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Old 12-02-2003, 06:02 PM   #251
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They say opposites attract.

Football bores me and I love to shop.

Ain't that right, Baddog?
that opposites attract? they say it, not that it works though.

and yes, you could be the woman in the relationship

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Old 12-02-2003, 06:02 PM   #252
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then you are either a Communist, or have yet to start paying property taxes, or want this country to resort to Socialism
I doubt he's paying property tax, he's my age.

I was checking into property taxes a couple months back when I was looking at houses. Think it was about 1% where I was looking. That's about $3,500 yearly. That money better go towards MY community to make MY quality of living better. Some kid doesn't have a book in downtown Chicago? That's sweet and all, but frankly I really don't give a shit. I care about MY community, that's why I'm willing to pay extra to live here.
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i'm implaying that PUBLIC SCHOOLING SHOULD BE EQUAL. i don't care what part of the country you leave in, if your in a public school in the worst part of the USA then you should receive the same education as someone who lives in the Hills in Ca.
Why? and "because it's your right" is not an answer.
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So your belief is that either:

A. The rich must pay for all the expenses of the poor.

OR

B. Abolish public schooling.

If A, then you are in fact a communist.

If B, then I'm with you. Let's get rid of public schools and just go with private. That way the level of education your children receive is based on how much YOU PERSONALLY pay for the service rendered.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:04 PM   #256
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nap, I would LOVE for all children to be very well educated. But, I would also LOVE for people to take responsibility for their own children and their own communities. It's just one of those things. If people can't afford to live in a place where their child can get a good education, then they shouldn't have children. And no, it's not the child's fault. But if we make poor people take birth control, then there is bitching about that too.

Bottom line is, I don't work my ass off to support someone else's child (black or white)> I do it to support my own.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:04 PM   #257
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I doubt he's paying property tax, he's my age.

I was checking into property taxes a couple months back when I was looking at houses. Think it was about 1% where I was looking. That's about $3,500 yearly. That money better go towards MY community to make MY quality of living better. Some kid doesn't have a book in downtown Chicago? That's sweet and all, but frankly I really don't give a shit. I care about MY community, that's why I'm willing to pay extra to live here.
oh, I know . . . . when he starts paying property taxes (I started when I was 23) his attitude will surely change.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:06 PM   #258
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I wonder why that is?
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:07 PM   #259
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I doubt he's paying property tax, he's my age.

I was checking into property taxes a couple months back when I was looking at houses. Think it was about 1% where I was looking. That's about $3,500 yearly. That money better go towards MY community to make MY quality of living better. Some kid doesn't have a book in downtown Chicago? That's sweet and all, but frankly I really don't give a shit. I care about MY community, that's why I'm willing to pay extra to live here.
no property taxes, i live in an apartment(unless its included in my rent). i thought i stated that but apparently not.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:07 PM   #260
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i want children to be educated equally. what are people so afraid of from educating everyone? what could the downside be of the majority of the population being educated? hell i'm not even talking about blacks, i mean everyone.
who pays for it?
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Why? and "because it's your right" is not an answer.
Uh-Oh Aaron...my b/f is here. Sorry, I am not able to start the flirting now.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:09 PM   #262
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replying to jennym's comment

"As for schools in inner cities....were they built dilapidated? No? Well, did all the white kids come in and steal their books, and paint graffiti on the walls? No? I guess you are getting my point.

/end rant"
white kids are as destructive as white kids? did you go to an inner city school or something?

that was way too deep for me
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replying to jennym's comment

"As for schools in inner cities....were they built dilapidated? No? Well, did all the white kids come in and steal their books, and paint graffiti on the walls? No? I guess you are getting my point.

/end rant"
Does it matter if you think that "White kids can be just as destructive as White kids" when the state of inner-city schools has the local kids to blame? Sure, White kids are also capable of holding a spray can and pressing the obvious button, but that isn't relevant when the discussion was about who was to blame for the state of non-White schools.
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So your belief is that either:

A. The rich must pay for all the expenses of the poor.

OR

B. Abolish public schooling.

If A, then you are in fact a communist.

If B, then I'm with you. Let's get rid of public schools and just go with private. That way the level of education your children receive is based on how much YOU PERSONALLY pay for the service rendered.
first time ive been called a communist. i got called a racist last week too(on this board, surprise!) i feel public education should be equal. the thread started as "Fuck equal oppertunity employment". what better way to get rid of these barriers than to educate everyone equally and give everyone level playing ground? why are you people so scared of educating everyone?

read my tag line, does that sound like a statement a communist would make?
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Yeah, I was wondering about that sig.

