Free Porn Is The Most Profitable Porn

its good for cutting your teeth on thats for sure....

yes, this is a viable business model. one of many.

but there will always be a market for the premium priced "boutique" site that produces original content.

producing original exclusive content costs money. you have to recoup that $ in the form of higher membership fees.

generally, to command top dollar membership fees you have to give the surfer something they can't find anywhere else.

not at the adult bookstore, not at the adult video outlet.

if you can do that, and produce a quality product, you can collect a higher recurring fee.

and there is a feeling amongst many smut consumers---the lower the price, the lower the titillation.

many times you can raise your pricing and enjoy the same number of sales on the same content.

smut is not a commodity sale, it is a psychological sale.

damn it

They are dead already.
They just do not know it yet.

But they will evolve with the scape of the Net.

only the ones with shit content that fuck the surfer.
those with quality $30-$40 sites enjoy the loyal members
that migrate from the shitty sites.

I seriously can't believe a guy that charges $5 per minute for cam shows is questioning the value of porn. People will pay well over $40 for something they like. I have some domains for cheap ass paysites but I by no means intent to fill it to the gills with content. What in the world happens to make someone getting thousands of $ a month from some of your single viewers to think people don't want to spend $40 a month. It makes absolutely no sense.

I think people should create a bunch of GROUPS, of places where they can get free porn, where everyone can make USE of it!

Hey, UseGroups. Catchy name. Now if someone would just invent them. :Graucho


... My next idea is a place where surfers signup and get all their porn "4 free" ... dunno what to call that one yet though, but I'm working on it.

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<font face="verdana" color="ffffff" size="1">Free for the first 24 hours of the subscription. Upon expiration of the 24 hour period your account will be billed 10,000USD. </font>

you are a clown.

:glugglug

Swoit may be a good name?.

:glugglug

btw, haven't seen a sale in 1,500 uniqes wiht "magic". Throw me a sign up lensman..I just need $40 to go for a check.

:1orglaugh

I think about tushy. Damn uniqe but not my niches.

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you are a smart mofo but I whould make it $97 :winkwink:

thats gotte be the best point made yet. I agree I have no Idea why anyone would pay $5 a min to talk to a chick. But they do like crazy. I have no Idea why 1 customer would spend $22,000 in a month but it happened at our site. That model was stoked and so was the referring webmaster :)

I just think at some point thats where it is going....

Did the price of phone sex drop like a rock what was the high point per miniute of phone sex and what is it today ?

This is kinda my point what I am saying is the big content producing mega name band comapny will have the resources and manpower to off up all niches exclusive content in all those niches and different front ends that sell the $5 sites and just like the companys who now sell 50 sites for the same price... it would be like 500 sites for theprcie of one you just enter through your favorite gateway or niche....

ok check out this idea

the mega company does not have a affiliate program anymore and just acts as a backend for a ton of other paysites with affiliate programs. doing billling and content and whatnot and let all the other companies simply market it for them..

I think the ARS thread basically backs up this notion that paysites at $39 bucks recurring paying out $35 are loosing the battle to higher content sites charging less money.

maybye there are endless dumb surfers who will but the $39 and stay with no contnet in the sites but i stil think low cost sites with mega content are gonna win in the end its just a long atrition to get there

great :)

If the user download a lot at 5 $ a month you could loose $ just on BW .

Look at yahoo games they charge 15 $ and make good money .10 $ sites are just fine right now :)

We started our 900 lines which were 2 of the first national phone sex numbers at .50 cents first minute .35 cents each additional minutes.

Without any competition the call counts and minutes were off the charts obviously.

Next step up was $2 a minute, then to $2.95, $3.95, $4.95 and $5.95 where its pretty much peaked at today in the industry.

That's about $300 an hour about the same you pay to get phone fucked by your attorney when his meter is running.

The biggest amount from a single customer was a bit over $25,000 of calls.

The biggest amount form a single entity was over $135,000. Which came from a state government. And I'll not mention the name here.

haahahah NICE !

$0.25 per year! Yes!! They rebill for life !

exactly...only cookie-cutter sites have to fear (for now tho) :2 cents:

we shall see only time will tell if this prediction turns true or not

no lack of quality and creativity do that

Nice blast from the past post, Lars!

