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TheFLY 10-25-2003 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by sharpie908


She looks like every single other carbon copy blonde bimbo. Congrats to her for conforming to the "I wanna be Pam Anderson" look so well.

Join the "average surfer" club... :321GFY

You're a fucking idiot.

sharpie908 10-25-2003 01:01 AM

She isnt going to fuck you.

JSA Matt 10-25-2003 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.
Get over it man, your design sucks just like your attitude.

I don't know what you mean when you say the design only appeals to "Voltron/Image comics generation" because i'm sure as hell not part of that generation and Hamlets design is by far, the best of the bunch.

Get over yourself, asswipe. :321GFY

Mutt 10-25-2003 01:04 AM

http://www.wantongirls.com/rather.jpg

TheViper 10-25-2003 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
http://www.wantongirls.com/rather.jpg
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

bhutocracy 10-25-2003 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

IF my design is so bad -- where's the criticism? So far all I've got was that it looks "flat" -- well that's a fucking compliment considering I used all 6 elements of depth including atmospheric distance and still managed Hoffman flatness through my shape integration... Guess what, art is flat, and so is your screen... and making a 3D image look flat creates a dynamic interplay that is really pleasing to look at...

It looks flat because of the flat pastel colours you've used.
The primary colour scheme lacks the excitement fucking a playboy model on a yacht should convey. Even the loafer and pastel wearing golfers it's targetted at can use a little splash of colour when pussy is involved and just because your screen is flat doesn't mean the imagery on it has to be.

The image of neriah you've used isn't that great compared to the others.

the position of the bently is frustrating, the visual weight of the page is lopsided and it's showing enough to distract from the rest of the design, but not enough of itself to be of gratification.
Given the \/\ line used to balance and direct the eye goes as much to the bentley as it does to the start button this is innapropriate. And is shown by the size, contrast and bolding that the "start" area has had to endure to help compensate it. Although the effort to do so is well noted.

The bentley bleeds to the bottom of the page without as much care as it needed - just truncated in the middle of a black front bumper - though effort has been made to line the highlights from the top of the bumper up with the bottom of the screen it's out of proportion with the black space left by the same element on the left and doesn't give the proper form of the car.

Given that the focal point of the page is neriah's face the fact that the word neriah is almost body colour and flat could almost be forgiven. Almost.

The playboy logo SHOULD have been used. Never overestimate the surfer. Without it she could just be eyecandy for a rich boy's toy's expo.

I am in two minds of the "bling" aspect. It's not contemporary and fairly muted which can either be good or bad depending on the tastes of the surfers.

Many problems with this design could be resolved by increasing the canvas area to that of the other designs and focussing a lot more on imagery of neriah, so that the playboy toys are still integrated, but the surfer doesn't feel like he's busting a nut over a yacht instead of a girl implied on a yacht.
It's hard trying to do as much with less. Also as noted sales copy wouldn't go astray either.

The design isn't technically bad at all, but it also lacks the finishing and refinement that could have been used instead of just relying on the imagery of rich things to convey it.

Theo 10-25-2003 02:16 AM

TheFly, 5 whole pages now you are trying to convince 20 webmasters your design is the best. You asked again why is not the best and I already told you:

Your design sells everything else than Neriah.

SomeCreep 10-25-2003 02:20 AM

they're all winners :thumbsup

Digipimp 10-25-2003 02:30 AM

What about mine, since I was a late entry and I don't normally design for others? Does mine deserve to be in there, It's a quick one hour workup of what could be but it needs refined which would be done if Neriah likes it. I'm not in the poll so I can't get votes.

:glugglug

avion 10-25-2003 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
they're all winners :thumbsup
excluding thefly's one :)

Theo 10-25-2003 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by avion


excluding thefly's one :)

:)

avion 10-25-2003 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
What about mine, since I was a late entry and I don't normally design for others? Does mine deserve to be in there, It's a quick one hour workup of what could be but it needs refined which would be done if Neriah likes it. I'm not in the poll so I can't get votes.

:glugglug

yours is cool! write Neriah to include it :)
or she could start another poll amongst her site members - it will give her more valuable oppinions...

kush2 10-25-2003 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.
Your design will not outsell shit.

Good luck with your finger painting, b/c you obviously suck at porn.

sharpie908 10-25-2003 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by kush2


Your design will not outsell shit.

Good luck with your finger painting, b/c you obviously suck at porn.

http://www.cockflicks.com/suck.jpg

Digipimp 10-25-2003 04:04 AM

Does this look better with a gaussian blur on the background compared to the other one?

http://www.platinumpimpin.com/neriah1.jpg

Maru 10-25-2003 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY



I already know the general public doesn't appreciate most of my art -- because they're INGORANT


Yea.

