Tip or not to tip

[krazyone]

O.k. I went out tonight to have a meal at Chilis . I was dieing for some babyback ribs. So everything so so when we get done the waiter comes over with the ticket and promplty turns and walks across the room just watching us from a distance. I jokeingly say to my girl how much her half is . I divide the $31.02 ticket up and tell her she owes me $15.51 . She looks in her purse as if to pull out some money . I reach in my wallet and pull out a $50.00 bill and lay it on the table. The waiter almost gallops over to the table and picks it up off the table . Looks at me and says will you be wanting any change. I look up in amazement and say well YES! So I think about it while he is gone and say to myself and my girl should I tip or not , I ended up leaving him $5.00 ......What would you do?

[$5 submissions]

Tipping in the US is voluntary. Not mandatory. With that said, it is customary if you get good service. Basic tip is 15% of your total tab. Given your financial resources at the time, $5 is okay, its better than the $0 you COULD have done if you wished.

In most of the world, tipping is NOT customary. Indeed, in China, during the Mao years, if you tipped, the waiter would get PISSED AT YOU for condescending to him.

[Sosa]

I almost always tip at restraunts. Fuck last weekend I was drunk and left a nice tip at a fucking truck stop restraunt we were at.... Bought for 8 people and left one nice tip for no fucking reason lol.

[jollyperv]

NICE GUY EDDIE: Okay, everybody cough up green for the little lady.
NICE GUY EDDIE: C'mon, throw in a buck.

MR. WHITE: Uh-uh. I don't tip.

NICE GUY EDDIE: Whaddaya mean you don't tip?

MR. WHITE: I don't believe in it.

NICE GUY EDDIE: You don't believe in tipping?

MR. PINK: I love this kid, he's a madman, this guy.

MR. BLONDE: Do you have any idea what these ladies make? They make shit.

MR. WHITE: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.

NICE GUY EDDIE: I don't even know a Jew who'd have the balls to say that. So let's get this straight. You never ever tip?

MR. WHITE: I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job.

MR. BLUE: Our girl was nice.

MR. WHITE: Our girl was okay. She didn't do anything special.

MR. BLONDE: What's something special, take ya in the kitchen and suck your dick?

NICE GUY EDDIE: I'd go over twelve percent for that.

MR. WHITE Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've been here a long fuckin time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times.

MR. BLONDE: What if she's too busy?

MR. WHITE: The words "too busy" shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary.

NICE GUY EDDIE: Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last thing you need is another cup of coffee.

MR. WHITE: These ladies aren't starvin to death. They make minimum wage. When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy.

NICE GUY EDDIE: Ahh, now we're getting down to it. It's not just that he's a cheap bastard--

MR. ORANGE: --It is that too--

NICE GUY EDDIE: --It is that too. But it's also he couldn't get a waiter job. You talk like a pissed off dishwasher: "Fuck those hahahahas and their fucking tips."

MR. BLONDE: So you don't care that they're counting on your tip to live?

MR. WHITE: Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses.





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MR. BLONDE: You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.
MR. WHITE: So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin ya food, you should tip em. But no, society says tip these guys over here, but not those guys over there. That's bullshit.

MR. ORANGE: They work harder than the kids at McDonald's.

MR. WHITE: Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning fryers.

MR. BROWN: These people are taxed on the tips they make. When you stiff 'em, you cost them money.

MR. BLONDE: Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one jab basically any woman can get, and make a living on. The reason is because of tips.

MR. WHITE: Fuck all that. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.

MR. ORANGE: He's convinced me. Give me my dollar back.

JOE: Okay ramblers, let's get to rambling. Wait a minute, who didn't throw in?

MR. ORANGE: Mr. White.

JOE: Mr. White? Why?

MR. ORANGE: He don't tip.

JOE: He don't tip? You don't tip? Why?

MR. ORANGE: He don't believe in it.

JOE: He don't believe in it? You don't believe in it?

MR. ORANGE: Nope.

JOE: Shut up! Cough up the buck, ya cheap bastard, I paid for your goddamn breakfast.