Are you even in this industry?
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first time ive been called a communist. i got called a racist last week too(on this board, surprise!) i feel public education should be equal. the thread started as "Fuck equal oppertunity employment". what better way to get rid of these barriers than to educate everyone equally and give everyone level playing ground? why are you people so scared of educating everyone?

read my tag line, does that sound like a statement a communist would make?
Nap,
Hate to keep picking on you, but you are the only one in here defending your side

Why do you assume we are SCARED to educate everyone? We aren't. We just don't feel it is OUR RESPONSIBILITY!!

I feel bad for kids whose parents don't give a shit, I really do. But, I quit having children, because I have all I can afford, all I can handle, and all I want to have. As a parent, it is MY responsibility to make sure she has everything she needs in life, including an education.

Also nap, just for the record....there are a lot of white racist fucks in this thread, and I prefer not to be bunched up with them.
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:21 PM   #268
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there are a lot of white racist fucks in this thread, and I prefer not to be bunched up with them.
I assume you are referring to myself and two other persons. Please argue for that position. I am curious.

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Actually, I wasn't recalling any specific names when I typed that. This thread has gone on throughout the day, and I recall reading a few posts, and thinking to myself "what a fucking idiot". I am not going back through 5 pages to find them. I think for the most part though, this has been a fairly intelligent conversation...for GFY.
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Actually, I wasn't recalling any specific names when I typed that. This thread has gone on throughout the day, and I recall reading a few posts, and thinking to myself "what a fucking idiot". I am not going back through 5 pages to find them. I think for the most part though, this has been a fairly intelligent conversation...for GFY.
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Yeah, I was wondering about that sig.

Are you even in this industry?
yep buyt still a "newbie"
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Nap,
Hate to keep picking on you, but you are the only one in here defending your side

Why do you assume we are SCARED to educate everyone? We aren't. We just don't feel it is OUR RESPONSIBILITY!!

I feel bad for kids whose parents don't give a shit, I really do. But, I quit having children, because I have all I can afford, all I can handle, and all I want to have. As a parent, it is MY responsibility to make sure she has everything she needs in life, including an education.

Also nap, just for the record....there are a lot of white racist fucks in this thread, and I prefer not to be bunched up with them.
my fault for taking so long 2 reply, i had 2 run to 711 and kfc.

as far as my side i'm used to it. i voice my opinion and i dont care who supports or oppose me. i dont think your racists nor do i thnk aaron is, but yes there are some hateful people on this board and thread. its life though.

i respect everyones side of the arguement.

p.s. im typin with 1 hand so if there are any typos
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I assume you are referring to myself and two other persons. Please argue for that position. I am curious.
you just gave yourself away
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I'm dreaming of a White country...that is allowed to remain White and prosperous, and free of hostile, mooching, and un-grateful parasites.
That is fair but you do know that is only a dream. It's never been a reality. Even the great Roman civilization fell, not from non-white minorities but by implosion.

I don't have figures on slave trade numbers but there was a point I believe where the ratio was 1 slave for every 5 whites (don't quote me). I don't think the numbers are relevant. There were millions of slaves. Most whites did NOT own slaves. But the issue of that time was not how many people owned slaves, it was that slavery was legally sanctioned. It was legitimate policy. Slavery was the backbone of the south which is why southerners didn't want to give it up. It was a necessary evil in their eyes because it's what maintained the southern economy.


Blacks do have to take more responsibility for themselves. Looking to the white man for a fair shake in a white dominated country will never work. It's just not going to happen. Opportunities are definitely there that some blacks take full advantage of (more need to) but that manysquander (access to education etc., ability to operate own businesses etc). Whites also have some obligations to try to level the playing field more than it is because of recent/current inequalities. Affirmative Action practiced correctly should not allow a less qualified worker to be hired over a better qualified one. It will hire a minority worker with the same qualifications as a white worker. Misapplications of Affirmative Action that we read about were not the original intention of the policy and it's been abused (sometimes for political reasons - it's easier to rally white voters if you publicize an unqualified black getting a fireman job over a more qualified white applicant).

I think what many of us here fail to see is that we see things as they are right now. We're upset at the upheavel and racial issues that seem ongoing and never ending. But what seems like an eternity to us is really only 30, 40 years at most. From 1950 to now, I believe there has been great progress on racial issues and other issues such as Gay and Woman's issues. We may not be here for the next 40 years but I'm confident that the progress will continue.

