Aloha TJ... How's it going man?

I've always wondered does your nick come from "The Jimmy" episode of Seinfeld?

"I have invented something is gunna revolutionize the world !! Are you ready for this ?? SE-VEN MINUTE ABS !!!" :Graucho

great fucking flick! :winkwink: :thumbsup

BTW .... 52 wooden nickel recurring paysites !! :2 cents: :2 cents:

Does that even cover B/W charges? Even at 10 cents it's only 10 gig. Plus everything else.

I don't think i'm ready to change from 40 to 10, 5, or 1.

With all the Visa changes, I came with our $1 sites to increase our overall monthly transactions and have some damn happy surfers..

Do these surfers upsell to our 10 dollar and 40 dollar sites? Hell yes they do.

Any membership that low should not be able to have access to my full catalog on videos.. (over 100 gigs of DRM uncut videos)

Point is.. Yes it converts like a mag program..

But in the long run.. The bottom line is not there.

The lower chargeback rates aren't entirely due to the lower price. On average, a chargeback costs the issuing bank $25, once you factor in paperwork, employees' salaries, fees, courtesy credits, etc. As such, a good percentage of issuing banks will simply write off smaller charges rather than go through the whole chargeback. Only in extreme or worthwhile cases will the bank do a chargeback.

Heya KC, it's going pretty damm well this week....

How youuuuu doinnnn?



and yeh, that is actually ONE of the facets of my nick....amazing you picked up on that...most people think it's merely a ref to a slang for the male anatomy...

I LOVE that episode of Seinfeld...the 3rd person talk is a blast...


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PS: rumor has it that Kimmy LOVES the "The" nicks and almost became TheKimmy until I jumped onto the scene with my glorious nick ;)

Just to clarify... I wasn't busting Lars' balls.

Pricing models are interesting. The key to making successfull pricing decision is Test, Evaluate, Repeat.

The primary goal should be to get the maximum value out of the surfer as possible, so that you can afford to pay the affiliates as much as possible. Different people have different models..

Now that exit consoles are becoming less and less effective due to blockers, etc. I think we're going to see a lot more emphasis being placed on retention than it has been in the past. Especially for PPS sponsors.

I think it may well be I think the surfer is getting smarter. just like they did with free sites.. just look how new tgps crushed picposts which crushed regualr free sites....

content will eventually be king... the scams have to wear out first and the surfers have to get burnt out on them and seasoned.... just like when they learned to do the trial and cancel and move to the next pay site and do the same over and over

Read above :)

Because he sells video/streaming by the minute, not by the month, and makes a lot of money doing it.

If Lars owned Playboy, he could offer the magazine, stories, articles, and even some pics for a low price because his money would be made on bringing people to the site then upselling the live and recorded shows.

That's what I think he's thinking. :)

thats a good point

but someone will figure out more ways to still pop..

oh yeah downloads do that :)

In the TGP game this is already the case.

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in many games (in and outside of the adult biz) this is the case


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now I just ned PLA to go to $2 bucks a share so I can load up on stock and buy em out but since its at 16 bucks I think I cant do that..

I just think surfers would stay longerr if they felt they were geting their monies worth or they liked a particular writer or funy stuff or whatever broader range of contetn to attract and keep the surfer

Here is a thought what if the big content providers tomorrow decided to no longer sell content and only keep it all for themselves and their new $5 sites how many paysites would have next to nothing inside their sites. most of the feds and content are controlled bya few players..

thats why I am saying more people are going to become producers of their own stuff.

example CE just bought a shitload of toon content..

Woa did I see someone say Content is king?
I used to get slapped in the head for saying such things in the past.
I got faith in content.
ALOT. Especially exclusive.

agreed

I am talking about as much pics as all the tgps together and about more video than anyone can think of and more live feeds and articles and stories and exclusive content of super stars and celebs and stuff like that things a tgp player can not put together.

not withought very good connections and lots of staff and credibility of a brand like hustler or playboy

thats cuzz traffic has been king since 1994

it is still king but it is smarter traffic each year that passes

I think content will become more important as the billing gets squeezed and the industry matures and the margins get squeezed even more

Sorry to intrude on this discussion:)

Hehhe it is clear the next generation players got there thinking caps on. Pardon my excitement.

