What's the most STUPID rule a sponsors have? - GoFuckYourself.com

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 09:53 AM

I just signed up to some sponsor and I can't promote it because you are not allowed to RENAME the fucking pics....
WTF is this stupid ass rule fuck that!

Any more stupid rules sponsors have?

{fusion} · 12-31-2003, 09:54 AM

thats pretty dumb, as pic renaming is good for SEO in some cases

JFPdude · 12-31-2003, 09:55 AM

It's not really a stupid rule ... it's due to thier licensing ..

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by JFPdude
It's not really a stupid rule ... it's due to thier licensing ..

no...its THEIR rule... they can change it.

EZRhino · 12-31-2003, 09:56 AM

Sounds dumb to me

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
thats pretty dumb, as pic renaming is good for SEO in some cases

actually I rename it to 01.jpg - 16.jpg
just because it's more orgnized and more comfortable.

Theo · 12-31-2003, 09:56 AM

this one i found in a mortgage program

Please take note of our Pay-Per-Click Affiliate Policy (#18 in agreement):

*Affiliates may not bid on 4LowRates.com Trademarked name ever.
*Affiliates may not out-bid or overbid 4LowRates.com on ANY of our keywords found in Overture, FindWhat or Search123.
*Affiliate may bid UP to our position on ANY keywords.
*Affiliates may bid on ANY keywords in Google AdWords.
*Affiliates may bid on ANY keywords in any other PayPerClick search engines EXCLUDING Overture, FindWhat and Search123.

Violations of these policies are grounds for dismissal. We will audit regularly and we do have software that identifies exactly where all our leads originate from. So we will know and act accordingly.

chowda · 12-31-2003, 10:05 AM

never to talk about their program on any forum other than their own.

ZoiNk · 12-31-2003, 10:07 AM

One amusing one I was hit with.
-25%(or similar # below 50%) of your trials must convert for you to be paid $40 per signup. (But the only way to tell they weren't converting is if you didn't recieve a check, and that was also stated in their terms as the way to find out)

ZoiNk

SoundMan · 12-31-2003, 10:09 AM

if you promote anyone else you wont get paid!

The above is not for free content use btw..

seen it way back sopmplace.

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda
never to talk about their program on any forum other than their own.

What program is that?

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk
One amusing one I was hit with.
-25%(or similar # below 50%) of your trials must convert for you to be paid $40 per signup. (But the only way to tell they weren't converting is if you didn't recieve a check, and that was also stated in their terms as the way to find out)

ZoiNk

emmanuelle · 12-31-2003, 10:32 AM

The Suze program drives me nuts. I understand that the renaming issue is to protect their content; but I cannot use her file names with my scripts.

Nbritte · 12-31-2003, 10:36 AM

From a dating site

Because of security issues you can not view you stats online but we will send you your stats at the end of each month if you request them

Dont ask which one because I dont remember read that and just closed the window and went on

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nbritte
From a dating site

Because of security issues you can not view you stats online but we will send you your stats at the end of each month if you request them

Dont ask which one because I dont remember read that and just closed the window and went on

damnnn

Vitasoy · 12-31-2003, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
I just signed up to some sponsor and I can't promote it because you are not allowed to RENAME the fucking pics....
WTF is this stupid ass rule fuck that!

Any more stupid rules sponsors have?

that is pretty lame

{fusion} · 12-31-2003, 10:48 AM

affiliates that signup and send traffic will be banned without any questions

chowda · 12-31-2003, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

What program is that?

they canned me anyways, but its a ppc traffic buying sponsor..

heres a hint

12......

ldinternet · 12-31-2003, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda
never to talk about their program on any forum other than their own.

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
What program is that?

Oracle Porn · 12-31-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda

they canned me anyways, but its a ppc traffic buying sponsor..

heres a hint

12......

12clicks?

{fusion} · 12-31-2003, 10:57 AM

12 monkeys bruce willis

12clicks · 12-31-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda

they canned me anyways, but its a ppc traffic buying sponsor..

heres a hint

12......

No, you're confused. I canned you for lying about our program. I paid you in full and told you to take your 50 cents worth of traffic down the road.

shortly thereafter you changed your board name to "chowda" in a feeble attempt to regain a shread of respect.

12clicks · 12-31-2003, 08:43 PM

board whores with 50 cents worth of traffic fucking crack me up when they throw their weight around.

teenjump · 12-31-2003, 08:46 PM

Epic Cash sucks.

p1mpdogg · 12-31-2003, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teenjump
Epic Cash sucks.

ouch

Techie Media · 12-31-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

No, you're confused. I canned you for lying about our program. I paid you in full and told you to take your 50 cents worth of traffic down the road.

shortly thereafter you changed your board name to "chowda" in a feeble attempt to regain a shread of respect.

