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Digipimp 10-24-2003 11:31 AM

200 and FLY still can't touch my shit.

Time to start a new poll so that I can included.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
I think the color of the sky is a little dull. It looks overcast and hazy, not a cheerful thing to see on a day out on the yacht. It looks like it's about to rain, and that would spoil a lovely day on the water.


I appreciate your comments, but if you can't appreciate the beauty of an overcast day -- you got problems... My guess is that the photographer took this pic at this time of day with this weather for artistic reasons -- I ran with the feel of the pic and kept that feel consistenet with the the laptop, the boat, text, floor, etc...

If you've been following Sony.com's website and products (the current leader in the design of popular high-technology) and the Powerbook you'll see they have been using similar "overcast" colors -- it goes with the latest trends so Neriah's site is up-to-date.


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The pale blue stroke you used around the text was okay for the white text, but it makes the word Neriah look blurry, almost dirty. For a design that seems meant to capture the interest of wealthy, sophisticated gentlemen, I would expect crisp, clean text, not a gaussian nightmare. The goldenrod and the light blue also neither compliment each other nor contrast in a way that is appealing.
I'm glad you noticed this... In fact there's no gaussian blur, there's no blur at all. That's a stroke on the text selection at a very high resolution brought down to 800x600. The "blur" effect is in fact intentional -- I used complimentary color "blue" to play/vibrate off the color of her flesh and sky -- with an opacity to softly integrate with shapes of the text with the shapes of her body if you noticed the alignments that I made -- a harsh edge would be too disruptive with her body -- believe me I tried it.

It's funny you say it's blurry when most comments so far has been that my design is crisp. In reality the outline of the "NERIAH" text is about 1 pixel at this reslution -- so I'll take it as acompliment that I achieved this "blur" effect :)

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Overall the design is appropriate. I see where you were going. But it lacks interest and visual stimulation and it doesn't seem to be as well thought out as you claim it to be.

:2 cents:
Maybe when you grow up your definition of stimulation will change. :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 11:38 AM

<img src="http://www.neriah.com/customer_extranet/neriah/images/boards/contest/Fly.jpg">


Look at how the "N" in Neriah in my design plays off the whole fucking sky, the whole fucking horizon, AND her leg... I pull 50% of the entire compositional space BAM like a damn black whole into the first letter of her first name -- the most important letter...

Now THAT is fucking art.

MetaMan 10-24-2003 11:40 AM

The FLy's sucks so bad :1orglaugh

anyone who voted for it needs to be slapped.

Adultnet 10-24-2003 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


How old are you? Do you watch cartoons?

:1orglaugh what does it have to do with cartoons mate can you explain ? :feels-hot

To get to the level of the layout there you will need 2-3 years extra.

tootie 10-24-2003 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Maybe when you grow up your definition of stimulation will change. :1orglaugh

My definition os stimulation doesn't need to change. You have no clue what you're talking about. You want to ask any of my former clients how well MY designs stimulate? You want to ask a few people that promote my tours how well they convert? I KNOW stimulation. If my definition of stimulation changed then I'd be screwing over alot of people. :)

Your design is dull, bland and boring. I think you spent 20 minutes on it. If you spent more time than that, then you obviously ripped yourself off.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 12:18 PM

Ok so I'm getting messages private telling me that Neriah should choose the "unartistic" designs because she needs to sell to the lowest common denominator... she needs to sell to the idiots -- because that's who's buying the memberships...

Who wants to buy brand name designer clothes, because "gee it's all about the label anyway and designer clothes aren't really better..." You people are pathetic! Don't you ever pay more for quality? Can't you appreciate originality or craft or quality materials/construction?

You're the problem with this society. Keep shopping at Walmart and GAP with the rest of the scum of the earth -- go build your scummy, predictable tours...

TheFLY 10-24-2003 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Adultnet


:1orglaugh what does it have to do with cartoons mate can you explain ? :feels-hot

To get to the level of the layout there you will need 2-3 years extra.

His whole design is comic book/cartoon inspired. Pick up any old Image comic at the comic store and you will see where he gets his design ideas from -- and as I demonstrated he stole his logo design from Voltron, an old cartoon.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Adultnet


:1orglaugh what does it have to do with cartoons mate can you explain ? :feels-hot

To get to the level of the layout there you will need 2-3 years extra.

