man I need moe "NUT"

but soon soon

ahh, good call...you may have some good possibility on wagering that way...

hell, look at what Ron did, he used his powers of foresight and innovation and, uhm, well you know what else...and pulled that 'hit it and quit it' thing...



no problem with that, but I'm guessing if you're willing to stick around through the upcoming processing issues that aren't over with, and upcoming obscenity issues, then he might just ride it out and reap some more graavy after those 'sets of doubles' come crashing through....

say yeeeah for white trash pigs in a blanket :)

yeah thats what keeps me up nights otherwise I would do this forever

very true...

one of the main differences with the others and Lars is that Lars covers his ass way better than anyone else i know. He's usually 3 steps ahead of anyone else in this industry with his business plans.

I like what this old crusty military boss told me in a previous life....keep doing it until it's not fun anymore...


:glugglug

ROFL !!
I LUV YA MAN !! (not in a gay manboobs-rubbing way of course!) :eek7

You are one person I can slam on for a lark, and you don't threaten to sue my ass, take my house, or financially ruin me ... you can see the humor in it and play along (too bad more of these digital gangstaz could not follow your lead). :(

Sleazy you are a real class act Bro:thumbsup and one day everybody else will realize that too !

thats what my wife said

haveta be when your legendary in your own mind and ya have a small penis...

That's "gary"

I would be happy as hell with 100 $5 a month sites that all upsold to the per min cam shit.

Its just how avs upsells used to be so good. Its traffic of valid CC holders who you know buy porn.

you dont know how true that is "alaska gary" KC

lol :)

your's let you off easy...mine told me to keep doing it even if it wasn't...but she's a bit on the dom side...




:Graucho

I do not think the business model of subscription based sites will fade, I believe that honest business will be forced to grow holding there own merchant accounts.

A fast paced industry like ours lookin to turn a profit on 1 buck aint gonna be a Primary focus for returns based on the 1 buck being processed. 1 dollar or 5 dollar sites is perhaps more of a facilitative use really. The facilitative use is of course is creating a positive environment for upsells.

Whether 1 or 5 makes no difference in my opinion. You can sock the subscriber today or later and I think some businessmen these days are trying harder to sock a card holder first instead gain the subscribers trust in an upsell environment later.

However......
If I may go on. Take note that alot of sites that are openning these days holding smaller amounts of content that is exclusive. They ask for a small amount 20-25 or so in the amateur markets particularly with emphasise on exclusive niche content.

One thing that is very important to realise is that to construct a warehouse of it "all" will not do. There is always going to be a niche out there holding content that is exclusive to that site.
Everyting is a click away and the more ya put it all in one nest the more likely it will be under marketed.

Sigh ya guys asleep yet?
I think ya smart guys know where I am going with this...
Gnight.

if the customer is truely satisfied with the $25 for the niche content then so be it but the volume is not there with the niche stuff. I agree there will always be room for lots of small independent niche stuff, but I am talking about making more than 2-5 mil a month in sales. there are not a lot of companies doing that now. adn I am saying those that do that will have to go to this new model or get eaten alive by teh big brand names

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What next:1orglaugh

hmm sleep is sounding sooo good now

50 ermm 75 Future big players!

Well let me put it this way.
The guys that are openning 1 dollar sites or even 5 dollar sites will be the traffic controllers in the near future.:Graucho

yup, and who can figure out how to to keep the affiliate payout the highest and the member retention the longest will win...

word

maybe instead of lowering prices, site owners
should make their sites worth what is charged.

bingo imho. massive consolidation, scaling, and a starbucks-style market-flooding of adult, are tactics i can see becoming realities in 5 years.

:)

What do you prefer? 40 dollar in 40 months or 40 dollar in 1 month ?

And those 1 dollar sites, if surfers see that they will never join a $30-$40 buck site anymore. I think Lars is right.

im no fan of 10 buck sites either

A.K.A the killers of the $30-$40 bucks sites

Exactly, this is one of the most stupiest "serious" thread of the year.... so far. :1orglaugh

there was a time about year and half ago where there were NO free trials other than CE. sign ups at paid trial sites were rocking.
ever since than sign ups are down.

same as 4 years ago

food for thought

if surfers are forced to pay, THEY'LL pay

Lars, out of all people you remember COPA days, sign ups were rocking back than with little free porn avalable

same is happening right now with the flood of free trials, $1 trials, $1month and so on

I kind of agree.. I think most people give surfers more credit that they deserve. Surfers buy whatever the hell we sell them. They buy it at the price we try to sell it to them. Of course, there are different rates of success (conversion ratios & payouts).

Haven't you noticed that you can sell memberships to amateur, hardcore, cam sites, opt-in email, penis pills, browser tools like popup blockers, etc. etc. with the same traffic?

Always Be Closing!

exactly makret forces will eventually drive the price down.

I think we are already seeing it

but the biggerst thing nthat will drive prices down will be visa and mc cracking down on all the extra charging that goes on still today

yes surfers are very dumb they have to be burned by people multiple times before they wisen up. its slow but it happens...

consoles are on the way out now its download hell. and email is way less effective. just saying over time this will be what happens could be wrong, just the way i see it and it may take a lot longer than I think there is always new innovations in this biz that change everything overnight

Back to the Nickelodeon days ?? lets get some old whores on there guming everyone to death:1orglaugh

:) I am just trying to look at all the possibilities of the biz in the next few years. And this makes sense to me, but who knows what is in store for the industry.

POKER ............Lars ..........................POKER

also I just checked my credit card statment and I am poster boy for the avg person who looks at porn.

here's what on my card this month.


$4.95 DAINEWS.nu (celeb site)

$6.95 Site Matter counter service.

$9.95 Rhodposy music service.(any songyou can think of is there and legal. they have a deal with record companies)

$9.95 B-o-a-r-d-t-r-a-c-k-e-r service(I know, I forgot to cancel it again for the 3rd str8 month now.)

$4.95 Type Pad blog extras and hosting


$48.00 12min. 1-900-eat-cock ($4.00min. those bastards)


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$40 pay sites 0


so I see a pattern in my monthly spending. Low monthly services are the future. With boardband getting bigger every day. Giving people what they want(lots of info and content) they will pay.

I'm gonna start 1pennysites.com Rebills forever. Pays $50 per sign-up.

Guys who think ahead and innovate are here to stay. The rest are history:2 cents:

I agree with that, so how many programs now offer $1 monthly sales and how many offer $10 monthly ?

Sign me up for that!!!