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  • evilshaun
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 295

    #1

    Beware - Icecoldcash

    Hi,

    Approx 3 months ago I started sending joins to Icecoldcash. I sent a fair amount of joins before stopping and waiting to get paid.

    It's now been 3 months, and i've received only ~$350 dollars out of the owed ~5k. After finding out instead of being paid $35-40 per join as originally signed up for, my account has secretly been switched to revshare and I was only paid a piddly $350. Can't even payout 5K???

    This is all after their sales people pushed me to send more and more, even when they were 2 months in arrears. I'm told it's due to webmaster fraud, but anyone that knows me knows that would never be the case. I was strung along for 3 months with lies and excuses from 3 different people there, actually maybe believing I would receive my money, it doesn't appear to be the case as of today. Maybe it all came from the top down, not sure, but I was bullshitted to majorly.

    This is not a unique case also, some of my friends have had the same problems.

    Moral of story:
    People, beware, when you're not paid up and people push you really hard for more joins, you should have an idea what's up. Even companies with people that have been in the industry long still seem to have no morals and would rather lie/cheat/steal and string you along as long as possible before admitting the truth.

    If anyone questions the validity of this, it can be proved with screenshots/logs/emails.
    BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
    ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
    ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
    GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600
  • MetaformX
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 6704

    #2
    Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

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    • wargames
      Kliris
      • May 2003
      • 10423

      #3
      Originally posted by MetaformX
      Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere
      i wouldnt be supprised
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      • detoxed
        vip member
        • Jan 2003
        • 17798

        #4
        He cant reply because he is dead in a gutter

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        • nxixnxo
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 238

          #5
          fyi... exact thing happned to me... owed me for about 75 signups... asked me to send more traffic... changed to me rev share without my consent or knowledge... called to ask them whats up... and was given the runaround...


          shame on you icecoldcash....
          im out suckas

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          • Veterans Day
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 8403

            #6
            Originally posted by MetaformX
            Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere
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            • VirtuMike
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 2483

              #7
              I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.
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              • nosey
                Talk Hard
                • Feb 2003
                • 14413

                #8
                uh oh

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                • integrated
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3826

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VirtuMike
                  I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.
                  believe it

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                  • hyper
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 5294

                    #10
                    Originally posted by VirtuMike
                    I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.
                    if the sites dont retain it does make a big difference.

                    that goes with any sponsor, im not singling anyone out

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                    • BradShaw
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7840

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VirtuMike
                      I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

                      There is.
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                      • Kimmykim
                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 16015

                        #12
                        How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards?

                        If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.

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                        • Pornwolf
                          Drunk and Unruly
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 22712

                          #13
                          Kimmy Kim did me wrong! She gave me a peek of her in a fur and promised me she'd show the rest of her nude shots. Did she show me? No. I ended up with blue balls thanks to Little Ki, er uh, I mean, Kimmy Kim..
                          I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                          • BradShaw
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 7840

                            #14
                            ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me.

                            With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference.
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                            • evilshaun
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 295

                              #15
                              KimmyKim, sometimes it takes publicity to get things done, don't you think?
                              BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                              ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                              ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                              GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                              • brand0n
                                been very busy
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 26983

                                #16
                                ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over
                                want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                • integrated
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 3826

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by brand0n
                                  ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over
                                  yes i bet they are going to go broke without your 1 sign per week

                                  dont hate me please?

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                                  • Furious_Male
                                    Doing the grind since 99
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 16884

                                    #18
                                    Has anyone received email from them stating that this is what they are doing? I have an idle account with them and I haven't received anything.
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                                    • MetaformX
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 6704

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BradShaw
                                      ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly
                                      okay, thats pretty messed up

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                                      • SYLVER
                                        Registered User
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 16

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                        How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards?

                                        If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.
                                        YET ANOTHER THREAD Kimmy Kim Sticks Her Nose In!
                                        Mind your own KK. This has nothing to do with you.
                                        Apparently this is a major problem and dead beat programs need to be exposed.

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                                        • assistant27
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 256

                                          #21
                                          same way flyntdigital screwed me.

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                                          • 4Pics
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 7952

                                            #22
                                            ouch, well thanks for the heads up on another program to avoid.

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                                            • BVF
                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 13975

                                              #23
                                              I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party

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                                              • gleem
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 5593

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me.

                                                With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference.
                                                Brad, for all the crap you take, I like your style, most guys in your position wouldn't be so frank about stuff like that on a board.

                                                I too was HOUNDED to send traffic, I sent 10k of traffic doing 1:500 to nastydollars, 1:700 to topbucks, I went 1:12,000 and dumped them. And they had the nerve to ask me to try again.

                                                Converting people to partner accounts is total crap, if you can't pay the $35 to $40 per signups, don't offer it!




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                                                • Pad
                                                  elephants dont swat flies
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 1262

                                                  #25
                                                  you guys make this guy JoeE out to be a mobster

                                                  he must be neato

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                                                  • Kevin2
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 1429

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BVF
                                                    I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party
                                                    I'm not suprised he can throw a hell of a party. That takes money and it seems it's the webmasters money.