2-3 years on crack forgetting everything I know about design.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie


My definition os stimulation doesn't need to change. You have no clue what you're talking about. You want to ask any of my former clients how well MY designs stimulate? You want to ask a few people that promote my tours how well they convert? I KNOW stimulation. If my definition of stimulation changed then I'd be screwing over alot of people. :)

Your design is dull, bland and boring. I think you spent 20 minutes on it. If you spent more time than that, then you obviously ripped yourself off.

Don't sing it, bring it... Let's see your designs bitch... :1orglaugh I've been doing art professionally for 12+ years now.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
<img src="http://www.neriah.com/customer_extranet/neriah/images/boards/contest/Fly.jpg">


Look at how the "N" in Neriah in my design plays off the whole fucking sky, the whole fucking horizon, AND her leg... I pull 50% of the entire compositional space BAM like a damn black whole into the first letter of her first name -- the most important letter...

Now THAT is fucking art.

If you have to spend that long justifying why your design rules to everyone else, maybe it's time to let people think for themselves, because no matter WHAT you say, they are going to ignore you and make up their own minds anyways. Your lessons are not going to change people's minds.

tootie 10-24-2003 12:31 PM

Since you used the quote feature improperly I'll have to copy and paste this:

"I'm glad you noticed this... In fact there's no gaussian blur, there's no blur at all."

I didn't say there was a gaussian blur. I called it a gaussian nightmare. Which is what it looks like where the text meets the stroke and the stroke meets the rest of the image.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 12:31 PM

I am so going to fucking kick your ass motherfucker :1orglaugh

Anyway what's your ICQ again I forgot it?

tootie 10-24-2003 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Don't sing it, bring it... Let's see your designs bitch... :1orglaugh I've been doing art professionally for 12+ years now.

Ohh, name calling now. Did you pick that up from South Park?

My designs speak for themselves through conversions. Care to share some of your ratios?

tootie 10-24-2003 12:34 PM

I'll bet Neriah is wishing she'd never picked TheFLY as a finalist, now. Hehe. Then again, scandal can be good promo. :thumbsup

I still don't pity you, Neriah. Tough choices! :)

broke 10-24-2003 12:35 PM

So the claws came out....

what a surprise.

:Graucho

sofide 10-24-2003 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The fact is that none of these designers have ever marketed to this niche -- and I have for years... :1orglaugh

Her top affiliates are or were the same top affiliates for Oliver Klozov... just like I was when I sent traffic to Oliver! Hahaha

Are you sure? Because it happens I had one of the biggest porn stars/glamour babes sites, not sure but quite possitive som etime before you, and if you're the webmaster of thefly.net then we had some big trades. But then again, what do I know? :Graucho

broke 10-24-2003 12:41 PM

All for $200...

You should be ashamed of yourself Pete. You've nearly achieved Amp status.

tootie 10-24-2003 12:45 PM

I'm done wasting my time here. I have kids to spend time with and errands to run.

I don't mean to hassle you, TheFLY, but you've been really rude and obnoxious and your design is NOT all you seem to think it is. There are some KILLER designs here and it's a real shame that only one can win. It looks like alot of you spent alot of time on this :)

TheFLY 10-24-2003 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


If you have to spend that long justifying why your design rules to everyone else, maybe it's time to let people think for themselves, because no matter WHAT you say, they are going to ignore you and make up their own minds anyways. Your lessons are not going to change people's minds.

It WILL make a difference. These are techniques that ALL the great masters have used for THOUSANDS of years... Just because you don't NOTICE it doesn't mean that it's not IMPORTANT... I'm not pulling this out of my ass -- you people are just clueless -- like I said -- probably you got a hacked copy of Photoshop off Yahoo and went through some tutorials at the bookstore :1orglaugh

If you're going to be a graphic designer -- at least learn the fundamentals of art...

Why bother to even learn anything -- let's just be stupid and uneducated...

TheFLY 10-24-2003 01:38 PM

My design is so boring and timid -- that's why I'm bitchslapping all of you for being so stupid... :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
So the claws came out....

what a surprise.

:Graucho

I love it! Real art criticism...

