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Antxx · 12-24-2003, 04:45 AM

Hi,

I found a dedicated server offer for 99$, no setup fees. But i never been on a dedicated server, i know nothing about this, and i mean zero, even Microsoft server system...So i would need some advice from enlighten webmasters.

This is the package offer:

Intel Celeron 1.8 GHz
(400 MHz FSB)
mme: 512 MB
hd: 60 GB
band: 500 GB
os: Windows Server 2003 Web Edition
network: Dual 100 Megabit

features:

Services
Remote Desktop (Terminal Services)
Hardware Monitoring/Alerting
FREE Unlimited Reboots
Microsoft Windows Update
Detailed Usage Reports
Account Management Interface
Technical E-mail Notifications
ActiveServe DNS Manager

Software:
Microsoft Internet Information Services 6.0
Windows Server 2003 Web Interface
Microsoft .NET Framework
Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
ASP.NET
Microsoft Component Services
Active Server Pages (Classic ASP)
ODBC Data Source Administrator
Microsoft DNS Services
Microsoft Management Console
Microsoft FTP Services
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions
Microsoft E-Mail Services
Microsoft Indexing Service
ASP.NET Web Matrix
Backup Utility for Windows
XML Web Services

Guarantees
24 Hour Hardware Replacement
99.9% Network Uptime Guarantee
Operating System Restore
No Contract, No Obligation!

They say they have no problem with adult webmaster. That sounds interesting for my gallery hosting. However they are a new Cie i think...I don't see any comments about that...They also have the same offer with a P4 1.8 at 109$. This looks ok to you ?

V_RocKs · 12-24-2003, 04:52 AM

I looks like a good deal, but if they are brand new, then you could get burned... I got burned twice on VERY cheap deals... I will NEVER do it again!

Pornwolf · 12-24-2003, 04:53 AM

Stick with a reputable company for a deal like that. If it's not servermatrix or Rackshack the control panel issues will probably kill you... not to mention the lack of security.

Antxx · 12-24-2003, 04:58 AM

That the thing that badder me. I am responsable for the security of the server. I mean i can put Kerio firewall and AVG antivirus, but when it comes to further server protections, there is much more to it...

com · 12-24-2003, 05:09 AM

dude... why would you even consider running windows? do you not care about data integrity?

Antxx · 12-24-2003, 05:13 AM

Yes, i do! A lot, i was a computer repairman before that job. I would prefer a redhat system. I have more doubts about the system then the actual hardware. Servermatrix looks more like it for me. It look nicer and do a bit more management then the others.

com · 12-24-2003, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Antxx
Yes, i do! A lot, i was a computer repairman before that job. I would prefer a redhat system. I have more doubts about the system then the actual hardware. Servermatrix looks more like it for me. It look nicer and do a bit more management then the others.

You're still gonna get owned up and (from personal experience) run into rediculous problems on redhat. If you're looking for a managed server hit us up at phatservers.net. FreeBSD is what you want to look for... and if you do wind up going with a company that doesn't do management, grab plesk (I **HATE** admin interfaces personaly)

Antxx · 12-24-2003, 05:30 AM

Sorry man, but your price doesn't meet my budget. I would go broke in a matter of months, and that wouldn't be wise. But thanks for the advices, i appreciate.

I think that getting burn is part of the process, but you don't want to get too much burn...that goes without saying.

chodadog · 12-24-2003, 06:09 AM

Your computer will be hosted on a desktop box and not a real server. Wouldn't be surprised if it was an overclocked celeron either. The bandwidth will be pure cogent.

Chances are, if you can't afford a dedicated server at a reputable hosting company (webair, oxeo, sinhost, etc), then you probably don't need one.

I don't think their dedicated prices will suit your budget, but see my sig to check out the virtual plans at webair. Happy customer here.

Antxx · 12-24-2003, 06:53 AM

I am already in a virtual plan (realitychecknetwork, they are pretty good with cobaltweb too), i was searching for a 400 to 500 gig of bandwith, to be able to afford thehun bandwith at a more suitable price.

the first one i was talking is :
http://www.activeserve.com/

Well i will check back later. I have a christmas food desert to prepare and go to bank make a deposit of 400$US

.

bigdaddy187 · 12-24-2003, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Antxx
Hi,

I found a dedicated server offer for 99$, no setup fees. But i never been on a dedicated server, i know nothing about this, and i mean zero, even Microsoft server system...So i would need some advice from enlighten webmasters.