Hey Ron, I just stopped in to see what's up on new Years eve, and I see you here OWNING some kid...LOL, that's the Ron I love.

Hey you gonna be in Vegas?? we need to hit that same old handycap BJ table again

Hit me on ICQ we can make a plan

teenjump · 12-31-2003, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
ouch

lol.

12clicks · 12-31-2003, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightning

Hey Ron, I just stopped in to see what's up on new Years eve, and I see you here OWNING some kid...LOL, that's the Ron I love. Hey you gonna be in Vegas?? we need to hit that same old handycap BJ table again Hit me on ICQ we can make a plan

hahaha, you got a date! that is a lucky table.
Find me, we'll play.

Oracle Porn · 01-01-2004, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

No, you're confused. I canned you for lying about our program. I paid you in full and told you to take your 50 cents worth of traffic down the road.

shortly thereafter you changed your board name to "chowda" in a feeble attempt to regain a shread of respect.

That doesn't seem like a good way to treat affiliates....
25 cents or 50 cents or 4 dollars it doesn't matter.

smproduction · 01-01-2004, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
affiliates that signup and send traffic will be banned without any questions

Incredible

p1mpdogg · 01-01-2004, 04:25 AM

the no cheating rule sucks big time

advertiser · 01-01-2004, 04:29 AM

Epic Cash reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership

How fucking dumb are these people?
Sure I will send them 100 sign ups a week
This is as fucking dumb as a sponsor can ever be

SomeCreep · 01-01-2004, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by advertiser
Epic Cash reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership

I hate that type of fine print. The webmasters job is getting the surfer to signup. The website's job is to make them stay and rebill. I cant believe they have that rule.

And about that sponsor that doesnt let you rename files. Thats the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

struggle7 · 01-01-2004, 06:52 AM

Something to the effect of:

"You may not use a PO BOX as your address or you will not be paid"

Hmmm. Saw that and said "forget it".

Don't remember who, all I can say is check the terms. It's sad what some try to pull.

EPIC, do you guys provide a way for us to check the productivity of the trial conversions ?

Theo · 01-01-2004, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by struggle7
Something to the effect of:

"You may not use a PO BOX as your address or you will not be paid"

Why would a legit webmaster or company use a PO BOX instead his own address? PO BOXes are used by carders and various scammers. I would be careful as well on this.

eroswebmaster · 01-01-2004, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

Why would a legit webmaster or company use a PO BOX instead his own address? PO BOXes are used by carders and various scammers. I would be careful as well on this.

dude get a fucking clue.

struggle7 · 01-01-2004, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

Why would a legit webmaster or company use a PO BOX instead his own address? PO BOXes are used by carders and various scammers. I would be careful as well on this.

I am a bit shocked that someone agrees with the practice, but I guess I will explain:

Many individual webmasters do ot have a seperate office and that would mean that they would be forced to use their own home address. Considering the industry, spam and such, and that if they have kids, I could see where this could become problematic. More so if you hide the adult nature of your business (which many do) from others.

Besides, it is good to seperate business and personal mail entirely at the source. On the legitmacy of PO BOXes being used, I can say that many of my banks and credit card companies use them for contact and payment addresses.

Theo · 01-01-2004, 07:30 AM

struggle7, cheques coming from adult sponsors do not differ at all from any other cheque someone can receive. It's impossible to see if it's related with the adult industry. You just receive normal envelopes, nothing more and I don't see anyone that can have a problem about it. Kids,spam etc do not apply on this.

eroswebmaster · 01-01-2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
struggle7, cheques coming from adult sponsors do not differ at all from any other cheque someone can receive. It's impossible to see if it's related with the adult industry. You just receive normal envelopes, nothing more and I don't see anyone that can have a problem about it. Kids,spam etc do not apply on this.

There are many legal issues involved and honestly I think I'll heed a lawyers advice and not some guy on GFY...as I stated above get a clue.

Theo · 01-01-2004, 07:35 AM

from ARS TOS

"We reserve the right not to send commission checks to post office boxes. "

stocktrader23 · 01-01-2004, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
struggle7, cheques coming from adult sponsors do not differ at all from any other cheque someone can receive. It's impossible to see if it's related with the adult industry. You just receive normal envelopes, nothing more and I don't see anyone that can have a problem about it. Kids,spam etc do not apply on this.