TheFLY 10-24-2003 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by sofide


Are you sure? Because it happens I had one of the biggest porn stars/glamour babes sites, not sure but quite possitive som etime before you, and if you're the webmaster of thefly.net then we had some big trades. But then again, what do I know? :Graucho

So where's your design?

brothenberg 10-24-2003 01:41 PM

Hamlet still in the lead!

TheFLY 10-24-2003 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
All for $200...

You should be ashamed of yourself Pete. You've nearly achieved Amp status.

Haaa... I really don't care if I win -- to be honest I'm not even sure I would design Neriah's tour even if she asked me... This is really the first time I've done any graphic design since 1995!! And while I'm proud of my finished design -- #1 I never do contests -- this is a rare exception -- I think contests are insulting to artists... getting all this work for artwork for free. #2 I don't do commissions. #3 I make what I want, when I want, HOW I want -- and nobody can say a fucking thing about it -- that's how I make my art... and if you like the result you buy it -- and if you don't -- you're an idiot.

I'm just suprised that the designers aren't here defending their work... because I've ripped them all up... I'll rip any art you post in here -- because 99.9% of artists suck ass because they watch too much TV and read too many comic books.

I already know the general public doesn't appreciate most of my art -- because they're INGORANT -- and that's my job -- to teach these assholes what beauty is!!! That's not an issue for me... the artists and people I respect enjoy and collect my work... I've taken my paintings out into the streets -- 99% of people don't even enjoy art unless the recognize what it is... That's why Andy Warhol and the Pop artists are so famous -- they made art for the common fool...

Digipimp 10-24-2003 02:00 PM

If calling my design old school was ripping me up then I guess you got me. But you and I both know it wasn't so it's all good.

Have one on me :glugglug

xfalmp 10-24-2003 03:05 PM

1. Hamlet
2. Madcapa

DarkJedi 10-24-2003 03:09 PM

i just found this thread.
can anyone please write a very small summary ?

avion 10-24-2003 03:26 PM

tough job :) but you could ask TheFLY. He spent lots of time here :)

oh, and dont forget to vote - it is your right :)


Avion

ONS 10-24-2003 03:27 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheFLY


With all the bullshit aside you are beinning to sound like you need to be in a mental institution. Go play with your markers and paint brushes maybe that will calm you down. :uhoh

DarkJedi 10-24-2003 03:32 PM

i just want to know - is this a Drama thread ?

avion 10-24-2003 03:38 PM

nah, no drama here...just a regular GFY thread...
it's the hot girl the made it that long...

Ross 10-24-2003 03:46 PM

Looks like Hamlet has stolen the show!

Damn he's a lucky boy :Graucho

badmunchkin 10-24-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
My design is so boring and timid -- that's why I'm bitchslapping all of you for being so stupid... :1orglaugh
And the Sore Loser of the Century Award Goes to... :winkwink:

TheFLY 10-24-2003 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
i just want to know - is this a Drama thread ?
Not yet. :1orglaugh

Markit 10-24-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Don't sing it, bring it... Let's see your designs bitch... :1orglaugh I've been doing art professionally for 12+ years now.

:eek7

TheFLY 10-24-2003 03:58 PM

GFY's resident psychologist selling viagra:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ONS
Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


With all the bullshit aside you are beinning to sound like you need to be in a mental institution. Go play with your markers and paint brushes maybe that will calm you down. :uhoh


:1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Markit


:eek7

:Buck:

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:02 PM

If I added some gay Photoshop filters like these other followers I'd have won...

Hamlet thinks the URL at the top of his graphic is a design element :1orglaugh Nice fucking try retard -- the URL is at the top of the browser window already... :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:05 PM

Hamlet should be excluded for the stolen sunflower borders and the Voltron inspired logo...:BangBang:

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:09 PM

I really don't get the Hamlet design... what does this shit mean?

Sunflower girl meets Voltron comics?

This is the mentality of you morons -- you like the Voltron style... great cartoon -- but this is an adult site.

<img src="http://webusers.xula.edu/mbullock/vpic1.gif">

<img src="http://webusers.xula.edu/mbullock/vpic3.gif">

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:14 PM

This Hamlet/Voltron idiot has no artistic integrity... The guy wins because he designed a whole damn menu... That took a lot of brains... Buy guess what -- the icons he chose have nothing to do with the text or the content of the site... :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:16 PM

I smell a proxy bot...