MR. WHITE: Because you paid for the breakfast, I'm gonna tip. Normally I wouldn't.

[smack]

i work in a restaruant, i'm a chef, so i get to listen to people bitch about bad tips all day. here's how it is.

if my server is good i always leave AT least 20% the reason i like to tip high i because it's these's people livelyhoods, also if you frequent there, the next time you come back they will remember you and you will get twice the service.

if the service is shitty fuck em.

5 dollars on 31 is a good tip, it's right around what thy would hope to get on the meal, 10 - 15%. surprisingly enough, about 50% of people don't tip more than 5%.

so bottom line, at least 10% even if the service is sub standard, anything more than that, judge it for yourself. how much was their attentiveness worth to you?

[Forest]

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Tipping in the US is voluntary. Not mandatory.

you have OBVIOUSLY never waited tables

the avg waiter in the us earns 2.10 - 3.50 usd per hour Before taxes on the sales of the foos, and booze they sell so tiping is MANDATORY

the % of the tip is at the discresion of the diner

15% is average

I start a meal at a 20% tip

if the service is bad i drop the %

if good I raise it

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest

you have OBVIOULY never waited tables

the avg waiter in the us earns 2.10 usd per hour so tiping is MANDATORY

the % of the tip is at the discresion of the diner

15% is average

Its crazy in the US. Those waiters make more on tips in 1 day than then average waiter makes in Holland for 3 days of working.

New York 3 days:
75 on taxi's
200 on food
500 in the stripclub
300 in tips

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest

you have OBVIOUSLY never waited tables

the avg waiter in the us earns 2.10 - 3.50 usd per hour Before taxes on the sales of the foos, and booze they sell so tiping is MANDATORY

the % of the tip is at the discresion of the diner

15% is average

I start a meal at a 20% tip

if the service is bad i drop the %

if good I raise it

Just 1 tip already makes that up and they get like what 20 tips a person a night??

[Forest]

Originally posted by Battuss


Its crazy in the US. Those waiters make more on tips in 1 day than then average waiter makes in Holland for 3 days of working.

New York 3 days:
75 on taxi's
200 on food
500 in the stripclub
300 in tips

yeah but the service i have always had in holland was no where near as good as the service in NYC

PLus in europe they are paid a much bigger hourly or flat wage

In america the govt Taxes waiters on 8% of ALL SALES

[stevo]

How much do guys tip for valet parking?

[Forest]

Originally posted by stevo
How much do guys tip for valet parking?

a buck or 2 when i drop off

2-3 when i pick up

[Forest]

Rule of thumb for tiping

The amount you tip is always relative to the amount of service you received

shit service shit tip

excellent service... BIG TIP

These guys and girls work thier asses off usually to make you meal a memorable one

dont stiff them on it

Bad Karma

[brand0n]

Fuck all that. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.

fuckin love that line

[$5 submissions]

Yeah, Forest,I've never waited tables. I can see where you're coming from though. I consider tipping as putting something in the KARMA jar. Good tip = good karma.

Originally posted by Forest

you have OBVIOUSLY never waited tables

the avg waiter in the us earns 2.10 - 3.50 usd per hour Before taxes on the sales of the foos, and booze they sell so tiping is MANDATORY

the % of the tip is at the discresion of the diner

15% is average

I start a meal at a 20% tip

if the service is bad i drop the %

if good I raise it

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by brand0n
Fuck all that. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.

fuckin love that line

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest

a buck or 2 when i drop off

2-3 when i pick up

5 bucks.

That guy goes home end of the day with 300 in tips in his pocket.

Poor guy, works for a min wage.

[Matt 26z]

We had a waitress screw us over the other day, and she was terrible service too.

There was several people at our table, and an $8 tip was left. Then we get up to the register and notice "tax" crossed out on the bill and "tip" written in. So that bitch got a double tip, and I noticed she scooped up that $8 pretty quick too.

I wonder how often this happens where people don't pay attention to the receipt and leave a tip on the table too?

