Beware - Icecoldcash - GoFuckYourself.com

evilshaun · 11-06-2003, 05:39 PM

Hi,

Approx 3 months ago I started sending joins to Icecoldcash. I sent a fair amount of joins before stopping and waiting to get paid.

It's now been 3 months, and i've received only ~$350 dollars out of the owed ~5k. After finding out instead of being paid $35-40 per join as originally signed up for, my account has secretly been switched to revshare and I was only paid a piddly $350. Can't even payout 5K???

This is all after their sales people pushed me to send more and more, even when they were 2 months in arrears. I'm told it's due to webmaster fraud, but anyone that knows me knows that would never be the case. I was strung along for 3 months with lies and excuses from 3 different people there, actually maybe believing I would receive my money, it doesn't appear to be the case as of today. Maybe it all came from the top down, not sure, but I was bullshitted to majorly.

This is not a unique case also, some of my friends have had the same problems.

Moral of story:
People, beware, when you're not paid up and people push you really hard for more joins, you should have an idea what's up. Even companies with people that have been in the industry long still seem to have no morals and would rather lie/cheat/steal and string you along as long as possible before admitting the truth.

If anyone questions the validity of this, it can be proved with screenshots/logs/emails.

MetaformX · 11-06-2003, 06:27 PM

Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

wargames · 11-06-2003, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

i wouldnt be supprised

detoxed · 11-06-2003, 06:30 PM

He cant reply because he is dead in a gutter

nxixnxo · 11-06-2003, 08:19 PM

fyi... exact thing happned to me... owed me for about 75 signups... asked me to send more traffic... changed to me rev share without my consent or knowledge... called to ask them whats up... and was given the runaround...

shame on you icecoldcash....

Veterans Day · 11-06-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

VirtuMike · 11-06-2003, 09:55 PM

I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

nosey · 11-06-2003, 09:59 PM

uh oh

integrated · 11-06-2003, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

believe it

hyper · 11-06-2003, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

if the sites dont retain it does make a big difference.

that goes with any sponsor, im not singling anyone out

BradShaw · 11-06-2003, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

There is.

Kimmykim · 11-06-2003, 10:22 PM

How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards?

If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.

Pornwolf · 11-06-2003, 10:41 PM

Kimmy Kim did me wrong! She gave me a peek of her in a fur and promised me she'd show the rest of her nude shots. Did she show me? No. I ended up with blue balls thanks to Little Ki, er uh, I mean, Kimmy Kim..

BradShaw · 11-06-2003, 10:41 PM

ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me.

With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference.

evilshaun · 11-06-2003, 11:20 PM

KimmyKim, sometimes it takes publicity to get things done, don't you think?

brand0n · 11-06-2003, 11:23 PM

ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over

integrated · 11-06-2003, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over

yes i bet they are going to go broke without your 1 sign per week

dont hate me please?

Furious_Male · 11-06-2003, 11:25 PM

Has anyone received email from them stating that this is what they are doing? I have an idle account with them and I haven't received anything.

MetaformX · 11-06-2003, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly

okay, thats pretty messed up

SYLVER · 11-06-2003, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards?

If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.

YET ANOTHER THREAD Kimmy Kim Sticks Her Nose In!
Mind your own KK. This has nothing to do with you.
Apparently this is a major problem and dead beat programs need to be exposed.

assistant27 · 11-06-2003, 11:50 PM

same way flyntdigital screwed me.

4Pics · 11-07-2003, 01:21 AM

ouch, well thanks for the heads up on another program to avoid.

BVF · 11-07-2003, 01:41 AM

I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party

gleem · 11-07-2003, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me.

With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference.

Brad, for all the crap you take, I like your style, most guys in your position wouldn't be so frank about stuff like that on a board.

I too was HOUNDED to send traffic, I sent 10k of traffic doing 1:500 to nastydollars, 1:700 to topbucks, I went 1:12,000 and dumped them. And they had the nerve to ask me to try again.

Converting people to partner accounts is total crap, if you can't pay the $35 to $40 per signups, don't offer it!

Pad · 11-07-2003, 01:49 AM

you guys make this guy JoeE out to be a mobster

he must be neato

Kevin2 · 11-07-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party

I'm not suprised he can throw a hell of a party. That takes money and it seems it's the webmasters money.

Dildozer · 11-07-2003, 03:28 AM

That's quite disturbing

wow......