This is the package offer:

Intel Celeron 1.8 GHz
(400 MHz FSB)
mme: 512 MB
hd: 60 GB
band: 500 GB
os: Windows Server 2003 Web Edition
network: Dual 100 Megabit

features:

Services
Remote Desktop (Terminal Services)
Hardware Monitoring/Alerting
FREE Unlimited Reboots
Microsoft Windows Update
Detailed Usage Reports
Account Management Interface
Technical E-mail Notifications
ActiveServe DNS Manager

Software:
Microsoft Internet Information Services 6.0
Windows Server 2003 Web Interface
Microsoft .NET Framework
Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
ASP.NET
Microsoft Component Services
Active Server Pages (Classic ASP)
ODBC Data Source Administrator
Microsoft DNS Services
Microsoft Management Console
Microsoft FTP Services
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions
Microsoft E-Mail Services
Microsoft Indexing Service
ASP.NET Web Matrix
Backup Utility for Windows
XML Web Services

Guarantees
24 Hour Hardware Replacement
99.9% Network Uptime Guarantee
Operating System Restore
No Contract, No Obligation!

They say they have no problem with adult webmaster. That sounds interesting for my gallery hosting. However they are a new Cie i think...I don't see any comments about that...They also have the same offer with a P4 1.8 at 109$. This looks ok to you ?

Sounds good but I have been with National-net and I love the service and support they provide.

AdultNex · 12-24-2003, 09:57 AM

ServerMatrix are very good people. Their prices are hard to beat in terms oftheir support and hardware. I've used them in the past, and only left for a cheaper solution with a partnership with someone.

The thing about the adult business is that many people haven't browsed through the entire hosting scope, and they're limited to hosts like CandidHosting, National-Net, etc. because those are the only hosts they've heard of.

There are many mainstream hosts that offer better hosting packages at very competitive prices and the same (if not better) support.

hanii · 12-24-2003, 10:29 AM

I have a server at ServerMatrix and they are kick ass!

JFPdude · 12-24-2003, 10:36 AM

ok first step.

Look at all that software. Look up the prices of each package. Divide that by the length of your contract.

Then figure out what the server is going to cost the company. Dive that by the length of your contract also.

second step.
If your figures come up less than what they are going to charge you then figure out how they are offering this GREAT deal without making a profit and putting themselves in the loss column.

Third Step.
If you care at all about your business protect it by contacting a reputable hosting company where the figures do add up.

reynold · 12-24-2003, 10:39 AM

servermatrix.com is cheap too

search www.webhostingtalk.com

liquidmoe · 12-24-2003, 10:44 AM

Definitely avoid windows, its horrible not only because of security issues but also performance. FreeBSD is definitely the way to go and like someone said before if you cant justify a decent price for a dedicated server then you definitely dont need one. If you are looking for about 500GB of bandwidth to burn hit me up on icq at 36837470 I can set you up on a semi-dedicated machine (a couple of users per machine) with pricing very near $99 over quality multihomed bandwidth like Level3, MFN Abovenet, NYIIX, and others.

Good luck.

Antxx · 12-24-2003, 11:27 AM

hey thanks for all the inputs. Will certainly helps me making a better judgement. I will try to read a bit more about it too...

As for a windows system, you don't have to convince me too much about it

. After all, i begun repairing computer with the crappy Win95 A. That leaves you with memorable and eternal moments about Microsoft...

PbG · 12-26-2003, 09:20 PM

If you need a fully managed box consider Uncensored-Hosting

TheSaint · 12-26-2003, 10:41 PM

Servermatrix and Rackshack are both great hosts, bandwidth as good and usally much better than so called "premium" hosts, no cogent at either one on the regular metered boxes.

However, if you are not extremely familar with managing a server, its a very, very bad idea. You might get lucky or you might get owned in 24 hours, all the draw of the cards.

12-24-2003, 04:45 AM	#1
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	need advice for dedicated server offer Hi, I found a dedicated server offer for 99$, no setup fees. But i never been on a dedicated server, i know nothing about this, and i mean zero, even Microsoft server system...So i would need some advice from enlighten webmasters. This is the package offer: Intel Celeron 1.8 GHz (400 MHz FSB) mme: 512 MB hd: 60 GB band: 500 GB os: Windows Server 2003 Web Edition network: Dual 100 Megabit features: Services Remote Desktop (Terminal Services) Hardware Monitoring/Alerting FREE Unlimited Reboots Microsoft Windows Update Detailed Usage Reports Account Management Interface Technical E-mail Notifications ActiveServe DNS Manager Software: Microsoft Internet Information Services 6.0 Windows Server 2003 Web Interface Microsoft .NET Framework Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer ASP.NET Microsoft Component Services Active Server Pages (Classic ASP) ODBC Data Source Administrator Microsoft DNS Services Microsoft Management Console Microsoft FTP Services FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Microsoft E-Mail Services Microsoft Indexing Service ASP.NET Web Matrix Backup Utility for Windows XML Web Services Guarantees 24 Hour Hardware Replacement 99.9% Network Uptime Guarantee Operating System Restore No Contract, No Obligation! They say they have no problem with adult webmaster. That sounds interesting for my gallery hosting. However they are a new Cie i think...I don't see any comments about that...They also have the same offer with a P4 1.8 at 109$. This looks ok to you ? __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-24-2003, 04:53 AM	#3
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Stick with a reputable company for a deal like that. If it's not servermatrix or Rackshack the control panel issues will probably kill you... not to mention the lack of security. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