Dude, damn near everyone I know has a PO box. Aside from that, some small towns don't even have delivery for regular mail, you HAVE to have a po box.

struggle7 · 01-01-2004, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
struggle7, cheques coming from adult sponsors do not differ at all from any other cheque someone can receive. It's impossible to see if it's related with the adult industry. You just receive normal envelopes, nothing more and I don't see anyone that can have a problem about it. Kids,spam etc do not apply on this.

Most sponsors are smart, yes, names that are not of the "Granny's Fist Fucking Bucks" sort. But some aren't so smart. Then there is the issue of who the address gets out to and what they will send to you. Even with the vaguest name it is fairly simple for anyone over twelve to type the company name appearing on the outside of the check in Google and see what appears. Then there is the accidental delivery to your neighbor problem. And the legal and tax issues pertaining to seperation of business and personal assets.

For me, I won't be using my home address for anything adult (or even business - I do mainstream too) related and if that means avoiding a sponsor, so be it. I find the rule to be stupid, of course others are free to disagree with me. No problem, you know? Have a happy new year.

Theo · 01-01-2004, 07:54 AM

from adultplatinum

Payments will be in the form of a check in US dollars payable to you, as identified in your application, and will be mailed to the street address indicated in your application (we will not mail to P.O. Boxes!!).

Many sponsors deny to send payments to PO Boxes. If you didn't know that then probably you never read TOS. It's not rare.

I don't say that there are no legit uses of them and that no legit webmasters can receive payments there, but lack of physical address is an alert sign for many sponsors due to past bad experiences.

Theo · 01-01-2004, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Dude, damn near everyone I know has a PO box. Aside from that, some small towns don't even have delivery for regular mail, you HAVE to have a po box.

ok i didnt know that, it doesnt happen where i live. All i'm saying is that it's not an extreme case. There's no affiliate program i have joined (out of thousands) that i havent read their TOS, that's why I know is common.

eroswebmaster · 01-01-2004, 08:18 AM

Also there are ways to get around the "po box" issue soul_rebel. There are plenty of services in the US that offer to accept mail and give you a "suite #."

But to just say that you can't see why a "legitimate" company or webmaster uses a p.o. box is to lump a lot of "legitimate" companies in with scammers.

There are so many legitimate concerns for not accepting business related mail at your house.

One that hasn't even been addressed here is zoning issues. In some places you are not supposed to run a business out of your house regardless of what type it is...and if you do there are so many license qualifications you have to meet.

Having a po box of mail pick up is also just another layer of protection in order to seperate personal property from business property when you don't have a seperate office.

Upon lawyers advice I was instructed to set up my business this way.

Mail in one section of town, my business license in a "license hang" in another part of town...basically the idea is to keep any law enforcement or government agents *city, county, federal* from entering my residence.

They have NO reason to visit me here..and if I produced content rent a small office just to maintain 2557 documents...just layers of protection from a variety of prying eyes.

Theo · 01-01-2004, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

But to just say that you can't see why a "legitimate" company or webmaster uses a p.o. box is to lump a lot of "legitimate" companies in with scammers.

ok that was a bit rushed, but was coming from what it happens in my country. PO BOXes belong to those that run get rich schemes, pyramids or scams. I didn't know they were common in other countries. There was no intention.

eroswebmaster · 01-01-2004, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

ok that was a bit rushed, but was coming from what it happens in my country. PO BOXes belong to those that run get rich schemes, pyramids or scams. I didn't know they were common in other countries. There was no intention.

np man...my comment above was a bit rushed to

Nbritte · 01-01-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

Why would a legit webmaster or company use a PO BOX instead his own address? PO BOXes are used by carders and various scammers. I would be careful as well on this.

I use one so that when the kids are out at night knocking down peoples mail boxes I dont have to worry about going out early to put it back up before the mail runs. So does this mean I am not a "legit webmaster"?

Nbritt

xxxoutsourcing · 01-01-2004, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
affiliates that signup and send traffic will be banned without any questions

12clicks · 01-02-2004, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

That doesn't seem like a good way to treat affiliates....
25 cents or 50 cents or 4 dollars it doesn't matter.

you're right, I cancel much larger accounts than that for lying about us publicly.
this is more of a make fun fun of his little traffic thing.

why don't you open a program and teach us all how to treat affiliates.