Maybe I should hit up my ICQ list of 500 webmasters to get my score to go up :1orglaugh

badmunchkin 10-24-2003 04:19 PM

Dude, you can defend your design all day long but the bottom line is - it is not SEXY. Doesn't make you think of sex & there's nothing sexy at all about it. Overcast colors might work for Sony but you're not selling electronics, you're selling a Playmate. Yea, maybe the "N" lines up perfectly with her tits, maybe you've got the most artistic, modern design, maybe the ship in the background represents some deep, hidden secret about her psyche :1orglaugh but the design is NOT SEXY. It's 100% UNSEXY. You're not selling art. It IS very artistic & I've seen your paintings on here & they are excellent but porn & art do not necessarily make good bedfellows. :2 cents:

kush2 10-24-2003 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Haaa... I really don't care if I win -- to be honest I'm not even sure I would design Neriah's tour even if she asked me... This is really the first time I've done any graphic design since 1995!! And while I'm proud of my finished design -- #1 I never do contests -- this is a rare exception -- I think contests are insulting to artists... getting all this work for artwork for free. #2 I don't do commissions. #3 I make what I want, when I want, HOW I want -- and nobody can say a fucking thing about it -- that's how I make my art... and if you like the result you buy it -- and if you don't -- you're an idiot.

I'm just suprised that the designers aren't here defending their work... because I've ripped them all up... I'll rip any art you post in here -- because 99.9% of artists suck ass because they watch too much TV and read too many comic books.

I already know the general public doesn't appreciate most of my art -- because they're INGORANT -- and that's my job -- to teach these assholes what beauty is!!! That's not an issue for me... the artists and people I respect enjoy and collect my work... I've taken my paintings out into the streets -- 99% of people don't even enjoy art unless the recognize what it is... That's why Andy Warhol and the Pop artists are so famous -- they made art for the common fool...

Your design sucks.

Get off your pedestal.

Surfers want something impressive, not a piece of shit design that looks like an 11 year old with a computer drew it.

Even if your design has subtle pieces of "art" as you claim, the average surfer won't notice it and he won't give a rats ass.

Join the shitty-AVS-design-club ; because that's all your design is.

Adulter 10-24-2003 04:38 PM

1. Katsuki
2. Harvey

ONS 10-24-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush2


Your design sucks.

Get off your pedestal.

Surfers want something impressive, not a piece of shit design that looks like an 11 year old with a computer drew it.

Even if your design has subtle pieces of "art" as you claim, the average surfer won't notice it and he won't give a rats ass.

Join the shitty-AVS-design-club ; because that's all your design is.

I should have given it to him all the way myself but then again you have to consider the mentality of the village idiot. Hamlet has most always been booked 3-4 months in advance by lots of repeat customers for the past 3 years.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badmunchkin
Dude, you can defend your design all day long but the bottom line is - it is not SEXY. Doesn't make you think of sex & there's nothing sexy at all about it. Overcast colors might work for Sony but you're not selling electronics, you're selling a Playmate. Yea, maybe the "N" lines up perfectly with her tits, maybe you've got the most artistic, modern design, maybe the ship in the background represents some deep, hidden secret about her psyche :1orglaugh but the design is NOT SEXY. It's 100% UNSEXY. You're not selling art. It IS very artistic & I've seen your paintings on here & they are excellent but porn & art do not necessarily make good bedfellows. :2 cents:
Finally some fucking truth... Yes, I agree that my idea of what is sexy eludes most of you nimrods... I should write a book on it to give you people some education.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush2


Your design sucks.

Get off your pedestal.

Surfers want something impressive, not a piece of shit design that looks like an 11 year old with a computer drew it.

Even if your design has subtle pieces of "art" as you claim, the average surfer won't notice it and he won't give a rats ass.

Join the shitty-AVS-design-club ; because that's all your design is.

Another idiot trying to appeal to the "average surfer".

TheFLY 10-24-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ONS


I should have given it to him all the way myself but then again you have to consider the mentality of the village idiot. Hamlet has most always been booked 3-4 months in advance by lots of repeat customers for the past 3 years.

I guess there's not much competition in the porn design biz after all.


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