Mike-BP · 11-07-2003, 04:13 AM

Damn...they spammed me several times to use their program - very glad I did not do it

Will NEVER use a dishonest program like this.

SABAI · 11-07-2003, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party

with the screwed webmasters money?

JamesK · 11-07-2003, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
That's quite disturbing

wow......

yes

Mr.Soze · 11-07-2003, 05:36 AM

Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

Better send that traffic somewhere else...

Krome · 11-07-2003, 05:58 AM

Bro atleast you got $350. I had a load of sites that had been sending traffic to Private Gold when it was run by TCG. Every month I would get $1k. Not much but it was just easy money from a load fo sites Ihad launched years ago. Since it has gone over to IceColdCash I have not recieved any money since they launched.

IceColdCash is a joke.

gin · 11-07-2003, 06:08 AM

i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

johnbosh · 11-07-2003, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gin
i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

we join them ourselves:D

KRL · 11-07-2003, 06:25 AM

JoeE is a legend in this biz.

You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

Everyone is entitled to some screwups.

BrentD · 11-07-2003, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

What the fuck? If the man was ripped off he has the right to post his feelings, why the fuck you all over his ass?

Veterans Day · 11-07-2003, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
JoeE is a legend in this biz.

You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

Everyone is entitled to some screwups.

Thats a classic statement that can be used in every scenario in the world. By golly you cant be serious? If so I feel for your thoughts. Screwup? Ya right

JamesK · 11-07-2003, 06:38 AM

I want IceCold to reply to this thread.

KRL · 11-07-2003, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Thats a classic statement that can be used in every scenario in the world. By golly you cant be serious? If so I feel for your thoughts. Screwup? Ya right

People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

DarkJedi · 11-07-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
with the screwed webmasters money?

basschick · 11-07-2003, 07:37 AM

KRL, are you serious?!?!?!?!?

this program was changed AFTER checks were overdue, and even then people didn't get paid. and all this while paying for a gfy banner! until you can pay your webmasters, you have no business IN business. if you change people to revshare, you need to tell them - IMMEDIATELY. then it's their right to decide whether or not to promote you.

i'm glad to see this come to the board so more people don't end up having to spend money on search engine hits that they won't get paid for!

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

Veterans Day · 11-07-2003, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

If hes such a legend I would figure he would have proper guidance from some of his connections, as hes a legend and most legends have connections

Makes no sense, but I do see your point nonetheless

Kick Ass Chat · 11-07-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
JoeE is a legend in this biz.

You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

Everyone is entitled to some screwups.

Legend ??...are you serious..hahaha If what people are saying here is true the guy's nothing but a 2 bit hustler, and scam artest!!

Mr.Soze · 11-07-2003, 08:30 AM

Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

Better send that traffic somewhere else...

CraigA · 11-07-2003, 09:56 AM

Bad business to be sure, but TCG pays webmasters weekly and on time since 1996

I couldn't resist.

BradShaw · 11-07-2003, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

I agree. I have respect for JoeE. He is one of the forfathers of this business, and along with JB built CEN/TCG. Always tried to stay out of the riff raff back and forth with he and JB. Just hope they both get it worked out.

I am just not a fan of turning accounts into partner accounts retroactive.

gornyhuy · 11-07-2003, 10:52 AM

Is JoeE on GFY? Can we get their side of the story on this shit?

4Pics · 11-07-2003, 10:54 AM

This reminds me back when they started turning per click money into pay per sale because they couldn't afford to pay you .10-.12 cents a hit anymore unless you converted better then x.

Phoenix · 11-07-2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gin
i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

Gin..you got a contact i can have to get in touch?

Kimmykim · 11-07-2003, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SYLVER

YET ANOTHER THREAD Kimmy Kim Sticks Her Nose In!
Mind your own KK. This has nothing to do with you.
Apparently this is a major problem and dead beat programs need to be exposed.

Oh stop your whining too. There's no love lost between Joe and I, and that's pretty well known, but if you aren't making money with someone then take your traffic somewhere else.

