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Old 11-14-2003, 01:25 AM  
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Originally posted by DirkG


You are high. There are a few states that allow tipped employees to make less than minimum wage. Just a few. MOST states require everyone to be paid at least federal minumun wage, if not more. In Oregon our minimum legal wage will be $7.10 an hour of any employee, tipped or not. To avoid the min wage law, some strip joints were charging dancers a dance fee a few years back. This was ruled illegal also, and back pay was paid to all strippers who were involved in the law suits.
My tipped employees make very good money, but just over half my customers tip. It is NOT MANDATORY. That is absurd. Just last week we went out for dinner. The waitress forgot my beer, forgot a shake. Never filled the water glasses. By the time she remembered the beer, it was after 1:30am so she couldnt bring it out. She remembered only because I asked about it after our food came. She brought us the bill to the wrong table so we were undercharged $20 until we showed the host the wrong bill. She got no tip, she deserved less than nothing. She made our experience less pleasureable than if we had waited on ourselves.
Tips are about appretiation and thanks, tips are about our feelings of gratiousness for the effort the staff puts out to make us happy, hence the word "gratuity".
Just because tips are expected doesnt mean they are manditory. Thats is exactly the reason I know some waitresses that make $200 a night and others that make $50 a night working the same hours at the same club. The $200 a night girls go out of their way to be nice and make sure the customer doesnt have to ask for anything and they are always watching the customer to make sure they are there for any reason. The $50 a night girls wait until the customer flags them down for a new drink, they stay off in the corner talking to each other an ignore their customers and then bitch about lousy tips.
Its all about service levels. Standard service should get tipped whatever you feel in your heart is right. Poor service should get nothing, or maybe a handful of pennies turned upside down in a glassful of water if you are a mean person. Good, attentive, out of the ordinary service that has anticipated your needs before you realize you need something should be tipped very well.
Of course the definition of poor and very well is determined by each persons state of being. If I am buying a $5 lunch and have normally good service, right now I would tip a buck. A few years ago when I was in a better place I would have tipped two bucks. But its not about what I would do, its about what each person feels they should do. By no means is it what they HAVE to do.
so you proved my point good service gets good tips

bad service...

BUT if you go out feeling you dont have to tip your fucking cheap PERIOD!

Thanx man

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