[SomeCreep]

Originally posted by krazyone
O.k. I went out tonight to have a meal at Chilis . I was dieing for some babyback ribs. So everything so so when we get done the waiter comes over with the ticket and promplty turns and walks across the room just watching us from a distance. I jokeingly say to my girl how much her half is . I divide the $31.02 ticket up and tell her she owes me $15.51 . She looks in her purse as if to pull out some money . I reach in my wallet and pull out a $50.00 bill and lay it on the table. The waiter almost gallops over to the table and picks it up off the table . Looks at me and says will you be wanting any change. I look up in amazement and say well YES! So I think about it while he is gone and say to myself and my girl should I tip or not , I ended up leaving him $5.00 ......What would you do?

If his service was outstanding, leave him $5, else $2. Simple. Fuck that 15% bullshit.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Matt 26z
We had a waitress screw us over the other day, and she was terrible service too.

There was several people at our table, and an $8 tip was left. Then we get up to the register and notice "tax" crossed out on the bill and "tip" written in. So that bitch got a double tip, and I noticed she scooped up that $8 pretty quick too.

I wonder how often this happens where people don't pay attention to the receipt and leave a tip on the table too?

In the stripclub in ny this stupid ass waitress dropped all out drinks. Bags, cigarettes, everything was wet.
Anyway, she came back with new drinks. Bill was $39 so i gave her 40 and said keep the dollar.
She looked at me and said, this is all youre gonna tip me? I said yes, i shouldnt have tipped you anything but instead ask you for new cigarettes. She left while saying she wouldnt help us anymore.
Stupid bitch.

In a nightclub i ordered 1 drink, 6 bucks, gave 10, she kept the 4 bucks without asking me.

This tipping thing in America maybe once was usefull but now its completely fucked up.

[Forest]

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Yeah, Forest,I've never waited tables. I can see where you're coming from though. I consider tipping as putting something in the KARMA jar. Good tip = good karma.

there are soo many servers that walk home with 30-50 bucks a day and are on their feet for 8 hours in and out of a sweety kitchen and dealing with people most of you wouldnt even stoop to spit on

Karma is one thing

a Living wage is another

[Forest]

Originally posted by Battuss


5 bucks.

That guy goes home end of the day with 300 in tips in his pocket.

Poor guy, works for a min wage.

Man

i would love to see Any of you last a month in the service business

I would bet a month money that 99% couldnt hack it

would quit, get fired or tell a customer to fuck off

[Forest]

Originally posted by SomeCreep


If his service was outstanding, leave him $5, else $2. Simple. Fuck that 15% bullshit.

I hope they spit in your food



should see some of the things we use to do to unfriendly customers who we KNEW we werent getting a tip from
would make you never eat out again

Think about that next time you go out

[Wade]

We dont tip down here but still get good service. You get what you pay for though, cheap restaurants mean avg service, and expensive restaurants often mean better service.

Why dont restaurant owners pay their staff better in the US?

[Forest]

Originally posted by Wade
We dont tip down here but still get good service. You get what you pay for though, cheap restaurants mean avg service, and expensive restaurants often mean better service.

Why dont restaurant owners pay their staff better in the US?

because they dont have to

the system was never set up that way

I belive in paying well if the service is good

you should see the looks i get in europe when i tip

Like im fucking rockefeller or something


One girl in pauge actual chased us down cause she thought we left 100 kronas behind by mistake



4 bucks

[Marcus]

good thing youre not famous, you might go into the shitty tipper database

http://www.bitterwaitress.com/std/


I always overtip.
I worked as a waiter for a few years a while back and some customers can be true assholes with their stupid fucking demands.

I give
a buck a drink
a buck a bag
$5-10 for groceries
18-20% at restaurants and for really good service it's always ok to give more

[Forest]

Originally posted by Marcus
good thing youre not famous, you might go into the shitty tipper database

http://www.bitterwaitress.com/std/


I always overtip.
I worked as a waiter for a few years a while back and some customers can be true assholes with their stupid fucking demands.

