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				Northwest Airlines Gave Up All Their Passenger Data To The Govt.
			 
			Northwest secretly turned over complete passenger info, credit card numbers, addresses, phone numbers, etc. to the Feds and are just now admitting it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Also, starting soon you have to give up your date of birth when buying airline tickets. Wonder where that info is going. 
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		 name + birthdate = 100% Identification.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Instead of asking for all that other info they can ask the seemingly innocent info for the same result. It would take nothig for a computer to run a real time passenger match when the birthday and name is entered. ![]() 
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		 I read that today.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 The US Government is using those credit card details to sign up for pay sites through their own links. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 let me guess - on international flights only   lol 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			the US is famous for STILL not worrying about domestic flights 
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		 We have to use our brains and stop giving a fuck about race this and that when it comes to stopping another 9/11 attack. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			If there is another attack it will be an arab so fuck it if you are an arab / muslim or whatever and you want to board a flight check them. Joe Smith aint doing shit leave him the fuck alone. 
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		 Ok, don't worry about it.  When I hear the argument, "The only people that have to worry when the gov tracks them are criminals and lowlifes" I just laugh. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			All it would take is the updated COPA ruling to be put in effect later this year for most of us to be considered potential criminals. Mistakenly slip up on your taxes= potential crimanal. Got any parking tickets? Ever let your license expire? There are hundreds of other ways for any of us to fall out of favor with current laws unknowingly. Each one at least carries a fine. With the US government in such a money crunch all it would take is for them to be able to track you so they can collect at the worst time. Let's say you are going on your honeymoon. You are getting ready to hop on the plane with your honey to enjoy 7 days in Cozumel. Next thing you know you hear, "Mr. Sosa, please step over here with us. Did you know you had 2 unpaid parking tickets from your last trip to Orlando? You cannot leave the country until they are paid. With intrest and late fees the amount is now $4,000. If you cannot pay now we will have to detain you at the station." That's only a minor infraction but that's still a major inconvenience. Things like this will happen at the airport. Actually something like that already happened to me so this is why I know it's is where the US is going. 
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		 Northworst is bloody awful airline anyway..not like QANTAS or even American. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Jet Blue also gave them all this same info a while back.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Wow, I just got off a Northwest flight about 2 hours ago.  No wonder they knew my favorite drink and that I wanted the chicken instead of the fish.  Interesting. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 No, they knew because poor people like Milwaulkee's Best and eat chicken. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 What about when your info accidently get mismatched or the data corrupted someway and you get flagged innocently. The more info piling up the greater the likelihood of fuckups. Plus if Northwest gives up data, you have to ask yourself why weren't the passengers told. What's the big secret? They also violated their privacy policy and will now be subject to civil law suits. 
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 we should never forget that a CIA agent of 15 years sold secrects to russia for 100K 
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		 I'm a world perks membersince 01' baby.....  shit load of miles... I board first I get off first.... they can look into me as much as they want..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 here are the 2 options, either simply scan and spread arabs on different flights etc. or put real security on each flight. remember a us terror guy will be hard to detect by simply running his name, you will need real humans on planes to stop these fucks. 
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 they have taken people to court for stuff.. and lost... the ones they win are CP cases which I think those pervs shold be hung by there balls... but the bottom line is they will not go into a court room and loose... not the gov;s style... I never feel safe... I am like boiler room I got places elswhere when it gets hot.... and your welcome to join me there if you get to hot as well 
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		 in fact anyone who feels threatnd by the heat hit me up I got guys that handel stuff like that...  I love everyone on the board and don't get offended easy... we all need to work together....  but as far as NWA giving out shit....  I hope we don't get fucking spam snail mail now..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Thanks.  I'm not too worried.  We have a community called Dyker Heights in Brooklyn where a lot of NY guys with bigtime money live free from persecution... or so I've heard.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 anyone who thinks that airline terrorism is limited only to arabs is an idiot. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 you well know that if somethin happens again 99.9% it will be arabs 
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		 There's no chance anything is going to happen on a plane again.  Think about it... if anyone tried something on a plane now most American men will fight hard to stop them.  Everyone knows this.  Terrorists are 99% more likely to drive another bomb filled u-haul into a big building than try omething on a commercial airliner.  If they really wanted to do something like that they would probably use a corporate jumbo jet anyways.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 i dont' use terrorism for a reason to take the rights of people who have done nothing wrong. i really don't even want to imagine what arabs in this country are going through, especially in places where i'm currently located with redneck's who think their being patrotic by fucking with someone they have a hunch is a terrorist. what is it like not to be a minority?  | 
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 We dont know what they will do and how, who thought they would take planes and crash them in buildings. And who says they cant payoff some 8 dollar an hour worker at the airport and get access to different things. Onboard security is key 
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 Check the people who are more likly to be part of a crime Check everyone Dont check anyone Everyone has their own view on whats best 
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 What I had compared to what the visuals are today, makes my stuff they came after look like a Disney movie. 
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		 People forget there are about 4 Million Arabs in the US.  That's one out of every 75 people living here. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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