIME SOMETHING GOES WRONG IT IS NEVER YOUR FAULT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY WHO MADE THESE SITES AND PUSHED THEM ON GIM IN THE ?DEAL? NOW IT IS ALL THEIR FAULT WHY DID YOU DROP FREE TRIALS LAST MONTH WHY NOT JUST TELL ALL YOUR WEBMASTERS YOU HAVE BEEN BROKEN OUT UNDER THE NEW VISA RULES AND YOU ARE SCRAMBLING TO STAY IN BUSINESS. DENY THE ABOVE SINCE THIS IS A TRUTH FEST, WHY NOT TELL ALL OF YOUR LOVING WEBMASTERS YOU ARE LESS THAN 60 DAYS FROM BEING PUT OUT OF BUSINESS SO NOW YOU ARE TELLING WEBMASTERS THAT A CHANGE NEEDS TO HAPPEN YOU ARE SCRAMBLING TO MAKE MORE CHANGES BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT GET YOUR CHARGE BACK RATE IN LINE QUICK ENOUGH GIM SAW THIS COMING AND OPENED PIMP ROLL INSTEAD OF POCKETING YOUR 1MIL(US) A MONTH YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO CONTENT AND INNOVATIVE IDEAS INSTEAD OF TRUCKING IT OUT TO THE FARM IF WE ARE GOING TO BE LAYING IT ALL ON THE LINE WHY NOT TELL THE REAL REASONS BEHIND YOUR INNOVATIVE CHANGES YOU BUILT YOUR COMPANY ON THE BACK OF MAX CASH?S DEMISE ? KARMA IS A MOTHER FUCKER YOUR ASS IS ABOUT TO BE PUT OUT OF THE GAME |
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ARS was aggressive at the right time and Marc's ideas were very innovative, although I think now with the current state of the industry, drastic changes will be very tough to make.
It is much more difficult to plan so far ahead with Visa being half way up everyones bunghole.. and I think webmasters in general now are more willing to change traffic a lot quicker then they were in the past. And small/medium sized programs seem to be flourishing now, while larger programs are faced with more difficulty. Victims of their own success.. ARS has been #1 for some time and I am sure will continue to be, but just as the market has changed, so have the webmasters. I look forward to copying, err I mean emulating, your revised program! Chris |
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Im going to retype my post in CAPS..damn it!
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sad but true
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you know what i'd really REALLY like to see?
paysite owners paying people who genuinely know each niche to make each site "talk the talk" and to help choose the content. that generic text sucks, but if you want a site to keep its members, you need to give them what those particular members want. a guy who likes 18 year old boys doesn't have to join a site with a bunch of 28 year olds on the tour, and uses text no guy into teen guys would use. and then the member area full of hairy guys, mature guys, generic guys, and balding twinks over 30 *LOL* the same applies to teen girl sites, and most other niches of sites in large programs. why not sell the people using what they want to see and then give them what they want in the member area? no large program seems to try that - they'd rather complicate things. when i see some of the programs i use that know their member base and the retention of this site, i just gotta keep asking myself and the program owners - why don't you do that? and they always tell us it's not that simple. but i suspect it is. i talk to our rep at epoch who tells me how well exclusive content reality sites do, retention wise. maybe it's really that simple - make your tour really reflect the niche and the site's content and give them regular updates of the content in the niche they want. |
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Marc, if you were into cumshots, which paysite would you rather be a member of?
http://www.fantasticfacials.com OR http://www.cumonherface.com/splash.htm
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there is no one leader in this industry im sure you will agree. Do I aspire to be as large as ARS? absolutely. BYOT is a great idea that I took advantage of.. but I disagree that you own any right to it, or gave its name value.. search google man.. byot is all over google for similar systems.. and there are atleast 3 other adult programs that offer byot other than ARS before I cam along.. dont hate the player, hate the game ![]() we will be friends one day.. I will grow on you like a fungus that you love to hate ![]()
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HOW FUCKING FUNNY SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE... ANYONE ELSE GUESS WHO THIS GUY IS BESIDES ME?
*********************************************** So anyway, at the end of the day, what have we learned from all these pages of thread? I'm speaking strictly business... The traditional pay per join on a recurring surfer membership doesn't work. Fraud is ridiculous, surfers AND affiliates, and I'll wager a few bucks that before the end of the year the model is dead all the way around. Surfers cancel, many times before they even log in. The ones that don't cancel that fast don't stay long, EVEN WITH ORIGINAL AND EXCLUSIVE CONTENT, in numbers that make the revenue model viable as it stands. The sites that do retain that well don't have enough members to compare with the huge affiliate program model, so let's not have a debate on how someone with 100 members can retain them for a year, they still don't make the money that someone doing 100 joins a day does. Visa and Mastercard have had about enough with the entire business, that's obvious from the tighter and tighter restrictions they keep putting into place. The federal government is most likely going for some new regulations, one way or another from some rumors I hear as well. Who was the big program that dumped pretty much all their affiliates recently? I don't see them out of business, just spending alot less time on fraud control and fighting chargebacks due to 'overmarketing' by overzealous resellers desperate to make a sale. Oh well, enough ranting from me for the moment. |
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This isnt a vote on what is best for the surfer..this is what is best for webmasters to make the most money possible, while keeping surfers as long as possible..
I think what ARS is looking to do is maximize both.. |
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i agree totally and content will be king... its all about providing the surfer with regular updates, interactive abilities to promote a community and unique content...
Thats why when we produced Mens-Network we did just that, 10 updates a day and much more. This is why stuff like www.uniqueplugins.com works so well in keeping members.
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wondered how long it would take for this thread to attract spam
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Whelp, as soon as they post that announcement in thier management panel, looks like they'll have one less advertiser. My job is to send them the traffic and get a trial signup - it's thier advertiser's job to convert it. If the advertiser's conversion rate is less than what he likes, the advertiser should make a better ad.
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It appears that you have signed up for an ARS webmaster account in the past 24 hours. According to the Terms of Service, that is not allowed. ![]()
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-He said there will be no paycut -He said they will not turn to a per active model My guess is they will be comming with a whole bunch of GIM gold sites (better tour, better content) |
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Calculate the value per click and it doesn't matter if they shave you or not. Assuming two sponsors A and B, they both are equally as likely to pay you (you have valid references for both sponsors). Sponsor A shaves you, but your traffic is worth $0.02 per raw click based on your tracking. Sponsor B does not shave you, but your traffic is worth $0.01 per raw click based on your tracking. Which one will pay you more money for the same traffic? I'm not condoning shaving. However, evaluating sponsors in this manner is the only way to accurately measure the performance of 1 sponsor vs. another. |
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take this guy out to a drop off to view the cliff then this is a wise move. *shove* he.he my english not so good.. |
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