Paris site... Is it a scam? - GoFuckYourself.com

Alky · 01-03-2004, 07:37 PM

Or are consumers scamming themselves? If they took the time to read the terms and conditions of the purchase, they would see exactly what they were being billed for.

Granted it might not be the best business practice in the world, but whos to say!

MegaPussy · 01-03-2004, 07:40 PM

No, the terms don't state the charges, and they bill you for un-disclosed things. I cancelled within the 30 minute 'free trial' as disclosed and was still billed. Not to mention their site has all sorts of other illegal (against VISA/MC regs) statements and practices.

It is fraud, plain and simple. I walked through the entire process just to verify for myself.

- Titus

pamphage · 01-03-2004, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by MegaPussy
No, the terms don't state the charges, and they bill you for un-disclosed things. I cancelled within the 30 minute 'free trial' as disclosed and was still billed. Not to mention their site has all sorts of other illegal (against VISA/MC regs) statements and practices.

It is fraud, plain and simple. I walked through the entire process just to verify for myself.

- Titus

the only thing i don't understand is how the credit card companies let it go on for so long...they must know about it?

BV · 01-03-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage

the only thing i don't understand is how the credit card companies let it go on for so long...they must know about it?

They know about it, they make money on chargebacks.

MegaPussy · 01-03-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage

the only thing i don't understand is how the credit card companies let it go on for so long...they must know about it?

When you have as much money as the person(s) in question you can, for awhile at least, buy yourself credit card processing using smoke and mirrors. But you're right, it will eventually come home to roost. But by then they will have defrauded consumers out of millions (more than they have already.)

It sucks, and it ruins the business for everyone, adult and non. But then again companies like Enzyte and Girls Gone Wild defraud people using telephone orders as well, so it's not purely porn sites doing it. Penis pills are also a culprit. ;)

- Titus

Alky · 01-03-2004, 07:44 PM

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SUBSCRIPTION FEES

The subscriber is responsible for paying periodic subscription fees according to the then-current billing terms. Subscription fees are non-refundable. All charges are in USD. The description on your credit card statement will be www.pzest.com or its current authorised billing description. The fees payable are as follows:

Silver membership : once only payment (non-recurring) of $39.99.
Gold membership : once only payment (non-recurring) of $99.99.
Platinum membership : once only payment (non-recurring) of $199.99.

30 min Quick Peek Pass :

The fee structure will average $20.36 per month - almost 1/2 what other mega sites charge!

1. A FREE Trial of 30 mins which can be cancelled at any time during the trial period.
2. A $49.99 fee per 31 days for the following 62 days
3. A recurring fee of $39.99 per 31 days for the following 62 days.
4. A recurring fee of $19.99 per 31 days for the following 31 days.
4. A recurring fee of $9.99 per 31 days thereafter.

In Addition:
ADDITONAL PREMIUM SERVICE MAY BE BILLED - these are available free to 30 Minute Free Trial members and during the Silver membership for an additional monthly recurring fee of $9.95 - charges apply immediately if you elect to purchase these services. The FREE DVD offer is available for redemption to 30 Min Free Trial members immediately. A further 12 Free DVD's area valiable after 5 days. These Adult oriented DVD's are available FREE to qualifying members, postage fees may apply.

pretty black and white to me

sacX · 01-03-2004, 07:46 PM

so where is the 42 minute video?

MegaPussy · 01-03-2004, 07:47 PM

If you don't see $1.95 anywhere on that list, you'd agree with me that they billed my card illegally. ;)

- Titus

Alky · 01-03-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by sacX
so where is the 42 minute video?

is that the only adult site on the internet that is currently promoted heavily that lies about the content they have?

sacX · 01-03-2004, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by Alky
is that the only adult site on the internet that is currently promoted heavily that lies about the content they have?

what's your point? it doesn't make it any less a scam.

SoundMan · 01-03-2004, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Alky
Or are consumers scamming themselves? If they took the time to read the terms and conditions of the purchase, they would see exactly what they were being billed for.

Granted it might not be the best business practice in the world, but whos to say!

no paris has her own site, it is a secret anal place.

Matt 26z · 01-03-2004, 08:03 PM

The terms of the site would be hard for even an adult webmaster to understand. They are very confusing.

Surfers can't be expected to read terms anyway, and purposely hiding charges in there is low.

Mutt · 01-03-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Alky
is that the only adult site on the internet that is currently promoted heavily that lies about the content they have?

u sound like somebody trying awfully fucking hard to justify something that is 100% criminal. wonder why?

conscience bothering you a little there huh?

Alky · 01-03-2004, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt

u sound like somebody trying awfully fucking hard to justify something that is 100% criminal. wonder why?

conscience bothering you a little there huh?

im just stirring up some shit thats all.

i havent made any money off of paris to this day.

01-03-2004, 07:37 PM	#1
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	Paris site... Is it a scam? Or are consumers scamming themselves? If they took the time to read the terms and conditions of the purchase, they would see exactly what they were being billed for. Granted it might not be the best business practice in the world, but whos to say!

01-03-2004, 07:40 PM	#2
MegaPussy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 243	No, the terms don't state the charges, and they bill you for un-disclosed things. I cancelled within the 30 minute 'free trial' as disclosed and was still billed. Not to mention their site has all sorts of other illegal (against VISA/MC regs) statements and practices. It is fraud, plain and simple. I walked through the entire process just to verify for myself. - Titus __________________ Tabloid Cash - Fresh New Concept! www.tabloidcash.com [email protected]

01-03-2004, 07:46 PM	#7
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	so where is the 42 minute video? __________________ Have Asian Language Traffic?

01-03-2004, 07:47 PM	#8
MegaPussy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 243	If you don't see $1.95 anywhere on that list, you'd agree with me that they billed my card illegally. ;) - Titus __________________ Tabloid Cash - Fresh New Concept! www.tabloidcash.com [email protected]

01-03-2004, 08:03 PM	#12
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	The terms of the site would be hard for even an adult webmaster to understand. They are very confusing. Surfers can't be expected to read terms anyway, and purposely hiding charges in there is low.