:winkwink:

The trick is:



Fair price ($30+/mo is fair) for unique GOOD content that the surfers want! Content they can't get somewhere else! It's the niches people :)

Just wait until 50centsitescash.com launches!

We have for a long time, had joins for 5$ for 30 days. Then rebilling at 24 or 34 for the next 30. We did 5 for 30, and rebill at 5, but it actually worked out better at the higher rebill rate.

I've got the answer... let's just shut down all paysites and give the surfer free access to everything. I'm not reducing my price of $24.95 and I have no problem converting

Carry on :2 cents:

4 pages of ppl shut out of business by the walmart of pron rofl

I'm not sure if anyone already posted this or not... but we all know that $1.00 porn sites (paysites) exist, and we all know that PussyCash.com offers $6.00/mo "megasites" and has for quite a while now.

Good luck to those of you that are coming out with cheaper sites, I think that is a good thing.

sounds good to me

They can offer a million movies at five CENTS a month. I'll still be charging 24.95 and people will still be paying for it.

I like your sense of humor. :1orglaugh

i could buy a $2 box of pizza at the grocery store but instead i pay $13 for a large pizza from pizza hut

i could drink free water but i buy bottled water at $2/gallon

i could buy store brand cola which tastes just like coca cola for $1.50 but i buy a 12 pack of coca cola for $3.50

i could stay at a motel6 but i stay at a hyatt

i could buy a geo metro but i buy a corvette

i could get free hosting but instead i get a few dedicated servers

i could walk around with sandwich bags on my feat but instead i wear shoes


lol you probably get the idea by now. Of course $1 sites with tons of upsells would be profitable but people are still willing to pay more for the exact same thing.

Tgps are free......... chatboards-chatrooms too...... groups........p2p

Why give the idiots more cheap shit.

hmm good point !

[QUOTE=LegendaryLars]Here is a thought what if the big content providers tomorrow decided to no longer sell content and only keep it all for themselves and their new $5 sites how many paysites would have next to nothing inside their sites. most of the feds and content are controlled bya few players..QUOTE]
You are late on that one the good content providers are already doing it and as the paysite brings in more money than the content expect a decision to be made on which is the best way to go. Plus with most people drinving down the price of content it will bring that day forward.

The future is not in bringing down the price of membership, but raising the benefits of membership. For $1 a day a paysite provides 20 minutes to 5 hours of "Entertainment" fun with your dick in your hand.

Supply a product that is worth a dollar a day and the member will not care if it's a dollar or 18 cents. What is the more satisfying, $1.00 a day for fresh new good content to jerk of to or $0.18 a day to jerk off to stuff that has been around for years?

The adult net is changing and as more experienced players enter and those alreay in it learn it will change faster. Plus the surfer is no longer a newbie, he's been a member of paysites before he signed up to this months one. He now has a level of expectation, meet that level and he will remain a member for as long as it takes to consume what he likes. He will then move onto another paysite for his pleasures, the belief that he's a one off guy that forgets to cancel is stupid.

Plus comparing a magazine to a paysite is a good idea, however your sums are wrong.

Magazine = 100 pages less 25% of advertising pages = 75 pages of content.
This is around 10 sets consisting on 20 pictures, 5 stories and 3 articles.
Total reading time 5 hours tops. Then it's all "Non Exclusive" content.
5 hours / $5.00 = $1.00 an hour.

Paysite, delivers 1000 sets/videos. Sets have 100 pictures, videos 15 minutes. Total viewing time 200 hours, over 3 months thats $90 for 200 hours. Thats $0.45 cents an hour. This is with a small-medium size site.

The trick is to give him enough content that he wants to look at, not to lower the price. Lowering the price will make him think you only have $5 value in your site.

Traffic has never been KING. CONVERSION is king.

All the traffic in the world is useless if you can't convert it, so you have to sell him something, if only an upsell to another site.

As the surfer gets more choices, more educated and better suppliers, those who think throwing enough mud at a wall is the way are going to go the same way the dodo went.