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bena1975ca · 12-15-2003, 12:17 AM

I'd like it said for the record, that no matter who the U.S. post in power in Iraq, we'll be at war with them within 10-15 years. I see a pattern forming:

Cuba: Castro - didn't the U.S. decide they should kill him soon after they put him in power? (Before they decided that killing world leaders was bad)
Israel: Ayatollah Khomeni - again, I think the U.S. put this guy in power, shortly before they decided to have a war with him.
Al Quaida: Osama bin Laden - If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. funded Al Quaida in order to defeat the soviet occupation of Afghanistan.
Iraq: Saddam Hussein - Put in power when the U.S. overthrew the previous leader.

Anyone see any patterns forming? The U.S. put people in power of these countries, then these leaders get pissed off with the U.S. dictating their policies, and then the U.S. go to war with them.

Lane · 12-15-2003, 12:18 AM

war is profit
installed puppets do their job and let their countries get invaded.
Saddam did it twice

Ironhorse · 12-15-2003, 12:23 AM

US installed Castro? Ayatollah in Israel? Dude the only pattern here is the loop in your cabeza. Get informed before you make posts like this.

Edit: Although maybe the patterns you're talking about maybe real, your facts are WAY off man.

bena1975ca · 12-15-2003, 12:32 AM

It's late, bite me :P I was taking extracts of info from other sites...okay, I simplified, but the patterns are there

HeadPimp · 12-15-2003, 01:09 AM

Yeah, we have a bad habit of promoting the wrong people... Castro wasn't our bad though (at least I don't think so.)

Ironhorse · 12-15-2003, 01:55 AM

The only pattern in the example you listed is all those guys were fighting off foreign influence and gained power in the process of rebellions of perceived agressors, in most cases the US.

I am trying to stay patriotic here in light of everything, but I'm not letting you get away with this distortion of history. Here's what actually happened, in the correct countries even:

1. Fidel Castro in Cuba- armed coup (Cuban Revolution) against US supported dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista in 1959

2. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran - armed coup against US supported Muhammad Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1979

3. Osama and Al Queda in Afghanistan - armed resistance to a leftist coup and subsequent soviet invasion in 1978, Osama participated in guerilla war against the russians and although the rebels were supported by US, I doubt bin Laden ever thought as himself as 'working for the US'

4. Saddam Hussein in Iraq - a series of coups starting with coup against pro-western King Faisal II, left most power in Iraq in the hands of pro-stalinist regimes, ending with Saddam Hussein in 1979. Saddam had some CIA contact but clearly had his own agenda which was always alot less pro-western that the west liked it. He had close ties with communist Russia as well as Rumanian dicatator Nicolae Ceausescu

Really the only pattern here, is lots of shit happened in 1958 as well as 1979 a year before Regan would be elected and also same year George Bush sr. had biggest weight in the CIA which was operating heavily in all 4 areas noted above.

Maybe this is not the pattern you were looking for but it is what it is.

Man, if you're going to go to bat for your country, use some samples that don't actually work against it.

zzgundamnzz · 12-15-2003, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bena1975ca

Israel: Ayatollah Khomeni - again, I think the U.S. put this guy in power, shortly before they decided to have a war with him.

ROFL

I'll have whatever your smoking. Must be some good shit

Brad-Wishing · 12-15-2003, 02:37 AM

Just ignore him... he's British. ;)

12-15-2003, 12:17 AM	#1
bena1975ca Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 157	Patterns of War I'd like it said for the record, that no matter who the U.S. post in power in Iraq, we'll be at war with them within 10-15 years. I see a pattern forming: Cuba: Castro - didn't the U.S. decide they should kill him soon after they put him in power? (Before they decided that killing world leaders was bad) Israel: Ayatollah Khomeni - again, I think the U.S. put this guy in power, shortly before they decided to have a war with him. Al Quaida: Osama bin Laden - If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. funded Al Quaida in order to defeat the soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Iraq: Saddam Hussein - Put in power when the U.S. overthrew the previous leader. Anyone see any patterns forming? The U.S. put people in power of these countries, then these leaders get pissed off with the U.S. dictating their policies, and then the U.S. go to war with them. __________________ Brad is a bitch he's a big fat bitch he's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world...

12-15-2003, 12:18 AM	#2
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	war is profit installed puppets do their job and let their countries get invaded. Saddam did it twice __________________

12-15-2003, 12:23 AM	#3
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	US installed Castro? Ayatollah in Israel? Dude the only pattern here is the loop in your cabeza. Get informed before you make posts like this. Edit: Although maybe the patterns you're talking about maybe real, your facts are WAY off man. __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Ironhorse; 12-15-2003 at 12:26 AM..

12-15-2003, 12:32 AM	#4
bena1975ca Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 157	It's late, bite me :P I was taking extracts of info from other sites...okay, I simplified, but the patterns are there __________________ Brad is a bitch he's a big fat bitch he's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world...

12-15-2003, 01:55 AM	#6
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	The only pattern in the example you listed is all those guys were fighting off foreign influence and gained power in the process of rebellions of perceived agressors, in most cases the US. I am trying to stay patriotic here in light of everything, but I'm not letting you get away with this distortion of history. Here's what actually happened, in the correct countries even: 1. Fidel Castro in Cuba- armed coup (Cuban Revolution) against US supported dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista in 1959 2. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran - armed coup against US supported Muhammad Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1979 3. Osama and Al Queda in Afghanistan - armed resistance to a leftist coup and subsequent soviet invasion in 1978, Osama participated in guerilla war against the russians and although the rebels were supported by US, I doubt bin Laden ever thought as himself as 'working for the US' 4. Saddam Hussein in Iraq - a series of coups starting with coup against pro-western King Faisal II, left most power in Iraq in the hands of pro-stalinist regimes, ending with Saddam Hussein in 1979. Saddam had some CIA contact but clearly had his own agenda which was always alot less pro-western that the west liked it. He had close ties with communist Russia as well as Rumanian dicatator Nicolae Ceausescu Really the only pattern here, is lots of shit happened in 1958 as well as 1979 a year before Regan would be elected and also same year George Bush sr. had biggest weight in the CIA which was operating heavily in all 4 areas noted above. Maybe this is not the pattern you were looking for but it is what it is. Man, if you're going to go to bat for your country, use some samples that don't actually work against it. __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Ironhorse; 12-15-2003 at 01:58 AM..

12-15-2003, 01:09 AM	#5
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	Yeah, we have a bad habit of promoting the wrong people... Castro wasn't our bad though (at least I don't think so.)

12-15-2003, 02:37 AM	#8
Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Just ignore him... he's British. ;) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.