I'm going the other way on this.


$80 a month sites


Never been done before!:thumbsup

all ass kissing aside, I gotta give it to Lars, it's refreshing to see someone with some decent foresight...



if I had to lay bets down, I'm thinking he is someone that will be around for quite a while...

i doubt it.

hehehe

Some very interesting ideas being thrown out in this thread !!

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Am I on the right board ??? I WANT MY DRAMA !!!

Lars .... put a BigMac on a fishing line, and hold it over Sleazy's head, and then move it away when he goes to grab it !!

I might take that bet. If Lars isn't around for a long time, it'll be because he's made his "Nut" and he's done. It will certainly be he own choice though!

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I think this is the ONLY way cookie cutter sites with shitty member areas and non-exclusive content can hang.

Shoot some interesting content and make a unique site.

the bastard already did that at the TGP VIP party with the cocktail weenies.

he's been around longer than most GFYers put together
and no i'm not saying he's old :)

point is, learning curve on the web has not changed much from the early days. It takes time to understand and learn the past in order to see the future. THose that have been around a while will understand what i'm saying.

man I need moe "NUT"

but soon soon

ahh, good call...you may have some good possibility on wagering that way...

hell, look at what Ron did, he used his powers of foresight and innovation and, uhm, well you know what else...and pulled that 'hit it and quit it' thing...



no problem with that, but I'm guessing if you're willing to stick around through the upcoming processing issues that aren't over with, and upcoming obscenity issues, then he might just ride it out and reap some more graavy after those 'sets of doubles' come crashing through....

say yeeeah for white trash pigs in a blanket :)

yeah thats what keeps me up nights otherwise I would do this forever

very true...

one of the main differences with the others and Lars is that Lars covers his ass way better than anyone else i know. He's usually 3 steps ahead of anyone else in this industry with his business plans.

I like what this old crusty military boss told me in a previous life....keep doing it until it's not fun anymore...


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ROFL !!
I LUV YA MAN !! (not in a gay manboobs-rubbing way of course!) :eek7

You are one person I can slam on for a lark, and you don't threaten to sue my ass, take my house, or financially ruin me ... you can see the humor in it and play along (too bad more of these digital gangstaz could not follow your lead). :(

Sleazy you are a real class act Bro:thumbsup and one day everybody else will realize that too !

thats what my wife said

haveta be when your legendary in your own mind and ya have a small penis...

That's "gary"

I would be happy as hell with 100 $5 a month sites that all upsold to the per min cam shit.

Its just how avs upsells used to be so good. Its traffic of valid CC holders who you know buy porn.

you dont know how true that is "alaska gary" KC

lol :)

your's let you off easy...mine told me to keep doing it even if it wasn't...but she's a bit on the dom side...




:Graucho

I do not think the business model of subscription based sites will fade, I believe that honest business will be forced to grow holding there own merchant accounts.

A fast paced industry like ours lookin to turn a profit on 1 buck aint gonna be a Primary focus for returns based on the 1 buck being processed. 1 dollar or 5 dollar sites is perhaps more of a facilitative use really. The facilitative use is of course is creating a positive environment for upsells.

Whether 1 or 5 makes no difference in my opinion. You can sock the subscriber today or later and I think some businessmen these days are trying harder to sock a card holder first instead gain the subscribers trust in an upsell environment later.

However......
If I may go on. Take note that alot of sites that are openning these days holding smaller amounts of content that is exclusive. They ask for a small amount 20-25 or so in the amateur markets particularly with emphasise on exclusive niche content.

One thing that is very important to realise is that to construct a warehouse of it "all" will not do. There is always going to be a niche out there holding content that is exclusive to that site.
Everyting is a click away and the more ya put it all in one nest the more likely it will be under marketed.

Sigh ya guys asleep yet?
I think ya smart guys know where I am going with this...
Gnight.

if the customer is truely satisfied with the $25 for the niche content then so be it but the volume is not there with the niche stuff. I agree there will always be room for lots of small independent niche stuff, but I am talking about making more than 2-5 mil a month in sales. there are not a lot of companies doing that now. adn I am saying those that do that will have to go to this new model or get eaten alive by teh big brand names

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What next:1orglaugh

hmm sleep is sounding sooo good now