I give
a buck a drink
a buck a bag
$5-10 for groceries
18-20% at restaurants and for really good service it's always ok to give more

People who have served know what a shitty job it can be when you have cheap assholes for customers

Dont Tip and your just a cheapskate in my book

[Plan9]

I always tip 15%. My philosophy is, if I can afford eating out, I can afford to tip, and its a nice thing to do. Good karma, and as people said - if you go back, they'll remember you. Maybe its how I was brought up.

If you can't afford the 15%, you probably shouldn't be wasting money on eating out in the first place *shrug*

[Wade]

Originally posted by Forest


because they dont have to

the system was never set up that way

I belive in paying well if the service is good

you should see the looks i get in europe when i tip

Like im fucking rockefeller or something


One girl in pauge actual chased us down cause she thought we left 100 kronas behind by mistake



4 bucks

Thats what its like here, no one expects it, and if you do leave the change they look at you wierd. Also most often the tip here will go to the owner not the server. Here = Australia btw.

The times I've been to the US I have had good service 50% of the time, the other 50% its been shit, but it feels like you have to tip no matter what. I can understand tipping at restaurants, but I dont understand why you have to tip cab drivers? They get really shitty if you dont tip, even if they did nothing for you, half of them dont even say hello! Shit, in Australia if you give them a couple of bucks they will say thank you multiple times as you leave the car.

[Forest]

Originally posted by Plan9
I always tip 15%. My philosophy is, if I can afford eating out, I can afford to tip, and its a nice thing to do. Good karma, and as people said - if you go back, they'll remember you. Maybe its how I was brought up.

If you can't afford the 15%, you probably shouldn't be wasting money on eating out in the first place *shrug*

EXCELLENT POST!

[Shooter]

Originally posted by Marcus
good thing youre not famous, you might go into the shitty tipper database

http://www.bitterwaitress.com/std/

Hehe, good reading

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest


People who have served know what a shitty job it can be when you have cheap assholes for customers

Dont Tip and your just a cheapskate in my book

Stop crying dude, i worked in that business for years and years. From my 15th till 4 years ago when i went fulltime in the internet biz. (thats 8 years)
SO yes i prolly know WAY better than you whats it like to wait tables, work behind a bar and work in a kitchen.

[Forest]

Originally posted by Wade



Thats what its like here, no one expects it, and if you do leave the change they look at you wierd. Also most often the tip here will go to the owner not the server. Here = Australia btw.

The times I've been to the US I have had good service 50% of the time, the other 50% its been shit, but it feels like you have to tip no matter what. I can understand tipping at restaurants, but I dont understand why you have to tip cab drivers? They get really shitty if you dont tip, even if they did nothing for you, half of them dont even say hello! Shit, in Australia if you give them a couple of bucks they will say thank you multiple times as you leave the car.

here is a clue in on cabbie tiping

cabbies make SHIT money on averge

the cab company or the lease of the cab can take up to 60% of the fare THEN they still have to pay gas on top of that and some even still have to pay thier own insurance

$1 tip for a cabbie is good on up to a 15-20 fare

$2-3 for more

nothing really big

ITS A NICE THING TO DO!

[Forest]

Originally posted by Battuss


Stop crying dude, i worked in that business for years and years. From my 15th till 4 years ago when i went fulltime in the internet biz. (thats 8 years)
SO yes i prolly know WAY better than you whats it like to wait tables, work behind a bar and work in a kitchen.

whos crying?

im just calling you a cheap ass

I doubt you know a fraction of what i know of the restaurant business

Ive managed some of the best in the states

been in it since I was a baby (family has had rest.)



so keep you lousy dutch service to yourself please

[$5 submissions]

I agree with Forest... not a good idea to PISS OFF the person who handles your food.

I had a buddy in high school who would get his rocks off fucking with pizza delivery guys. He would order pizza that is worth 15.80 and give the guy 16.00 payment... meaning he is giving 20 cents tip.

