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jhauser · 01-21-2004, 11:40 AM

More song swappers sued

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The nation's record companies Wednesday sued another 532 people for illegally distributing copyrighted music over the Internet, stepping up their attack against online music piracy.

The move is part of an ongoing effort by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) to protect the rights of record companies and songwriters, and to bolster the legal distribution of music online.

The U.S. recording industry filed 261 lawsuits last September against people it claimed have illegally downloaded and distributed copyrighted music.

"The message to illegal file sharers should be as clear as ever ? we can and will continue to bring lawsuits on a regular basis against those who illegally distribute copyrighted music," RIAA president Cary Sherman said in a statement.
The RIAA said that once again it would be targeting people it deemed to be "major offenders".

But a big difference between the lawsuits filed Wednesday and those in September is the group is now using what is known as the "John Doe" process to sue defendants whose names aren't known.

The lawsuits identify the defendants by their numerical computer address, or Internet Protocol address, and once the suits have been filed, record labels will be able to subpoena the information necessary to identify the defendant by name.

The music industry has been suffering from declining sales of album and singles, according to figures from research firm Nielsen SoundScan, and the RIAA says a big reason for the decline is the proliferation of free and illegal music downloads on the Web through sites such as Kazaa, Grokster, and Gnutella.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/21/tech...uits/index.htm

nap · 01-21-2004, 12:07 PM

its funny watching the commercials with entertainers talking about how downloading music hurts their sales then those same entertainers are on mtv cribs showing off thier multimillion dollar homes and cars.

Scott McD · 01-21-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by nap
its funny watching the commercials with entertainers talking about how downloading music hurts their sales then those same entertainers are on mtv cribs showing off thier multimillion dollar homes and cars.

Yeah, nothing pisses me off more than watching that programme with some bitch i haven't even heard of showing off her mansion.

For all they do i think they should consider themselves well off, rather than bitch about music downloads...

foolio · 01-21-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Scott McD

Yeah, nothing pisses me off more than watching that programme with some bitch i haven't even heard of showing off her mansion.

For all they do i think they should consider themselves well off, rather than bitch about music downloads...

All you have to do is ask yourself "will they be in that same house in 5 years?"

I think the only person I wold say "yes" to that question is Redman, lol - you see his place? pure ghettoness

JMM · 01-21-2004, 01:25 PM

Foolio, Scott, nap, please post links to all of your designs, content, etc.

I have personally decided that you have made enough money using those designs/content and therefore I am going to use it all myself free of charge.

Don't bother suing me, I have printed out your posts as evidence of your implied consent.

foolio · 01-21-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by JMM
Foolio, Scott, nap, please post links to all of your designs, content, etc.

I have personally decided that you have made enough money using those designs/content and therefore I am going to use it all myself free of charge.

Don't bother suing me, I have printed out your posts as evidence of your implied consent.

You know file shares are much more likley to go out and buy the CD right?

Do you just go out and buy a car? Or do you take it for a test drive first?

I never buy a CD (unless its somebody I KNOW I like) untill I check out a few non-single songs from the CD.

I have no use for one-hit wonders in my playlist.

gornyhuy · 01-21-2004, 01:28 PM

here's the plan:
1)steal wireless access from your neighbor using airsnort
2)go multi proxy crazy
3)bit torrent till your eyes bug out on your neighbors bandwidth
3a) (optional) spoof the mac address of your machine
4) enjoy!

JMM · 01-21-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by foolio

You know file shares are much more likley to go out and buy the CD right?

Do you just go out and buy a car? Or do you take it for a test drive first?

I never buy a CD (unless its somebody I KNOW I like) untill I check out a few non-single songs from the CD.

I have no use for one-hit wonders in my playlist.

Your point is COMPLETELY irrelevant.

The owner of the property gets to decide how, when, where, and why the content is distributed, not you. They don't want it distributed on p2p networks and the people distributing it know they are breaking the law.

They deserve to be sued and they deserve to pay.

And, IF what you claim is true, than record sales would not be down so dramatically, they would be up.

Hollywood Horwitz · 01-21-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

Your point is COMPLETELY irrelevant.

The owner of the property gets to decide how, when, where, and why the content is distributed, not you. They don't want it distributed on p2p networks and the people distributing it know they are breaking the law.

They deserve to be sued and they deserve to pay.