12-31-2003, 10:05 AM	#8
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12-31-2003, 10:07 AM	#9
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	One amusing one I was hit with. -25%(or similar # below 50%) of your trials must convert for you to be paid $40 per signup. (But the only way to tell they weren't converting is if you didn't recieve a check, and that was also stated in their terms as the way to find out) ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

12-31-2003, 10:36 AM	#14
Nbritte Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kentucky USA Posts: 689	From a dating site Because of security issues you can not view you stats online but we will send you your stats at the end of each month if you request them Dont ask which one because I dont remember read that and just closed the window and went on __________________ SexyCityCash gets in Bed with PornoDan

12-31-2003, 08:43 PM	#23
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	board whores with 50 cents worth of traffic fucking crack me up when they throw their weight around. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

01-01-2004, 04:25 AM	#31
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	the no cheating rule sucks big time __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

12-31-2003, 09:53 AM	#1
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	What's the most STUPID rule a sponsors have? I just signed up to some sponsor and I can't promote it because you are not allowed to RENAME the fucking pics.... WTF is this stupid ass rule fuck that! Any more stupid rules sponsors have? __________________

12-31-2003, 09:54 AM	#2
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	thats pretty dumb, as pic renaming is good for SEO in some cases

12-31-2003, 09:55 AM	#3
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	It's not really a stupid rule ... it's due to thier licensing ..

12-31-2003, 09:56 AM	#5
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	Sounds dumb to me

12-31-2003, 09:56 AM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	this one i found in a mortgage program Please take note of our Pay-Per-Click Affiliate Policy (#18 in agreement): Affiliates may not bid on 4LowRates.com Trademarked name ever. Affiliates may not out-bid or overbid 4LowRates.com on ANY of our keywords found in Overture, FindWhat or Search123. Affiliate may bid UP to our position on ANY keywords. Affiliates may bid on ANY keywords in Google AdWords. *Affiliates may bid on ANY keywords in any other PayPerClick search engines EXCLUDING Overture, FindWhat and Search123. Violations of these policies are grounds for dismissal. We will audit regularly and we do have software that identifies exactly where all our leads originate from. So we will know and act accordingly.

12-31-2003, 10:09 AM	#10
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	if you promote anyone else you wont get paid! The above is not for free content use btw.. seen it way back sopmplace.

12-31-2003, 10:32 AM	#13
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	The Suze program drives me nuts. I understand that the renaming issue is to protect their content; but I cannot use her file names with my scripts.

12-31-2003, 10:48 AM	#17
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	affiliates that signup and send traffic will be banned without any questions

12-31-2003, 10:57 AM	#21
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	12 monkeys bruce willis

12-31-2003, 08:46 PM	#24
teenjump So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,595	Epic Cash sucks.

01-01-2004, 04:29 AM	#32
advertiser Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mensa Posts: 457	Epic Cash reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership How fucking dumb are these people? Sure I will send them 100 sign ups a week This is as fucking dumb as a sponsor can ever be

01-01-2004, 06:52 AM	#34
struggle7 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 28	Something to the effect of: "You may not use a PO BOX as your address or you will not be paid" Hmmm. Saw that and said "forget it". Don't remember who, all I can say is check the terms. It's sad what some try to pull. EPIC, do you guys provide a way for us to check the productivity of the trial conversions ?

01-01-2004, 07:30 AM	#38
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	struggle7, cheques coming from adult sponsors do not differ at all from any other cheque someone can receive. It's impossible to see if it's related with the adult industry. You just receive normal envelopes, nothing more and I don't see anyone that can have a problem about it. Kids,spam etc do not apply on this.

01-01-2004, 07:35 AM	#40
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	from ARS TOS "We reserve the right not to send commission checks to post office boxes. "

01-01-2004, 07:54 AM	#43
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	from adultplatinum Payments will be in the form of a check in US dollars payable to you, as identified in your application, and will be mailed to the street address indicated in your application (we will not mail to P.O. Boxes!!). Many sponsors deny to send payments to PO Boxes. If you didn't know that then probably you never read TOS. It's not rare. I don't say that there are no legit uses of them and that no legit webmasters can receive payments there, but lack of physical address is an alert sign for many sponsors due to past bad experiences.

01-01-2004, 08:18 AM	#45
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Also there are ways to get around the "po box" issue soul_rebel. There are plenty of services in the US that offer to accept mail and give you a "suite #." But to just say that you can't see why a "legitimate" company or webmaster uses a p.o. box is to lump a lot of "legitimate" companies in with scammers. There are so many legitimate concerns for not accepting business related mail at your house. One that hasn't even been addressed here is zoning issues. In some places you are not supposed to run a business out of your house regardless of what type it is...and if you do there are so many license qualifications you have to meet. Having a po box of mail pick up is also just another layer of protection in order to seperate personal property from business property when you don't have a seperate office. Upon lawyers advice I was instructed to set up my business this way. Mail in one section of town, my business license in a "license hang" in another part of town...basically the idea is to keep any law enforcement or government agents city, county, federal from entering my residence. They have NO reason to visit me here..and if I produced content rent a small office just to maintain 2557 documents...just layers of protection from a variety of prying eyes. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details