Madcapa 10-25-2003 06:29 AM

"Honestly I think the Kadzuki design is pretty good but really there is no content -- he took two pics and grayscaled them with some lines to divide them and a cheesy filter for some "style" wow how exciting... I'm so turned on by this design...

As for Madcappa -- please... Looks like this guy just discovered Photoshop... It's obvious you have no clue about design -- period. Download all the fonts you want -- you still have no taste and no education."

i was gonna hold..i really wasn't gonna say anything...i STILL don't want to stoop to your level FLY, but fuck...

first off FLY - correct spelling.
it's Katsuki (who is female) and Madcapa (just one p)

second - it really surprises me how intense you're getting over this whole deal - you yourself admitted that you haven't produced graphic design since 1995 so how do you expect your meager digital skills to match up to those who have been producing digital design day in day out for the last 4-5 years?. just chill the fuck out.

nobody here is claiming to be anything they aren't. being a comp and not a paid job, i highly doubt anyone spent over 45 minutes on the design anyways.
i'm not gonna pick apart your design, there's no need - it speaks for itself. granted, you're entitled to your opinion on everyone elses submissions and i respect that, but remember - it's just your opinion.

you may be a damn good webmaster, and a top notch painter/artist but get your hand off your dick, keep your kindergarten insults to yourself and come back down to earth - bottom line is, you're an egotistical artschool ass who can't produce quality digital design - otherwise YOU would have the votes.

Mutt 10-25-2003 07:38 AM

http://www.wantongirls.com/newsalert.gif

LadyMischief 10-25-2003 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.
Intelligent design? That doesn't sell shit all. And no offense, but if your designs are so shit hot, how come you aren't rich by now? :P

Reak 10-25-2003 07:42 AM

so fucking close to 300 !

broke 10-25-2003 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
http://www.wantongirls.com/newsalert.gif

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

avion 10-25-2003 08:01 AM

http://www.byotcash.com/reny/aaa/neriah/neriaht21.jpg


need more oppinions - do you think this one would sell ? does it look sexy? should I change the 'playboy playmate' to neriah's name ?

come guys...hot or not ? :)

Avion

pantymaniac 10-25-2003 08:47 AM

it took me 40 min to read all posts :)

this thread is faboulous :)

KRL 10-25-2003 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by pantymaniac
it took me 40 min to read all posts :)

this thread is faboulous :)

Life is good.

:1orglaugh

Chris E 10-25-2003 09:03 AM

Tried to read all of it but damn this is one long thread.

SweetDreams 10-25-2003 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by avion
http://www.byotcash.com/reny/aaa/neriah/neriaht21.jpg


need more oppinions - do you think this one would sell ? does it look sexy? should I change the 'playboy playmate' to neriah's name ?

come guys...hot or not ? :)

Avion

Yeah... maybe change that is a nice idea... but as I have already told you, this design is just perfect and easy to make the tours based on it...
Well... in my opinion, you are the WINNER!!!!

adultwebware 10-25-2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg

! :thumbsup :thumbsup

avion 10-25-2003 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Chris E
Tried to read all of it but damn this is one long thread.
could have missed thefly posts :)


Avion

digifan 10-25-2003 01:37 PM

Avion,

your design rocks, sexy as hell.. just what makes the surfers pulling out the plastic.

Nice job.

:thumbsup

avion 10-25-2003 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by digifan
Avion,

your design rocks, sexy as hell.. just what makes the surfers pulling out the plastic.

Nice job.

:thumbsup


why dont I see your vote then :)

thanks though!

teomaxxx 10-25-2003 02:29 PM

hamlet rocks, to drink or not to drink. or said he it in other words?

avion 10-25-2003 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by SweetDreams


Quote:

Originally posted by avion
http://www.byotcash.com/reny/aaa/neriah/neriaht21.jpg


need more oppinions - do you think this one would sell ? does it look sexy? should I change the 'playboy playmate' to neriah's name ?

come guys...hot or not ? :)

Avion

Yeah... maybe change that is a nice idea... but as I have already told you, this design is just perfect and easy to make the tours based on it...
Well... in my opinion, you are the WINNER!!!!


hey, thanks man! I appreciate it! I really tried to make it look more sexy, more appealing...so it can bring more sales...After all that is what this design is for :)

Neriah Davis 10-25-2003 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by avion
http://www.byotcash.com/reny/aaa/neriah/neriaht21.jpg


need more oppinions - do you think this one would sell ? does it look sexy? should I change the 'playboy playmate' to neriah's name ?

come guys...hot or not ? :)

Avion

Hot Avion!
I really like it. I have still not made my decision yet. They are all fantastic. I love them ALL!
Digipimp...awesome job! I live it...it is different than the others, but that may be working in your favor. I think I will add you to the poll.