And, IF what you claim is true, than record sales would not be down so dramatically, they would be up.

ive been the music industry for over 10 years and i can say that sales are NOT down cuz of music swapping,they are down cuz of the evil corporate assholes that run the labels.I love having people download my music and deciede if its good or not.if they like,they WILL buy and not just be happy with the download. Also, i blame clear channel for making it hard for radio stations not to suck.

Eric · 01-21-2004, 06:17 PM

I think this is funny. These execs have been putting out shitty records with one or two good songs on them for years and now they are pissed off that we are fighting back. FUCK EM!

Doctor Dre · 01-21-2004, 06:20 PM

Thats so small compared to the whole scene. They will cry the day this will be impossible for everybody to download something . The whole music scene has been booming in the past 5 years because of napster/kazaa and more and more artists popped out . The artists maybe make less sales from their music, but they do WAY more from live performing and advertising . Look at Jay-Z, he<s buying the knicks, he got a huge record label and he owns the BIGGEST clothing line in America . This would have never been possible without the exposure of the internet .

Eric · 01-21-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Thats so small compared to the whole scene. They will cry the day this will be impossible for everybody to download something . The whole music scene has been booming in the past 5 years because of napster/kazaa and more and more artists popped out . The artists maybe make less sales from their music, but they do WAY more from live performing and advertising . Look at Jay-Z, he<s buying the knicks, he got a huge record label and he owns the BIGGEST clothing line in America . This would have never been possible without the exposure of the internet .

Right but there is only one problem with that... The recording companies make a small percentage of the performers live performances. Where as they make the majority of their cash from the CD sales. So that is why the execs are more pissed than the actual musicians.

Doctor Dre · 01-21-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by JMM
Foolio, Scott, nap, please post links to all of your designs, content, etc.

I have personally decided that you have made enough money using those designs/content and therefore I am going to use it all myself free of charge.

Don't bother suing me, I have printed out your posts as evidence of your implied consent.

BUT you get MASS advertising all over the net . 10 times more than if you'd only be selling CDS . There are more artists than EVER right now on the scene . The record labels are the one loosing $ . Artists like Eminem and 50 cent use the system to get known .

Doctor Dre · 01-21-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes

Right but there is only one problem with that... The recording companies make a small percentage of the performers live performances. Where as they make the majority of their cash from the CD sales. So that is why the execs are more pissed than the actual musicians.

What I said in the next post . I've been in toutch with a lot of big artists (tour support for all the after hours of snoop, obie trice, joe budden, kardinal, choclair and other french artists like sans pression) and what I got from the big picture is that the money is the same but the exposure exploded .

nap · 01-22-2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by JMM
Foolio, Scott, nap, please post links to all of your designs, content, etc.

I have personally decided that you have made enough money using those designs/content and therefore I am going to use it all myself free of charge.

Don't bother suing me, I have printed out your posts as evidence of your implied consent.

When i'm on mtv cribs pulling in a few million per year for putting out a 15-20 track cd with 3 skits and an intro and outro then you are more than welcome do whatever you want with my product.

01-22-2004, 12:47 AM

Does anybody have the list of those named in the suits (or IP addresses)?

Shoehorn! · 01-22-2004, 02:28 AM

Music sales are down because todays music FUCKING SUCKS. It's not even real instruments, it's computer generated bullshit with lyrics written by people other than the ones "performing" the songs. Music today sucks. MTV sucks. Pizza is awesome.

Snowman · 01-22-2004, 02:30 AM

The day a cop comes to my door babbeling about me downloading MP3's I'll most likely be getting arrested for assulting an officer, That's the gayest shit I've ever heard

Scott McD · 01-22-2004, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Music sales are down because todays music FUCKING SUCKS. It's not even real instruments, it's computer generated bullshit with lyrics written by people other than the ones "performing" the songs. Music today sucks. MTV sucks. Pizza is awesome.

That's the truth right there.

I'm not a big fan of pizza mind you...

flashfire · 01-22-2004, 02:35 AM

I dont know who they are but I can assure you they are all americans...

goBigtime · 01-22-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by GigaRoss

....they are down cuz of the evil corporate assholes that run the labels.

....are they evil corporate assholes because you feel they overcharge for the product and don't pay the talent that 'created' it enough?

GigaRoss... why aren't your sites $4.99/month?

Do you split your profits with your content producers and web designers?