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another bot?
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Yep.
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my fault for taking so long 2 reply, i had 2 run to 711 and kfc.

as far as my side i'm used to it. i voice my opinion and i dont care who supports or oppose me. i dont think your racists nor do i thnk aaron is, but yes there are some hateful people on this board and thread. its life though.

i respect everyones side of the arguement.

p.s. im typin with 1 hand so if there are any typos
Fucker now I want KFC! Get their slaw?
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my fault for taking so long 2 reply, i had 2 run to 711 and kfc.
Fried chicken...

(sorry, you put it out there and I just couldn't resist )

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i voice my opinion and i dont care who supports or oppose me. yes there are some hateful people on this board and thread. i respect everyones side of the arguement.
same here

Now you have made me hungry. Time for some yummy gumbo. I'll be back later.

enjoy

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you just gave yourself away
No, I said that because we were active and confronting, and being White males, that is not what you want to be in a racial discussion if being smeared scares you.
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first time ive been called a communist. i got called a racist last week too(on this board, surprise!) i feel public education should be equal. the thread started as "Fuck equal oppertunity employment". what better way to get rid of these barriers than to educate everyone equally and give everyone level playing ground? why are you people so scared of educating everyone?

read my tag line, does that sound like a statement a communist would make?
again, who pays for this equal education?
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Fucker now I want KFC! Get their slaw?
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again, who pays for this equal education?
government.
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No, I said that because we were active and confronting, and being White males, that is not what you want to be in a racial discussion if being smeared scares you.
Ok, I didn't leave yet

I don't mind confrontational at all. As a matter of fact, I am very confrontational. I don't bite my tongue, and don't think other people should either.
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That is fair but you do know that is only a dream. It's never been a reality. Even the great Roman civilization fell, not from non-white minorities but by implosion.

I don't have figures on slave trade numbers but there was a point I believe where the ratio was 1 slave for every 5 whites (don't quote me). I don't think the numbers are relevant. There were millions of slaves. Most whites did NOT own slaves. But the issue of that time was not how many people owned slaves, it was that slavery was legally sanctioned. It was legitimate policy. Slavery was the backbone of the south which is why southerners didn't want to give it up. It was a necessary evil in their eyes because it's what maintained the southern economy.


Blacks do have to take more responsibility for themselves. Looking to the white man for a fair shake in a white dominated country will never work. It's just not going to happen. Opportunities are definitely there that some blacks take full advantage of (more need to) but that manysquander (access to education etc., ability to operate own businesses etc). Whites also have some obligations to try to level the playing field more than it is because of recent/current inequalities. Affirmative Action practiced correctly should not allow a less qualified worker to be hired over a better qualified one. It will hire a minority worker with the same qualifications as a white worker. Misapplications of Affirmative Action that we read about were not the original intention of the policy and it's been abused (sometimes for political reasons - it's easier to rally white voters if you publicize an unqualified black getting a fireman job over a more qualified white applicant).

I think what many of us here fail to see is that we see things as they are right now. We're upset at the upheavel and racial issues that seem ongoing and never ending. But what seems like an eternity to us is really only 30, 40 years at most. From 1950 to now, I believe there has been great progress on racial issues and other issues such as Gay and Woman's issues. We may not be here for the next 40 years but I'm confident that the progress will continue.
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You want the government to pay for this?

*I* pay the government. I pay a LOT. I don't want to pay for your kids. If you can't afford to have kids and educate them, don't have them. And if you do don't insult me by demanding that I pay for them.
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and that is fair how?
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so, you propose Socialism? move to Canada please
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Old 12-02-2003, 07:13 PM   #295
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so, you propose Socialism? move to Canada please
no, i have a right to an opinion thanks to this great country. my opinion is that everyone should be educated equally. i don't mind paying for a generations education. which one is better rebuilding a country in the middle east or educating our own?
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Old 12-02-2003, 07:16 PM   #298
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no, i have a right to an opinion thanks to this great country. my opinion is that everyone should be educated equally. i don't mind paying for a generations education. which one is better rebuilding a country in the middle east or educating our own?
idealistic youth are so entertaining . . . . so, you think taxes should be increased how much? and you are still suggesting Socialism if you think the Federal govt should cover education costs for everyone . . . and it has been proven that Socialism leads to the mediocrity you worry about
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With all due respect, the govt. doesn't OWE your kids or mine an education.
So you don't believe in equal opportunity for children.

If people don't want to educate their children that's okay with you?
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So you don't believe in equal opportunity for children.

If people don't want to educate their children that's okay with you?
it is not my responsibility to take care of your children, I took care of my own, and turn down proposals of marriage weekly because I am done raising kids
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