12-24-2003, 04:58 AM	#4
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	That the thing that badder me. I am responsable for the security of the server. I mean i can put Kerio firewall and AVG antivirus, but when it comes to further server protections, there is much more to it... __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-24-2003, 05:09 AM	#5
com Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,541	dude... why would you even consider running windows? do you not care about data integrity? __________________ Real. Professional. Hosting. .:Expect Nothing Less:. 320-078-843 :: www.realprohosting.com :: [email protected]

12-24-2003, 05:13 AM	#6
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	Yes, i do! A lot, i was a computer repairman before that job. I would prefer a redhat system. I have more doubts about the system then the actual hardware. Servermatrix looks more like it for me. It look nicer and do a bit more management then the others. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-24-2003, 04:52 AM	#2
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,420	I looks like a good deal, but if they are brand new, then you could get burned... I got burned twice on VERY cheap deals... I will NEVER do it again!

12-24-2003, 05:30 AM	#8
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	Sorry man, but your price doesn't meet my budget. I would go broke in a matter of months, and that wouldn't be wise. But thanks for the advices, i appreciate. I think that getting burn is part of the process, but you don't want to get too much burn...that goes without saying. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-24-2003, 06:09 AM	#9
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Your computer will be hosted on a desktop box and not a real server. Wouldn't be surprised if it was an overclocked celeron either. The bandwidth will be pure cogent. Chances are, if you can't afford a dedicated server at a reputable hosting company (webair, oxeo, sinhost, etc), then you probably don't need one. I don't think their dedicated prices will suit your budget, but see my sig to check out the virtual plans at webair. Happy customer here. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

12-24-2003, 06:53 AM	#10
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	I am already in a virtual plan (realitychecknetwork, they are pretty good with cobaltweb too), i was searching for a 400 to 500 gig of bandwith, to be able to afford thehun bandwith at a more suitable price. the first one i was talking is : http://www.activeserve.com/ Well i will check back later. I have a christmas food desert to prepare and go to bank make a deposit of 400$US . __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-24-2003, 09:57 AM	#12
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	ServerMatrix are very good people. Their prices are hard to beat in terms oftheir support and hardware. I've used them in the past, and only left for a cheaper solution with a partnership with someone. The thing about the adult business is that many people haven't browsed through the entire hosting scope, and they're limited to hosts like CandidHosting, National-Net, etc. because those are the only hosts they've heard of. There are many mainstream hosts that offer better hosting packages at very competitive prices and the same (if not better) support.

12-24-2003, 10:29 AM	#13
hanii Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Moon Posts: 449	I have a server at ServerMatrix and they are kick ass!

12-24-2003, 10:36 AM	#14
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	ok first step. Look at all that software. Look up the prices of each package. Divide that by the length of your contract. Then figure out what the server is going to cost the company. Dive that by the length of your contract also. second step. If your figures come up less than what they are going to charge you then figure out how they are offering this GREAT deal without making a profit and putting themselves in the loss column. Third Step. If you care at all about your business protect it by contacting a reputable hosting company where the figures do add up.

12-24-2003, 10:39 AM	#15
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	servermatrix.com is cheap too search www.webhostingtalk.com

12-24-2003, 10:44 AM	#16
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Definitely avoid windows, its horrible not only because of security issues but also performance. FreeBSD is definitely the way to go and like someone said before if you cant justify a decent price for a dedicated server then you definitely dont need one. If you are looking for about 500GB of bandwidth to burn hit me up on icq at 36837470 I can set you up on a semi-dedicated machine (a couple of users per machine) with pricing very near $99 over quality multihomed bandwidth like Level3, MFN Abovenet, NYIIX, and others. Good luck. __________________ Take Luck!

12-24-2003, 11:27 AM	#17
Antxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Qubec, Canada Posts: 587	hey thanks for all the inputs. Will certainly helps me making a better judgement. I will try to read a bit more about it too... As for a windows system, you don't have to convince me too much about it . After all, i begun repairing computer with the crappy Win95 A. That leaves you with memorable and eternal moments about Microsoft... __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who only dream by night" -E A. Poe http://www.playhon.com http://www.living-glass.com

12-26-2003, 09:20 PM	#18
PbG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,025	If you need a fully managed box consider Uncensored-Hosting __________________ Uncensored-Hosting \| Photography by Gus

12-26-2003, 10:41 PM	#19
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Servermatrix and Rackshack are both great hosts, bandwidth as good and usally much better than so called "premium" hosts, no cogent at either one on the regular metered boxes. However, if you are not extremely familar with managing a server, its a very, very bad idea. You might get lucky or you might get owned in 24 hours, all the draw of the cards. __________________ I have no signature