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ElvisManson 10-24-2003 06:39 AM

Harvey..I love that clean look.

rooster 10-24-2003 06:40 AM

digipimps is the best because it looks good and does the best job of marketing. Marketing is what leads to signups not a bunch of pretty graphics :2 cents:

Meta Ridley 10-24-2003 06:50 AM

http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg

avion 10-24-2003 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg
:1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg
Lol that's great!!

Digipimp 10-24-2003 06:58 AM

I'm not in the poll because I wasn't going to participate but I decided to whip this up in an hour or so last night for Neriah since she's such a great girl. I normally only have ever designed for myself. So here it is, needs more work done, I only got an hour and a half in and most of that was thought. So hope you guys like and hope Neriah likes, I think it will bring people in for sure.

http://www.platinumpimpin.com/neriah.jpg

Hunter_ST 10-24-2003 07:40 AM

Hamlet's design is cool, but it should be carried through the rest of the site, too, including the member section.

If the member's section bears no resemblence to the cover, then members might get turned off, feeling they were cheated. :2 cents:

TheFLY 10-24-2003 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
http://www.wantongirls.com/rather.jpg
LOL.... yeah FUCK TV.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by extreme


Whoa, this just turned ugly =D.

Hehe yeah I'm the best living art critic on the planet.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Melisa
Hamlet's is great as long as his name is Ryan Ford:

LiquiSoft

BTW - I am new. Shall I go fuck myself? :winkwink:

LOL BUSTED!!!! UNORIGINAL DESIGN :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :ak47:

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Hehe yeah I'm the best living art critic on the planet.


In your mind dear :P Art is only a SMALL part of design.. MARKETING is more important than art :P

Digipimp 10-24-2003 07:56 AM

I'm not in the poll because I was late getting in since I decided to throw a little something together at the very last minute. But I think it's marketable for sure and would get surfers in the door!

jayeff 10-24-2003 08:03 AM

It's dangerous to make assumptions such as saying that elegant doesn't sell. Particularly in this business, when renewals would/could/should earn more than initial sales, targeting the 'right' audience is at least as important as going flat-out for maximum impact.

Another mistake in this industry is that we all tend to climb on whatever bandwagon is rolling past. So at a given moment most designers are doing broadly similar work. As a result, only content differentiates one site from another and everyone ends up competing for a (very small) part of the total audience within their niche.

(That's the reason webmasters often claim that simple is best. It works not because it is simple, but because it appeals to a type of customer that fewer are fighting over. Sad reality is that between simple and the design style of the moment are maybe 80% of the potential customers that no-one is marketing to at all.)

Unless Neriah wants a change of image and certainly if she is happy to stress her Playmate status, then elegant is good. Playboy demographics (last time I checked) have most buyers at 35+ and well off. The whole Playboy 'thing' is about fantasy women. Playboy isn't in-your-face porn like Bangbus for example. Neriah's photographs (at least the ones used in these designs, are very much in that mold and if that is what you are selling, it would be crazy to pitch away from your natural audience to an audience that is looking for something else.

That's why I thought most of the designs were well on track. I have a feeling that Hamlet's design is scoring so well because of the logo. It is a cool logo but I would question its appeal to potential customers likely 10+ years older than the average age here. The rest of his design would work really well for them, but it is sublimated because the logo is so strong.

I think it was Fly described Madcapa's design as 'too rectangular', but IMO it strikes a good balance between creating the fantasy of a Playmate while using the thumbs to highlight Neriah's 'assets'.

In Neriah's place I would ask Harvey to redo the logo and Madcapa to rework his text to make the entry more obvious. If both agreed, I wouldn't make a decision until I had seen the results.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:04 AM

Hamlet you fucking suck -- stealing designs from other websites and then slapping your own shitty logo onto it? :1orglaugh

Wow I'm Hamlet and I discovered how to steal designs from other sites and then add photoshop filters :1orglaugh Let me know when you graduate off stolen designs and comic book panels :1orglaugh

PS: Nice fucking horns in your logo... Stick to comic books :1orglaugh <img src="http://www.bernardminet.com/mangas/image_samourais.jpg">

voodooman 10-24-2003 08:05 AM

MADCAPA: Too many rectangles -- boring layout. What does "NS" stand for? All I can think of is the NAS rapper logo. <img src="http://www.mcm.net/cm/image/artistes/pochettecd/nas_stillmatic.jpg"> Wow you discovered layers in photoshop too... :1orglaugh



NS???