11-06-2003, 05:39 PM	#1
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Beware - Icecoldcash Hi, Approx 3 months ago I started sending joins to Icecoldcash. I sent a fair amount of joins before stopping and waiting to get paid. It's now been 3 months, and i've received only ~$350 dollars out of the owed ~5k. After finding out instead of being paid $35-40 per join as originally signed up for, my account has secretly been switched to revshare and I was only paid a piddly $350. Can't even payout 5K??? This is all after their sales people pushed me to send more and more, even when they were 2 months in arrears. I'm told it's due to webmaster fraud, but anyone that knows me knows that would never be the case. I was strung along for 3 months with lies and excuses from 3 different people there, actually maybe believing I would receive my money, it doesn't appear to be the case as of today. Maybe it all came from the top down, not sure, but I was bullshitted to majorly. This is not a unique case also, some of my friends have had the same problems. Moral of story: People, beware, when you're not paid up and people push you really hard for more joins, you should have an idea what's up. Even companies with people that have been in the industry long still seem to have no morals and would rather lie/cheat/steal and string you along as long as possible before admitting the truth. If anyone questions the validity of this, it can be proved with screenshots/logs/emails.

11-06-2003, 06:27 PM	#2
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere __________________

11-06-2003, 08:19 PM	#5
nxixnxo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: miami,fl,usa Posts: 238	fyi... exact thing happned to me... owed me for about 75 signups... asked me to send more traffic... changed to me rev share without my consent or knowledge... called to ask them whats up... and was given the runaround... shame on you icecoldcash.... __________________ im out suckas

11-06-2003, 09:55 PM	#7
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

11-06-2003, 09:59 PM	#8
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11-06-2003, 06:30 PM	#4
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	He cant reply because he is dead in a gutter

11-06-2003, 10:22 PM	#12
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards? If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.

11-06-2003, 10:41 PM	#13
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Kimmy Kim did me wrong! She gave me a peek of her in a fur and promised me she'd show the rest of her nude shots. Did she show me? No. I ended up with blue balls thanks to Little Ki, er uh, I mean, Kimmy Kim.. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-06-2003, 10:41 PM	#14
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me. With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

11-06-2003, 11:20 PM	#15
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	KimmyKim, sometimes it takes publicity to get things done, don't you think?

11-06-2003, 11:23 PM	#16
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

11-06-2003, 11:25 PM	#18
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,883	Has anyone received email from them stating that this is what they are doing? I have an idle account with them and I haven't received anything. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

11-06-2003, 11:50 PM	#21
assistant27 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 256	same way flyntdigital screwed me.

11-07-2003, 01:21 AM	#22
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	ouch, well thanks for the heads up on another program to avoid.

11-07-2003, 01:41 AM	#23
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

11-07-2003, 01:49 AM	#25
Pad elephants dont swat flies Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,262	you guys make this guy JoeE out to be a mobster he must be neato __________________

11-07-2003, 03:28 AM	#27
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	That's quite disturbing wow...... __________________ Spam link here

11-07-2003, 04:13 AM	#28
Mike-BP Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,270	Damn...they spammed me several times to use their program - very glad I did not do it Will NEVER use a dishonest program like this. __________________ Thanks to: ISPrime.com - best hosting company without downtime

11-07-2003, 05:36 AM	#31
Mr.Soze Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 627	Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well. Better send that traffic somewhere else...

11-07-2003, 05:58 AM	#32
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Bro atleast you got $350. I had a load of sites that had been sending traffic to Private Gold when it was run by TCG. Every month I would get $1k. Not much but it was just easy money from a load fo sites Ihad launched years ago. Since it has gone over to IceColdCash I have not recieved any money since they launched. IceColdCash is a joke.

11-07-2003, 06:08 AM	#33
gin Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 672	i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

11-07-2003, 06:25 AM	#35
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	JoeE is a legend in this biz. You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years. Everyone is entitled to some screwups. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

11-07-2003, 06:38 AM	#38
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11-07-2003, 08:30 AM	#44
Mr.Soze Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 627	Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well. Better send that traffic somewhere else...

11-07-2003, 09:56 AM	#45
CraigA Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philippines, AZ and FL Posts: 723	Bad business to be sure, but TCG pays webmasters weekly and on time since 1996 I couldn't resist. __________________ [email protected] Special Projects

11-07-2003, 10:52 AM	#47
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Is JoeE on GFY? Can we get their side of the story on this shit? __________________ icq:159548293

11-07-2003, 10:54 AM	#48
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	This reminds me back when they started turning per click money into pay per sale because they couldn't afford to pay you .10-.12 cents a hit anymore unless you converted better then x.