Anyway, my buddy quit his shenanigans when he saw pubic hair inside his next pepperoni pizza. Unfortunately... he saw it on the last slice remaining when much of the cheese was stripped and he saw the pubic hair.

You may not want to tip too much but don't under any circumstance piss off your food handler.

[Forest]

http://www.louiesbackyard.com/

Best restaurant In S. Florida 5 years in a row

and I was manager 2 of those five years

[Forest]

and battus i know your thick so ill post the awards so you dont have to go searching for them

1986-1993 South Florida Magazine's Critics Choice Award.

1986-1993 South Florida Magazine's Reader's Choice Award.

1987-1994 Florida Trend Magazine has voted us in the Top 100 .

1991-2001 Our Wine List has been given the Award of Excellence from The Wine Spectator each of these years.

1992 Florida Trend Magazine Golden Spoon Award, representing the Top 20 Restaurants.

1994 Radio KEY 93 'The 4th Annual People's Choice Awards for 1994' 'Key West's Favorites' Overall Best Restaurant and Place for Romantic Dinner .

1995 Fine Dining Award, Florida Living Magazine .

1995 4 Stars , The Miami Herald .

1995-2001 Florida Trend Magazine's Top 200 Restaurants .

1996 Zagat Survey's Most Popular Restaurant and tied for Top Decor with Little Palm Island.

1996 Reader's Choice Best of the Best award, Florida Living Magazine .

1996 Best Romantic Restaurant , South Florida Magazine .

1998 Most Romantic Restaurant, Miami Metro Magazine .

In addition, Louie's has been featured in the Key West Citizen's Best of Key West several times.

Louie's is also a founding member of the 'Distinguished Restaurants of North America'.

As you can see, Louie's Backyard is one of the finest fine dining establishments in the South.

[Wade]

Originally posted by Forest


here is a clue in on cabbie tiping

cabbies make SHIT money on averge

the cab company or the lease of the cab can take up to 60% of the fare THEN they still have to pay gas on top of that and some even still have to pay thier own insurance

$1 tip for a cabbie is good on up to a 15-20 fare

$2-3 for more

nothing really big

ITS A NICE THING TO DO!

Thanks, I never know how much to give to cabbies, but seems like no matter how much I give they are never happy, they have that pissed off look. The last convention in Miami was the worst for cabbies, I think we must of had 20+ cab rides and only 1 half decent driver that actually deserved his tip and was grateful for it.

[JDog]

Originally posted by brand0n
Fuck all that. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.

fuckin love that line

But many of them don't claim it, I know people that didn't claim $200 in tips a night if they made that, the only tips they claimed were credit card tips! So the government doesn't tax on everything!!

jDoG

[Forest]

Originally posted by Wade


Thanks, I never know how much to give to cabbies, but seems like no matter how much I give they are never happy, they have that pissed off look. The last convention in Miami was the worst for cabbies, I think we must of had 20+ cab rides and only 1 half decent driver that actually deserved his tip and was grateful for it.

i know

and i agree

shit service deserve shit tips

[Forest]

Originally posted by JDog


But many of them don't claim it, I know people that didn't claim $200 in tips a night if they made that, the only tips they claimed were credit card tips! So the government doesn't tax on everything!!

jDoG

jdog

you are incorrect

the Owners or the establishment MUST reportt SALES

waiters each have their own Sales sheet and MUST claim 8% OF SALES not TIPS!

see the difference

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest
http://www.louiesbackyard.com/

Best restaurant In S. Florida 5 years in a row

and I was manager 2 of those five years

Bite me.