It looks like Hamlet's is the most popular, but my decision will not be made Monday eve. I am out of town...on dial-up, but I just read this whole thread....highly entertaining! The arguments are interesting and make me think. It's good that people have differences of opinion. How boring would this world be if we all liked the same thing????

I appreciate all of your time and submissions. I want to get my new designer asap, so my tour can convert like mad.

Have an awesome weekend....and KEEP VOTING!!

TheFLY 10-25-2003 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
[B]The primary colour scheme lacks the excitement fucking a playboy model on a yacht should convey.
Who said anything about fucking her?

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Even the loafer and pastel wearing golfers it's targetted at can use a little splash of colour when pussy is involved and just because your screen is flat doesn't mean the imagery on it has to be.
HAAAHAHAHAHAHA

digifan 10-25-2003 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by avion



why dont I see your vote then :)

thanks though!

I was voting when the poll was posted and it was not easy :)

TheFLY 10-25-2003 05:30 PM

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The image of neriah you've used isn't that great compared to the others.
And your reason is?

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the position of the bently is frustrating, the visual weight of the page is lopsided and it's showing enough to distract from the rest of the design, but not enough of itself to be of gratification.
Frustrated how? So this provokes you? If you are frustrated, that might be a good thing to make sales.

Maybe you don't like my design because it's just that good -- you feel inferior to all my bling bling abilities. :pimp

How is the weight lopsided? Because the sky is empty? You're not taking into consideration the surrounding HTML/text either... if you took the horizon lines into the HTML all the way to the edge and did the whole background of the screen the same colors the balance would be pretty badass I think...

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Given the \/\ line used to balance and direct the eye goes as much to the bentley as it does to the start button this is innapropriate.
I think most people read from left to right... Why is that inappropriate to see the "ENTER" link as the last thing in the visual flow?

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And is shown by the size, contrast and bolding that the "start" area has had to endure to help compensate it. Although the effort to do so is well noted.
Yeah the black/white pulls you along there, among other things...

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The bentley bleeds to the bottom of the page without as much care as it needed - just truncated in the middle of a black front bumper - though effort has been made to line the highlights from the top of the bumper up with the bottom of the screen it's out of proportion with the black space left by the same element on the left and doesn't give the proper form of the car.
I admit the car there is pretty distracting, but I was very careful how I put it there -- I even distorted the car a little so that I could hit the horizon the way I wanted to and still hit the bottom edge without showing the messy details like the license plate, etc... In reality, I think we are talking about some pretty edgy stuff... and I don't take this design THAT seriously to be honest -- although this is all very fun -- BUT that said, since this is a collage -- the car really makes you aware that it is a collage, and even the perspective of the laptop of off and the slight wierdness of scale and position I was hoping would throw off the viewer... I think it is a good idea to take a person's notion of reality -- and fuck with it A LITTLE BIT -- but not too much -- so they wonder why I fucked with them just THIS MUCH and not a WHOLE BUNCH... Cezanne does this with his lines -- if you notice he will have an object in front of a straight line but the line is not really straight -- but it's just OFF a little bit, and the intent is clear -- it's just enough to fuck with your head... and that's what I think intelligent design does -- it throws you off balance a little bit so you have to scratch your chin a little bit and say, "Hmmm..." Hence my "mental institution" style of GFY posting...

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The playboy logo SHOULD have been used. Never overestimate the surfer. Without it she could just be eyecandy for a rich boy's toy's expo.
Maybe, but I'm pretty sure I heard Lensman say in a D-Money interview about Playboy was real picky about this... I could be wrong though... Anyway, I suppose I'm learning that the designer in many cases in this biz is also responsible for the wording of marketing text -- which is pretty sad I think... but that's always good to know -- I'm learning... The whole Playboy thing -- that's for Neriah to figure out with Playboy... and I'm sure she is thinking about her strategy with Playboy as the marketplace changes... if she really wants to be a Playmate, why not just put some ears on her damn head... Hehe... anyway you could look at it from different angles -- maybe guys will think -- "Why join this site when I could join Playboy.com and get the same pics + all the other Playmates?" If I was her I think I would present the Playboy issue as receiving an award -- show the date -- and show is more as an accolade and less as being under somebody's umbrella of power... because I'm sure there is that stigma to some extent... clinging on too hard to the Playboy logo could be seen as weakness, especially considering that Playboy is nothing without these models and the fact that she is a name to remember gives her some well-deserved superiority... and no I'm not kissing ass -- because I rarely have nice things to say about models... all you have to do is look at her pics...