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                                                    • Dildozer
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 7519

                                                      #27
                                                      That's quite disturbing

                                                      wow......
                                                      Spam link here

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                                                      • Mike-BP
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 1270

                                                        #28
                                                        Damn...they spammed me several times to use their program - very glad I did not do it

                                                        Will NEVER use a dishonest program like this.
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                                                        • SABAI
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 2880

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BVF
                                                          I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party
                                                          with the screwed webmasters money?

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                                                          • JamesK
                                                            hi
                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                            • 16731

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                            That's quite disturbing

                                                            wow......
                                                            yes
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                                                            • Mr.Soze
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 627

                                                              #31
                                                              Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

                                                              Better send that traffic somewhere else...

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                                                              • Krome
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 2851

                                                                #32
                                                                Bro atleast you got $350. I had a load of sites that had been sending traffic to Private Gold when it was run by TCG. Every month I would get $1k. Not much but it was just easy money from a load fo sites Ihad launched years ago. Since it has gone over to IceColdCash I have not recieved any money since they launched.

                                                                IceColdCash is a joke.

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                                                                • gin
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 672

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

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                                                                  • johnbosh
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 8965

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by gin
                                                                    i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them
                                                                    we join them ourselves:D

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                                                                    • KRL
                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 31429

                                                                      #35
                                                                      JoeE is a legend in this biz.

                                                                      You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

                                                                      Everyone is entitled to some screwups.
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                                                                      • BrentD
                                                                        ZothNET.com
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 1426

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MetaformX
                                                                        Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere
                                                                        What the fuck? If the man was ripped off he has the right to post his feelings, why the fuck you all over his ass?
                                                                        THIS FORUM SUCKS - RUDE ASS IDIOTS!!!

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                                                                        • Veterans Day
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 8403

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                          JoeE is a legend in this biz.

                                                                          You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

                                                                          Everyone is entitled to some screwups.
                                                                          Thats a classic statement that can be used in every scenario in the world. By golly you cant be serious? If so I feel for your thoughts. Screwup? Ya right
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                                                                          • JamesK
                                                                            hi
                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 16731

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I want IceCold to reply to this thread.
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                                                                            • KRL
                                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 31429

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Veterans Day


                                                                              Thats a classic statement that can be used in every scenario in the world. By golly you cant be serious? If so I feel for your thoughts. Screwup? Ya right
                                                                              People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.
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                                                                              • DarkJedi
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                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 28301

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by SABAI
                                                                                with the screwed webmasters money?

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                                                                                • basschick
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 2540

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  KRL, are you serious?!?!?!?!?

                                                                                  this program was changed AFTER checks were overdue, and even then people didn't get paid. and all this while paying for a gfy banner! until you can pay your webmasters, you have no business IN business. if you change people to revshare, you need to tell them - IMMEDIATELY. then it's their right to decide whether or not to promote you.

                                                                                  i'm glad to see this come to the board so more people don't end up having to spend money on search engine hits that they won't get paid for!

                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL


                                                                                  People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.
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                                                                                  • Veterans Day
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 8403

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by KRL


                                                                                    People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.
                                                                                    If hes such a legend I would figure he would have proper guidance from some of his connections, as hes a legend and most legends have connections Makes no sense, but I do see your point nonetheless
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                                                                                    • Kick Ass Chat
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 2057

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                      JoeE is a legend in this biz.

                                                                                      You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

                                                                                      Everyone is entitled to some screwups.
                                                                                      Legend ??...are you serious..hahaha If what people are saying here is true the guy's nothing but a 2 bit hustler, and scam artest!!
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                                                                                      • Mr.Soze
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                        • 627

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

                                                                                        Better send that traffic somewhere else...

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                                                                                        • CraigA
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 723

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Bad business to be sure, but TCG pays webmasters weekly and on time since 1996 I couldn't resist.

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                                                                                          • BradShaw
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                            • 7840

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by KRL


                                                                                            People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

                                                                                            I agree. I have respect for JoeE. He is one of the forfathers of this business, and along with JB built CEN/TCG. Always tried to stay out of the riff raff back and forth with he and JB. Just hope they both get it worked out.

                                                                                            I am just not a fan of turning accounts into partner accounts retroactive.
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                                                                                            • gornyhuy
                                                                                              Chafed.
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 18041

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Is JoeE on GFY? Can we get their side of the story on this shit?

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                                                                                              • 4Pics
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                • 7952

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                This reminds me back when they started turning per click money into pay per sale because they couldn't afford to pay you .10-.12 cents a hit anymore unless you converted better then x.

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                                                                                                • Phoenix
                                                                                                  BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                  • 35475

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by gin
                                                                                                  i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them
                                                                                                  Gin..you got a contact i can have to get in touch?
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                                                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 16015

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SYLVER


                                                                                                    YET ANOTHER THREAD Kimmy Kim Sticks Her Nose In!
                                                                                                    Mind your own KK. This has nothing to do with you.
                                                                                                    Apparently this is a major problem and dead beat programs need to be exposed.
                                                                                                    Oh stop your whining too. There's no love lost between Joe and I, and that's pretty well known, but if you aren't making money with someone then take your traffic somewhere else.

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