[DirkG]

Originally posted by Forest

you have OBVIOUSLY never waited tables

the avg waiter in the us earns 2.10 - 3.50 usd per hour Before taxes on the sales of the foos, and booze they sell so tiping is MANDATORY

the % of the tip is at the discresion of the diner

15% is average

I start a meal at a 20% tip

if the service is bad i drop the %

if good I raise it

You are high. There are a few states that allow tipped employees to make less than minimum wage. Just a few. MOST states require everyone to be paid at least federal minumun wage, if not more. In Oregon our minimum legal wage will be $7.10 an hour of any employee, tipped or not. To avoid the min wage law, some strip joints were charging dancers a dance fee a few years back. This was ruled illegal also, and back pay was paid to all strippers who were involved in the law suits.
My tipped employees make very good money, but just over half my customers tip. It is NOT MANDATORY. That is absurd. Just last week we went out for dinner. The waitress forgot my beer, forgot a shake. Never filled the water glasses. By the time she remembered the beer, it was after 1:30am so she couldnt bring it out. She remembered only because I asked about it after our food came. She brought us the bill to the wrong table so we were undercharged $20 until we showed the host the wrong bill. She got no tip, she deserved less than nothing. She made our experience less pleasureable than if we had waited on ourselves.
Tips are about appretiation and thanks, tips are about our feelings of gratiousness for the effort the staff puts out to make us happy, hence the word "gratuity".
Just because tips are expected doesnt mean they are manditory. Thats is exactly the reason I know some waitresses that make $200 a night and others that make $50 a night working the same hours at the same club. The $200 a night girls go out of their way to be nice and make sure the customer doesnt have to ask for anything and they are always watching the customer to make sure they are there for any reason. The $50 a night girls wait until the customer flags them down for a new drink, they stay off in the corner talking to each other an ignore their customers and then bitch about lousy tips.
Its all about service levels. Standard service should get tipped whatever you feel in your heart is right. Poor service should get nothing, or maybe a handful of pennies turned upside down in a glassful of water if you are a mean person. Good, attentive, out of the ordinary service that has anticipated your needs before you realize you need something should be tipped very well.
Of course the definition of poor and very well is determined by each persons state of being. If I am buying a $5 lunch and have normally good service, right now I would tip a buck. A few years ago when I was in a better place I would have tipped two bucks. But its not about what I would do, its about what each person feels they should do. By no means is it what they HAVE to do.

[Dirty F]

Forest, why exactly do these guys deserve huge tips and people having other jobs dont?
Give me a good reason to tip waiters like mad so they can go home with triple the amount of what anybody else would make.

Are they forced to do this job? Is it hell on earth? Is it slavery?
No, its a job like any other job.

[Furious_Female]

I always tip servers at least 25%... their income depends on tips and I can appreciate what they do. Even if I spend $20 bucks on lunch, I'll leave them $10 bucks. I also tip my hair dresser and delivery guys... I'm generous

[Forest]

Originally posted by DirkG


You are high. There are a few states that allow tipped employees to make less than minimum wage. Just a few. MOST states require everyone to be paid at least federal minumun wage, if not more. In Oregon our minimum legal wage will be $7.10 an hour of any employee, tipped or not. To avoid the min wage law, some strip joints were charging dancers a dance fee a few years back. This was ruled illegal also, and back pay was paid to all strippers who were involved in the law suits.
My tipped employees make very good money, but just over half my customers tip. It is NOT MANDATORY. That is absurd. Just last week we went out for dinner. The waitress forgot my beer, forgot a shake. Never filled the water glasses. By the time she remembered the beer, it was after 1:30am so she couldnt bring it out. She remembered only because I asked about it after our food came. She brought us the bill to the wrong table so we were undercharged $20 until we showed the host the wrong bill. She got no tip, she deserved less than nothing. She made our experience less pleasureable than if we had waited on ourselves.
Tips are about appretiation and thanks, tips are about our feelings of gratiousness for the effort the staff puts out to make us happy, hence the word "gratuity".
Just because tips are expected doesnt mean they are manditory. Thats is exactly the reason I know some waitresses that make $200 a night and others that make $50 a night working the same hours at the same club. The $200 a night girls go out of their way to be nice and make sure the customer doesnt have to ask for anything and they are always watching the customer to make sure they are there for any reason. The $50 a night girls wait until the customer flags them down for a new drink, they stay off in the corner talking to each other an ignore their customers and then bitch about lousy tips.
Its all about service levels. Standard service should get tipped whatever you feel in your heart is right. Poor service should get nothing, or maybe a handful of pennies turned upside down in a glassful of water if you are a mean person. Good, attentive, out of the ordinary service that has anticipated your needs before you realize you need something should be tipped very well.
Of course the definition of poor and very well is determined by each persons state of being. If I am buying a $5 lunch and have normally good service, right now I would tip a buck. A few years ago when I was in a better place I would have tipped two bucks. But its not about what I would do, its about what each person feels they should do. By no means is it what they HAVE to do.

so you proved my point good service gets good tips

bad service...

