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TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by voodooman
MADCAPA: Too many rectangles -- boring layout. What does "NS" stand for? All I can think of is the NAS rapper logo. <img src="http://www.mcm.net/cm/image/artistes/pochettecd/nas_stillmatic.jpg"> Wow you discovered layers in photoshop too... :1orglaugh



NS???

Dude, thats a D for Davis.
Damn, In not even a designer and I could see that.


:winkwink:

Are you on crack? Look again -- unless this is a LOWERCASE "D" it looks more like an "S"... I'm telling you NAS posters were ALL over the place last I visited NYC and this grafitti/thug-style text is nearly identical to it :1orglaugh

Why would this model want graphics that match a popular rapper's trademark logo? HAAAAAAAAAAA

avion 10-24-2003 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff

The whole Playboy 'thing' is about fantasy women. Playboy isn't in-your-face porn like Bangbus for example. Neriah's photographs (at least the ones used in these designs, are very much in that mold and if that is what you are selling, it would be crazy to pitch away from your natural audience to an audience that is looking for something else.


second that - it is all about fantasy and sexy...

but hey man you didnt comment our design :( what do we need to improve/change?

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by GoNe
Havent read any of the posts here except the first 2 :Graucho
So dont know if the contest is over or not but my vote
goes to Hamlet :thumbsup

Peace

Also Neriah when you gonna hit me up? :Graucho

You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


creative and elegant is boring.

Get some pics taken with a big fat cock somewhere in the vicinity of your mouth, and slap that on the front page...

that'll get people in the mood to spend some cash on ya.

especially when you consider that I found all the 'elegant' pics you're probably gonna have in the members area less than 2 seconds... for free.

Apparently you have NO clue about the babe niche whatsoever.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

I think you're the one busy picking everything apart.. And actually I can see how that design has elementsof the other, but it's a far cry from being "stolen", unless I missed something.

avion 10-24-2003 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
In light of the circumstances I say we start a new poll since we have a stolen design and mine needs to be included now!

:thumbsup

:) Neriah should really post this poll to her current site members...Let them decide...

Avion

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
In light of the circumstances I say we start a new poll since we have a stolen design and mine needs to be included now!

:thumbsup

:1orglaugh Yeah hilarious... that guy's artistic integrity is down the toilet.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

Pick mine apart flizzy, I know mine sucks and I just slapped it together in a rush last night in just over and hour.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


I think you're the one busy picking everything apart.. And actually I can see how that design has elementsof the other, but it's a far cry from being "stolen", unless I missed something.

It's the same design... without the stolen sunflowers borders, what is left? His cool Voltron inspired logo? :1orglaugh That kid should go back to watching catroons...

<img src="http://www.ghg.net/wduncan/voltron/voltitle.jpg">

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


Pick mine apart flizzy, I know mine sucks and I just slapped it together in a rush last night in just over and hour.

Study Hans Hoffman's teachings -- he's the godfather of modern art...

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief



In your mind dear :P Art is only a SMALL part of design.. MARKETING is more important than art :P

Tell that to the guy that shoots Neriah's pics. Ask HIM what design he likes the best -- I already know the answer. The guy has skill, training and taste... Let's see your tour Lady Mischief? :1orglaugh

ideasign 10-24-2003 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Neriah must be allergic to apples or something cuz this is a beautiful design.

http://www.ideasign.ru/neriah.jpg


I think she hates apples, and i think not many people want to work with russians, it is true, because, we are ugly and bad and we all are gangsters! :) hehe

Of course in young years Neriah hear all this stupid shit :)

Danil,
www.ideasign.ru

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief



In your mind dear :P Art is only a SMALL part of design.. MARKETING is more important than art :P

And don't ever call me "dear" again when suggesting that you know more about art than I do.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by ideasign



I think she hates apples, and i think not many people want to work with russians, it is true, because, we are ugly and bad and we all are gangsters! :) hehe

Of course in young years Neriah hear all this stupid shit :)

Danil,
www.ideasign.ru

This was a great idea because of the sensory appeal, but the image looks contrived -- if she really wanted to pose on fruit for her own site, on the front page -- she would have done a pose especially for that purpose so she didn't look like she was falling off the cherry...

natas 10-24-2003 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg
damn! that's funny :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Why do you have to pick everyone's apart just because you didn't get picked, you brat :P Just be happy for whoever wins :P

Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Study Hans Hoffman's teachings -- he's the godfather of modern art...

Not sure that's what I asked you at all?

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

Yes, but this isn't art.. This is MARKETING. NOBODY is going to sell a site with art. They WILL sell a site with good layouts, appealing text, etc etc.. It's just like a newspaper ad, not a painting hanging in a museum, my dear.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


It's the same design... without the stolen sunflowers borders, what is left? His cool Voltron inspired logo? :1orglaugh That kid should go back to watching catroons...