Dude, thats a D for Davis.
Damn, In not even a designer and I could see that.


:winkwink:

Martin 10-24-2003 08:06 AM

I'll tell you this. You make them all look good to me.

IntenseCash 10-24-2003 08:09 AM

Hamlet! thats an awesome design. :thumbsup

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Playboy demographics (last time I checked) have most buyers at 35+ and well off. The whole Playboy 'thing' is about fantasy women. Playboy isn't in-your-face porn like Bangbus for example. Neriah's photographs (at least the ones used in these designs, are very much in that mold and if that is what you are selling, it would be crazy to pitch away from your natural audience to an audience that is looking for something else.
After reading what you just said, why would you suggest these immature, childish designs? :1orglaugh

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:11 AM

In light of the circumstances I say we start a new poll since we have a stolen design and mine needs to be included now!

:thumbsup

GoNe 10-24-2003 08:13 AM

Havent read any of the posts here except the first 2 :Graucho
So dont know if the contest is over or not but my vote
goes to Hamlet :thumbsup
http://www.neriah.com/customer_extra...est/hamlet.jpg

Peace

Also Neriah when you gonna hit me up? :Graucho

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by voodooman
MADCAPA: Too many rectangles -- boring layout. What does "NS" stand for? All I can think of is the NAS rapper logo. <img src="http://www.mcm.net/cm/image/artistes/pochettecd/nas_stillmatic.jpg"> Wow you discovered layers in photoshop too... :1orglaugh



NS???

Dude, thats a D for Davis.
Damn, In not even a designer and I could see that.


:winkwink:

Are you on crack? Look again -- unless this is a LOWERCASE "D" it looks more like an "S"... I'm telling you NAS posters were ALL over the place last I visited NYC and this grafitti/thug-style text is nearly identical to it :1orglaugh

Why would this model want graphics that match a popular rapper's trademark logo? HAAAAAAAAAAA

avion 10-24-2003 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff

The whole Playboy 'thing' is about fantasy women. Playboy isn't in-your-face porn like Bangbus for example. Neriah's photographs (at least the ones used in these designs, are very much in that mold and if that is what you are selling, it would be crazy to pitch away from your natural audience to an audience that is looking for something else.


second that - it is all about fantasy and sexy...

but hey man you didnt comment our design :( what do we need to improve/change?

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by GoNe
Havent read any of the posts here except the first 2 :Graucho
So dont know if the contest is over or not but my vote
goes to Hamlet :thumbsup

Peace

Also Neriah when you gonna hit me up? :Graucho

You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


creative and elegant is boring.

Get some pics taken with a big fat cock somewhere in the vicinity of your mouth, and slap that on the front page...

that'll get people in the mood to spend some cash on ya.

especially when you consider that I found all the 'elegant' pics you're probably gonna have in the members area less than 2 seconds... for free.

Apparently you have NO clue about the babe niche whatsoever.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

I think you're the one busy picking everything apart.. And actually I can see how that design has elementsof the other, but it's a far cry from being "stolen", unless I missed something.

avion 10-24-2003 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
In light of the circumstances I say we start a new poll since we have a stolen design and mine needs to be included now!

:thumbsup

:) Neriah should really post this poll to her current site members...Let them decide...

Avion

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
In light of the circumstances I say we start a new poll since we have a stolen design and mine needs to be included now!

:thumbsup

:1orglaugh Yeah hilarious... that guy's artistic integrity is down the toilet.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


You just chose the design with the stolen graphics, Image comics panel layout + anime cartoon horns... Nice one :thumbsup

Did you finish highschool yet?

Pick mine apart flizzy, I know mine sucks and I just slapped it together in a rush last night in just over and hour.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


I think you're the one busy picking everything apart.. And actually I can see how that design has elementsof the other, but it's a far cry from being "stolen", unless I missed something.

It's the same design... without the stolen sunflowers borders, what is left? His cool Voltron inspired logo? :1orglaugh That kid should go back to watching catroons...

<img src="http://www.ghg.net/wduncan/voltron/voltitle.jpg">

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


Pick mine apart flizzy, I know mine sucks and I just slapped it together in a rush last night in just over and hour.

Study Hans Hoffman's teachings -- he's the godfather of modern art...