BUT if you go out feeling you dont have to tip your fucking cheap PERIOD!

Thanx man

and I wish i were hi

Ukraine is a dry town

[Forest]

Originally posted by Battuss
Forest, why exactly do these guys deserve huge tips and people having other jobs dont?
Give me a good reason to tip waiters like mad so they can go home with triple the amount of what anybody else would make.

Are they forced to do this job? Is it hell on earth? Is it slavery?
No, its a job like any other job.

hmm lets see

bacause a Pilot, or mechanic or whatever KNOWS at the end of the week what his salery is

a waitstaff DOESNT and wont know.

His job performance level is directly linked to his % of tip

and waiters DONT make that kind of money unless they are working in the best houses.

The average waiter in america Proably makes between 80-120 a shift in tips

Thats NOTHING!

and they are on their feet for 6-10 hours a shift and dealing with mostly ASSHOLES

dont you pay girls more for doing anal?

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I always tip servers at least 25%... their income depends on tips and I can appreciate what they do. Even if I spend $20 bucks on lunch, I'll leave them $10 bucks. I also tip my hair dresser and delivery guys... I'm generous

Arrgh here we go again.

If you think like that why dont you give money to the other 90% of americans who have a min wage?

Did it eve occur to you that thanks to people like you these guys get overpaid by far! They are making way more money then what they should for their job.
In Holland someone has to work more than a hour for what you tip a person to bring you a shitty sandwich.
You are honestly out of your mind.

[DirkG]

Originally posted by Forest


yeah but the service i have always had in holland was no where near as good as the service in NYC

PLus in europe they are paid a much bigger hourly or flat wage

In america the govt Taxes waiters on 8% of ALL SALES

Again this is not true. Employees use a form to report to the IRS each week what they got paid in tips. If the amount is over $20 in a 4 week period they are taxed on it. The ONLY time a business is required to tax a persons sales is if they are found to have repeated lied to the IRS about their tip income. If you are caught, they go back for as long as they can and make you pay up to 8% of all sales. If you fill out your weekly tip forms correctly this will not be a problem. You speak like you know what you are talking about, and I honestly thing you know what you are talking about. But someone has fed you bad information that you have taken for the truth. So many of my employees have been told false things like this that you wouldnt believe.

[Marcus]

Originally posted by Battuss

so they can go home with triple the amount of what anybody else would make.

Are they forced to do this job? Is it hell on earth? Is it slavery?
No, its a job like any other job.

lol, hardly
have you ever seen a rich waiter? I haven't.

you probably don't realize what it's like being on your feet for 4-12 hours straight running back and forth, dealing with asshole cooks, asshole manager and asshole customers. it's a hard job it's not easy.
and if they do make good money they had to work their bloody asses off for it.

I'd never be a waiter again, I'd rather collect cans out of the garbage. it's a hard job and therefore I appreciate the people who do it.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Forest

hmm lets see

bacause a Pilot, or mechanic or whatever KNOWS at the end of the week what his salery is

a waitstaff DOESNT and wont know.

His job performance level is directly linked to his % of tip

and waiters DONT make that kind of money unless they are working in the best houses.

The average waiter in america Proably makes between 80-120 a shift in tips

Thats NOTHING!

and they are on their feet for 6-10 hours a shift and dealing with mostly ASSHOLES

dont you pay girls more for doing anal?

100 bucks a day extra eh?
Thats more than 10 hours of work for the average Dutch guy with an average job who is working just as hard as any waiter.

This is insane..oh no wait, its America where everything has to be bigger and more.