This is a captilist nation - it's just business.

goBigtime · 01-22-2004, 02:44 AM

THe bottom line is CD sales are down because new technology allows people to easily get the same music for free, without leaving the comfort of their home - and until recently, without legal reprecussions.

Now that the RIAA is taking an active stance and throwing out big question marks as to who is on their IP-subpenoa hit list, I bet you see a lot less people sharing their music.

I think people like sampling music and having instant access to large collections of music more than they like breaking the law....

Apples music store is a good example that people are still very willing to pay for music, they just want to have a good selection and be able to get it on-demand & without having to by a $18 CD that is 90% crap.

In fact I think Walmart and a bunch of other major corporations are getting into the online music business as well.

flashfire · 01-22-2004, 02:45 AM

Downloading music is legal in Canada so canadians dont have to worry

01-21-2004, 11:40 AM	#1
jhauser Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,924	Music swappers sued again are you on the list? More song swappers sued NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The nation's record companies Wednesday sued another 532 people for illegally distributing copyrighted music over the Internet, stepping up their attack against online music piracy. The move is part of an ongoing effort by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) to protect the rights of record companies and songwriters, and to bolster the legal distribution of music online. The U.S. recording industry filed 261 lawsuits last September against people it claimed have illegally downloaded and distributed copyrighted music. "The message to illegal file sharers should be as clear as ever ? we can and will continue to bring lawsuits on a regular basis against those who illegally distribute copyrighted music," RIAA president Cary Sherman said in a statement. The RIAA said that once again it would be targeting people it deemed to be "major offenders". But a big difference between the lawsuits filed Wednesday and those in September is the group is now using what is known as the "John Doe" process to sue defendants whose names aren't known. The lawsuits identify the defendants by their numerical computer address, or Internet Protocol address, and once the suits have been filed, record labels will be able to subpoena the information necessary to identify the defendant by name. The music industry has been suffering from declining sales of album and singles, according to figures from research firm Nielsen SoundScan, and the RIAA says a big reason for the decline is the proliferation of free and illegal music downloads on the Web through sites such as Kazaa, Grokster, and Gnutella. http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/21/tech...uits/index.htm __________________ TopBucks.com\| PlugInFeeds.com\| PinkVisual.com I am not one of those girls that go Mobi ing around my mobile solution is for you and you only. icq 175789972

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Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	I think this is funny. These execs have been putting out shitty records with one or two good songs on them for years and now they are pissed off that we are fighting back. FUCK EM! __________________ No One

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goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	THe bottom line is CD sales are down because new technology allows people to easily get the same music for free, without leaving the comfort of their home - and until recently, without legal reprecussions. Now that the RIAA is taking an active stance and throwing out big question marks as to who is on their IP-subpenoa hit list, I bet you see a lot less people sharing their music. I think people like sampling music and having instant access to large collections of music more than they like breaking the law.... Apples music store is a good example that people are still very willing to pay for music, they just want to have a good selection and be able to get it on-demand & without having to by a $18 CD that is 90% crap. In fact I think Walmart and a bunch of other major corporations are getting into the online music business as well. Last edited by goBigtime; 01-22-2004 at 02:57 AM..

01-21-2004, 12:07 PM	#2
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	its funny watching the commercials with entertainers talking about how downloading music hurts their sales then those same entertainers are on mtv cribs showing off thier multimillion dollar homes and cars.

01-21-2004, 01:25 PM	#5
JMM Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,755	Foolio, Scott, nap, please post links to all of your designs, content, etc. I have personally decided that you have made enough money using those designs/content and therefore I am going to use it all myself free of charge. Don't bother suing me, I have printed out your posts as evidence of your implied consent.

01-22-2004, 12:47 AM	#16
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Does anybody have the list of those named in the suits (or IP addresses)?

01-22-2004, 02:28 AM	#17
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	Music sales are down because todays music FUCKING SUCKS. It's not even real instruments, it's computer generated bullshit with lyrics written by people other than the ones "performing" the songs. Music today sucks. MTV sucks. Pizza is awesome.

01-22-2004, 02:30 AM	#18
Snowman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 235	The day a cop comes to my door babbeling about me downloading MP3's I'll most likely be getting arrested for assulting an officer, That's the gayest shit I've ever heard

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flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	I dont know who they are but I can assure you they are all americans...

01-22-2004, 02:45 AM	#23
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	Downloading music is legal in Canada so canadians dont have to worry