Beware - Icecoldcash
 

Hi,

Approx 3 months ago I started sending joins to Icecoldcash. I sent a fair amount of joins before stopping and waiting to get paid.

It's now been 3 months, and i've received only ~$350 dollars out of the owed ~5k. After finding out instead of being paid $35-40 per join as originally signed up for, my account has secretly been switched to revshare and I was only paid a piddly $350. Can't even payout 5K???

This is all after their sales people pushed me to send more and more, even when they were 2 months in arrears. I'm told it's due to webmaster fraud, but anyone that knows me knows that would never be the case. I was strung along for 3 months with lies and excuses from 3 different people there, actually maybe believing I would receive my money, it doesn't appear to be the case as of today. Maybe it all came from the top down, not sure, but I was bullshitted to majorly.

This is not a unique case also, some of my friends have had the same problems.

Moral of story:
People, beware, when you're not paid up and people push you really hard for more joins, you should have an idea what's up. Even companies with people that have been in the industry long still seem to have no morals and would rather lie/cheat/steal and string you along as long as possible before admitting the truth.

If anyone questions the validity of this, it can be proved with screenshots/logs/emails.

Don't talk bad about JoeE or you will end up dead in a gutter somewhere

i wouldnt be supprised :1orglaugh

He cant reply because he is dead in a gutter

fyi... exact thing happned to me... owed me for about 75 signups... asked me to send more traffic... changed to me rev share without my consent or knowledge... called to ask them whats up... and was given the runaround...


shame on you icecoldcash....

:sleep

I can't believe there's that big a difference between per signup and revshare.

uh oh :ak47:

believe it

if the sites dont retain it does make a big difference.

that goes with any sponsor, im not singling anyone out

There is.

How many times are we going to read this cut and paste on multiple boards?

If they did you wrong, fine. Tell it once and be done with the telling of it.

Kimmy Kim did me wrong! She gave me a peek of her in a fur and promised me she'd show the rest of her nude shots. Did she show me? No. I ended up with blue balls thanks to Little Ki, er uh, I mean, Kimmy Kim..

ICECOLDCASH is turning accounts into partner accounts retoractivly. We had a couple thousand dollar check end up being a few hundread. I love JoeE, but this simply is not the way to handle things. When questioned he explained there is no way to pay $35-40 a join without shaving, I disagree and invited him to dallas to examine some spreadsheets with me.

With that said, I have no doubt Joe will make good on the difference.

KimmyKim, sometimes it takes publicity to get things done, don't you think?

ahh yet another company im glad i skipped right over

yes i bet they are going to go broke without your 1 sign per week

dont hate me please?

Has anyone received email from them stating that this is what they are doing? I have an idle account with them and I haven't received anything.

okay, thats pretty messed up

YET ANOTHER THREAD Kimmy Kim Sticks Her Nose In!
Mind your own KK. This has nothing to do with you.
Apparently this is a major problem and dead beat programs need to be exposed.

same way flyntdigital screwed me.

ouch, well thanks for the heads up on another program to avoid.

I don't push icecoldcash but JoeE throws a hell of a party

Brad, for all the crap you take, I like your style, most guys in your position wouldn't be so frank about stuff like that on a board.

I too was HOUNDED to send traffic, I sent 10k of traffic doing 1:500 to nastydollars, 1:700 to topbucks, I went 1:12,000 and dumped them. And they had the nerve to ask me to try again.

Converting people to partner accounts is total crap, if you can't pay the $35 to $40 per signups, don't offer it!

you guys make this guy JoeE out to be a mobster

he must be neato :thumbsup

I'm not suprised he can throw a hell of a party. That takes money and it seems it's the webmasters money.

That's quite disturbing

wow......

Damn...they spammed me several times to use their program - very glad I did not do it :thumbsup

Will NEVER use a dishonest program like this.

with the screwed webmasters money?:Graucho

yes

Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

Better send that traffic somewhere else...

Bro atleast you got $350. I had a load of sites that had been sending traffic to Private Gold when it was run by TCG. Every month I would get $1k. Not much but it was just easy money from a load fo sites Ihad launched years ago. Since it has gone over to IceColdCash I have not recieved any money since they launched.

IceColdCash is a joke.

i've sent traffic to 5 of the "big companies" lately and all 5 either tried to fuck me out of my money (becuase im a mailer) saying "you got 50 complaints, blah blah" which is complete bull shit becuase they are 100% double opt in and i mail to my own host first which got 2 complaints tops.. or they converted 5 times worse then the sponsor i own.. to me they are all a complete joke and i wonder how the fuck most people promote them

we join them ourselves:D

JoeE is a legend in this biz.

You can knock him any which way but at the end of the day a lot of webmasters did make money with him over the years.

Everyone is entitled to some screwups.

What the fuck? If the man was ripped off he has the right to post his feelings, why the fuck you all over his ass?

Thats a classic statement that can be used in every scenario in the world. By golly you cant be serious? If so I feel for your thoughts. Screwup? Ya right :1orglaugh

I want IceCold to reply to this thread.

People make poor judgment calls. Often its not a case of intential fraud or deception, but rather just trying to keep things afloat. New businesses are a bitch sometimes.

:1orglaugh

KRL, are you serious?!?!?!?!?

this program was changed AFTER checks were overdue, and even then people didn't get paid. and all this while paying for a gfy banner! until you can pay your webmasters, you have no business IN business. if you change people to revshare, you need to tell them - IMMEDIATELY. then it's their right to decide whether or not to promote you.

i'm glad to see this come to the board so more people don't end up having to spend money on search engine hits that they won't get paid for!

If hes such a legend I would figure he would have proper guidance from some of his connections, as hes a legend and most legends have connections:helpme Makes no sense, but I do see your point nonetheless

Legend ??...are you serious..hahaha If what people are saying here is true the guy's nothing but a 2 bit hustler, and scam artest!!

Fuckers turned my account into revshare as well.

Better send that traffic somewhere else...

Bad business to be sure, but TCG pays webmasters weekly and on time since 1996:winkwink: I couldn't resist.

I agree. I have respect for JoeE. He is one of the forfathers of this business, and along with JB built CEN/TCG. Always tried to stay out of the riff raff back and forth with he and JB. Just hope they both get it worked out.

I am just not a fan of turning accounts into partner accounts retroactive.

Is JoeE on GFY? Can we get their side of the story on this shit?

This reminds me back when they started turning per click money into pay per sale because they couldn't afford to pay you .10-.12 cents a hit anymore unless you converted better then x.

Gin..you got a contact i can have to get in touch?

Oh stop your whining too. There's no love lost between Joe and I, and that's pretty well known, but if you aren't making money with someone then take your traffic somewhere else.