<img src="http://www.ghg.net/wduncan/voltron/voltitle.jpg">

I think it's hilarious you can turn Hamlet's logo upsidedown and it looks just like the Voltron sword! :1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


And don't ever call me "dear" again when suggesting that you know more about art than I do.

I NEVER suggested I know more about art. I *DO* however know more about marketing, and art is only a small part of that :P

HarlotCash Dyker 10-24-2003 08:48 AM

Katsuki gets my vote - Just - They are all good designs.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yes, but this isn't art.. This is MARKETING. NOBODY is going to sell a site with art. They WILL sell a site with good layouts, appealing text, etc etc.. It's just like a newspaper ad, not a painting hanging in a museum, my dear.

Hello? What are these guys paying for?

The photography!!! This is not Bangbus or a hardcore site.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Tell that to the guy that shoots Neriah's pics. Ask HIM what design he likes the best -- I already know the answer. The guy has skill, training and taste... Let's see your tour Lady Mischief? :1orglaugh

Lol my tour for what? My specialty is design, TO SELL THINGS. Not design just for something pretty to look at.. I've been EXTREMELY successful at SALES, and THAT is what we're here for isn't it? Not an art review.. For your information I built most of Neriah's hosted galleries, and they do quite well.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Hello? What are these guys paying for?

The photography!!! This is not Bangbus or a hardcore site.

Yes, but photography needs to be marketed too.. trust me, I'm a photographer, internationally published in the mainstream world. I had to market my stuff to get that far, you know. :P

Sharky 10-24-2003 08:54 AM

It's a tie between MADCAPA & Hamlet!

If either of these guys need a design job, Hit me up.. you did great work

ideasign 10-24-2003 08:54 AM

http://www.ideasign.ru/neriah.gif

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


I NEVER suggested I know more about art. I *DO* however know more about marketing, and art is only a small part of that :P

I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

So a design like mine basically then. Since I had to rush and do it in just over an hour, a little more work on it and it would be all good!

slackologist 10-24-2003 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

I agree, and you suck! i'm sure i saw something like your design back in the 80's except it was much higher quality. But that's OK.. It's hard not being the best or the most popular, i'm sure you'll get used to it, there there.

:1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

Ok. Well I guess sites like Blue Fantasies must really suck and not make ANY sales then, eh? :P

TheFLY 10-24-2003 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yes, but photography needs to be marketed too.. trust me, I'm a photographer, internationally published in the mainstream world. I had to market my stuff to get that far, you know. :P

So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...

Mutt 10-24-2003 09:03 AM

Sharky Hamlet is very good, works pretty much on schedule and has good Flash skills. Hamlet u should talk to Sharky though Hamlet does pretty good on his own but sometimes a steady gig is better than running your own shop.

Nice rendering of a Bentley theFly, what software did you use to create it?

Digipimp 10-24-2003 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...

Way more than mine? You won't even comment on mine. Come on you ripped everyone else, now tell me why my 1 hour design sucks, because I don't even think my work is that good.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...

I never said your image lacked marketing, I simply said you're very busy tearing apart other people's ARTWORK when the idea here is to MARKET NERIAH.. correct? Why not take a look at some of the most successful sites in the babe niche and find out what makes them sell.. Then come back and yell at me all youlike :P

TheFLY 10-24-2003 09:07 AM

The fact is that none of these designers have ever marketed to this niche -- and I have for years... :1orglaugh

Her top affiliates are or were the same top affiliates for Oliver Klozov... just like I was when I sent traffic to Oliver! Hahaha

Digipimp 10-24-2003 09:13 AM

Still avoiding my questions, I thought you of all people would step up Fly. For the record of the group, I'm the only one that's not a designer, I know how to design, I do so for myself alone otherwise I do many other things but design is not really one of them.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Sharky Hamlet is very good, works pretty much on schedule and has good Flash skills. Hamlet u should talk to Sharky though Hamlet does pretty good on his own but sometimes a steady gig is better than running your own shop.

Nice rendering of a Bentley theFly, what software did you use to create it?

It's not 3D, it's a real photo.

brizzad 10-24-2003 09:13 AM

let me design you an orgasm

Mutt 10-24-2003 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by ideasign
http://www.ideasign.ru/neriah.gif

I doubt Neriah left you out because you're Russian. i'd hire you if i had a site that needed some elegance and style.

i was talking to another designer about your design Danil, he thought the apple was a heavily photoshopped photograph. Is it?

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The fact is that none of these designers have ever marketed to this niche -- and I have for years... :1orglaugh

Her top affiliates are or were the same top affiliates for Oliver Klozov... just like I was when I sent traffic to Oliver! Hahaha

None eh? *wink*


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