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief



In your mind dear :P Art is only a SMALL part of design.. MARKETING is more important than art :P

Tell that to the guy that shoots Neriah's pics. Ask HIM what design he likes the best -- I already know the answer. The guy has skill, training and taste... Let's see your tour Lady Mischief? :1orglaugh

ideasign 10-24-2003 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Neriah must be allergic to apples or something cuz this is a beautiful design.

http://www.ideasign.ru/neriah.jpg


I think she hates apples, and i think not many people want to work with russians, it is true, because, we are ugly and bad and we all are gangsters! :) hehe

Of course in young years Neriah hear all this stupid shit :)

Danil,
www.ideasign.ru

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief



In your mind dear :P Art is only a SMALL part of design.. MARKETING is more important than art :P

And don't ever call me "dear" again when suggesting that you know more about art than I do.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by ideasign



I think she hates apples, and i think not many people want to work with russians, it is true, because, we are ugly and bad and we all are gangsters! :) hehe

Of course in young years Neriah hear all this stupid shit :)

Danil,
www.ideasign.ru

This was a great idea because of the sensory appeal, but the image looks contrived -- if she really wanted to pose on fruit for her own site, on the front page -- she would have done a pose especially for that purpose so she didn't look like she was falling off the cherry...

natas 10-24-2003 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
http://64.81.51.213/fpm/images/57/92...5404930210.jpg
damn! that's funny :1orglaugh

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Why do you have to pick everyone's apart just because you didn't get picked, you brat :P Just be happy for whoever wins :P

Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Study Hans Hoffman's teachings -- he's the godfather of modern art...

Not sure that's what I asked you at all?

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

Yes, but this isn't art.. This is MARKETING. NOBODY is going to sell a site with art. They WILL sell a site with good layouts, appealing text, etc etc.. It's just like a newspaper ad, not a painting hanging in a museum, my dear.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


It's the same design... without the stolen sunflowers borders, what is left? His cool Voltron inspired logo? :1orglaugh That kid should go back to watching catroons...

<img src="http://www.ghg.net/wduncan/voltron/voltitle.jpg">

I think it's hilarious you can turn Hamlet's logo upsidedown and it looks just like the Voltron sword! :1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


And don't ever call me "dear" again when suggesting that you know more about art than I do.

I NEVER suggested I know more about art. I *DO* however know more about marketing, and art is only a small part of that :P

HarlotCash Dyker 10-24-2003 08:48 AM

Katsuki gets my vote - Just - They are all good designs.

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yes, but this isn't art.. This is MARKETING. NOBODY is going to sell a site with art. They WILL sell a site with good layouts, appealing text, etc etc.. It's just like a newspaper ad, not a painting hanging in a museum, my dear.

Hello? What are these guys paying for?

The photography!!! This is not Bangbus or a hardcore site.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Tell that to the guy that shoots Neriah's pics. Ask HIM what design he likes the best -- I already know the answer. The guy has skill, training and taste... Let's see your tour Lady Mischief? :1orglaugh

Lol my tour for what? My specialty is design, TO SELL THINGS. Not design just for something pretty to look at.. I've been EXTREMELY successful at SALES, and THAT is what we're here for isn't it? Not an art review.. For your information I built most of Neriah's hosted galleries, and they do quite well.

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Hello? What are these guys paying for?

The photography!!! This is not Bangbus or a hardcore site.

Yes, but photography needs to be marketed too.. trust me, I'm a photographer, internationally published in the mainstream world. I had to market my stuff to get that far, you know. :P

Sharky 10-24-2003 08:54 AM

It's a tie between MADCAPA & Hamlet!

If either of these guys need a design job, Hit me up.. you did great work

ideasign 10-24-2003 08:54 AM

http://www.ideasign.ru/neriah.gif

TheFLY 10-24-2003 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


I NEVER suggested I know more about art. I *DO* however know more about marketing, and art is only a small part of that :P

I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

Digipimp 10-24-2003 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

So a design like mine basically then. Since I had to rush and do it in just over an hour, a little more work on it and it would be all good!

slackologist 10-24-2003 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY


Artists need to be told when they suck -- there's enough bad art out there already -- we don't need more.

I agree, and you suck! i'm sure i saw something like your design back in the 80's except it was much higher quality. But that's OK.. It's hard not being the best or the most popular, i'm sure you'll get used to it, there there.

:1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-24-2003 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


I've been in this niche since '98 -- the vast majority of glamour pics are artistic... most of the guys surfing these softcore glamour sites are looking at pics scanned from fashion/photography/art magazines. If you know Neriah's referrers like I do -- you would know that -- I've been trading with those guys for a long time. What sells the site is the photography/art and the model.

Ok. Well I guess sites like Blue Fantasies must really suck and not make ANY sales then, eh? :P


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