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I am in two minds of the "bling" aspect. It's not contemporary and fairly muted which can either be good or bad depending on the tastes of the surfers.
Me too... I suppose it comes down to trying it to see if it will convert...

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Many problems with this design could be resolved by increasing the canvas area to that of the other designs and focussing a lot more on imagery of neriah, so that the playboy toys are still integrated, but the surfer doesn't feel like he's busting a nut over a yacht instead of a girl implied on a yacht.
I designed it at a much higher resolution so I could render it at any size... Generally for the first page of a tour I don't think you need a HUGE image -- and like I said I would incorporate the design into the HTML layout... I can seriously see your point, and I suggested that to Neriah when I first started talking to her about this before the design contest -- but I got carried away with the horizontal theme since that's how I do many of my drawings and paintings -- so that's sortof my trademark style... so yeah I'm guilty of the emphasis on the horizon and the long format with the wierd left-to-right composition... It's unique to me and interesting and that's why I like it.

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The design isn't technically bad at all, but it also lacks the finishing and refinement that could have been used instead of just relying on the imagery of rich things to convey it. [/B]
I agree to some extent. I'm not really taking advantage of the "digital" aspect of the image -- I'm not using filters or fancy fonts... because at least in my circle -- those things are seen as tacky and unoriginal... but looking at the reaction that Hamlet got with with his shiny blue emboss-like effect -- people go for shit that shines -- and that's exactly why comic books and cartoons go WAY overboard on shiny swords and chrome robots... I suppose that's just part of popular culture now and I need to get with the times -- just go with it instead of trying to fight it...

Anyway, I've been acting like an ass in this thread but it's all in good fun -- and I'm glad this thread has been so popular and I'm sure Neriah will get lots of webmasters interested in her product because of this thread... My tactics are very controversial but you can all go fuck yourselfs...

I appreciate these comments -- especially from very talented graphic designers... I really don't take this contest that seriously -- and I think anyone with a little wit can see that just be reading my posts with a grain of salt...

:321GFY

TheFLY 10-25-2003 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by avion


could have missed thefly posts :)


Avion

Thank you.

TheFLY 10-25-2003 05:39 PM

My 4% has all the bling baby.

harvey 10-25-2003 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

The playboy logo SHOULD have been used. Never overestimate the surfer. Without it she could just be eyecandy for a rich boy's toy's expo.

yes. if you're looking for trouble and you have a really big wallet :winkwink: As somebody said, maybe you can use the words "playboy" and "playmate" because she earned that title and goes with her, it 's part of her identity and cannot be denied. Now, fooling with logos, which she's no right to use unless she wants to spends loads of money in courts to MAYBE try to prove her right to use them, is simply playing with fire. That's why I decided to use only the words and a subtle bunny ears, no mention to isotypes or logotypes whatsoever, no legal problems at all. :)

harvey 10-25-2003 08:14 PM

@ The Fly

that sofide post was me, I couldn't remember my pass as I was on another PC and I made another temp nickname. My site was Sex-o-pedia, just in case :winkwink: and it was big when most of GFY users were at school

now, if you want me to defend my design (you know, you weren't the only one attending school, only that I attended Advertisement & Marketing Media) here you go:

Tecnically, my design is a diptic, just made to fit 800x600 rez (then the design shows nothing but her face and the enter link) and if you have higher rez or wanna see more (this means that it requires the viewer interactivity), then you see her beautiful chest, some "almost subliminal" words and a graphical and psychological invitation to go up to the word ENTER. There are only 4 elements: her name, herself, the enter link and this graphic trick to make your eyes go up. And this is not a tour, just a splash page, as requested. I really could say what is wrong with your design from marketing and psychology, because remember that there are differences between "art" and "commercial art", but I prefer to focus on my stuff and not enter a technical debate, because there's no point and it's very boring to the public :winkwink:

btw, I've seen your pictures and I like them a lot, I know you're an artist, cheers to you :drinkup

and about the "eighties" thing... even when you're wrong, it wouldn't be bad, in any case it would be "trendy" and "up with the times" since there's a revival of eighties in design, fashion, music, and art in general, leave the cave for 5 minutes, you bear(d) boy :winkwink:


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