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Mellow Mushroom · 10-22-2003, 06:08 PM

This Guy never paid me, i worked a long time for him, where can i get some help?

Mack Diesel
CyberNet Digital
www.CyberNetDigital.com
www.CyberNetGirls.com
817-460-9079
[email protected]
ICQ: 115311355

He owes me around 500 bucks
I did three flas designs for him and a database, he never paid me.
Any suggestions?

Cassie · 10-22-2003, 06:15 PM

sorry to state the obvious cause 500 means a lot to some but when are designers going to get it.... show your end product as an image so that no one can take your designs before final payment (this goes for banners as well)! we have been working with the same designer for the 2 years and to this day he still shows his final work as an image for us to look at (and we pay him everytime, on time and even add extra at times).

i mean i dont see what the big deal about paying is; if you cant pay then you should never ask for the work to be done. never EVER give the final product until final payment (by the same token, dont fuck over your customer either once they have paid).

Mellow Mushroom · 10-22-2003, 07:11 PM

Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

SpaceAce · 10-22-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom
Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

You can complain here and maybe other people will see your story and not do busines with him but unless he is a GFY regular with a reputation to protect, posting here probably won't get you paid.

SpceAce

SENSEX · 10-22-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom
Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

http://www.bbb.org/

Ic3m4nZ · 10-22-2003, 07:13 PM

Put a couple of thousands and hire a hitman on him

EZRhino · 10-22-2003, 07:17 PM

Sucks dude, take Spaceace advise, sounds like your best bet

Mellow Mushroom · 10-22-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
Sucks dude, take Spaceace advise, sounds like your best bet

ok, any body knows a hitman, i want this guy sleeping with the fishes

MuleScrote · 10-22-2003, 07:38 PM

A few years ago I made some FPA's for someone I worked very close with on the net. Still waiting to get paid.

Sorry about your luck.

Good advise Cassie

HEARTBREAKER · 10-22-2003, 10:00 PM

do you have any icq or contact numbers of him????

ZoiNk · 10-22-2003, 10:03 PM

Best way to deal with him... send all his info to Acacia since he has digital video on demand.

ZoiNk

jwerd · 10-22-2003, 10:13 PM

Hmm...

See, when I do jobs whether it be in php or flash, I make sure to always keep the source and the project on my server until I receieve payment -- now once I receieve payment, I send the source and the project to their server... Never been ripped off... That is the best way to go things, I suppose...

BrianOblivion · 10-22-2003, 10:45 PM

Yo Mellow holla at me via e-mail. I don't know the guy personally but I know people who know him and I got some interesting 411 for ya.
oblivion_brian at hotmail dot com

FUCK ACACIA

grogan · 10-22-2003, 11:18 PM

Put your money in a blender.

Chris · 10-22-2003, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grogan
Put your money in a blender.

grogan you should foot the bill sence your so rich

you still owe me 19.98

darnit · 10-23-2003, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lamerhooD
Hmm...

See, when I do jobs whether it be in php or flash, I make sure to always keep the source and the project on my server until I receieve payment -- now once I receieve payment, I send the source and the project to their server... Never been ripped off... That is the best way to go things, I suppose...

as an x freelancer back in the old days here is what i learned:

Tip 1: when i was freelance all creatives were .jpgs not html with a big ass "SAMPLE" on the cover.

Tip 2: Set approval standards from the start...for example price includes 3 revisions afterwhich each additional is x dollars. They saw your portfolio this is NOT another test.

Tip3: Scope creep is a bitch.....clearly state what you will do for the money down to the dollar. Every thing extra is billable.
(see above)

Tip3: Get half payment UP FRONT with half due BEFORE release of final product.

Tip4: Work hard, provide a good product for a fair price and word of mouth will be your best friend.

Sorry you lost the cash but we all got fucked in the start :/ Hope it helps....

Ozzymosis1 · 10-23-2003, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom

ok, any body knows a hitman, i want this guy sleeping with the fishes

Im sure there is someone here at gfy that will help you with that.

myjah · 10-23-2003, 06:54 AM

i think this may have been your $500 lesson...learn from it

avion · 10-23-2003, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darnit

as an x freelancer back in the old days here is what i learned:

Tip 1: when i was freelance all creatives were .jpgs not html with a big ass "SAMPLE" on the cover.

Tip 2: Set approval standards from the start...for example price includes 3 revisions afterwhich each additional is x dollars. They saw your portfolio this is NOT another test.

Tip3: Scope creep is a bitch.....clearly state what you will do for the money down to the dollar. Every thing extra is billable.
(see above)

Tip3: Get half payment UP FRONT with half due BEFORE release of final product.

Tip4: Work hard, provide a good product for a fair price and word of mouth will be your best friend.

Sorry you lost the cash but we all got fucked in the start :/ Hope it helps....

nice tips

got to write'em ...

Avion

brand0n · 10-23-2003, 07:22 AM

you arent going to get paid, move on

Milena Dickman · 10-23-2003, 07:25 AM

There are some really nice tips on this thread, and you can use them to prevent being owned the next time.

But, really, there isn´t much you can do to get that money, mainly because it´s little money that would never justify a law suit. The only thing you can do is put this person reputation into the gutter - if you are looking for some revange... But really, get over it an take care: there will always be some dishonest fucker trying to own you.

Just my

Trent Edison · 10-23-2003, 07:33 AM

BTW, how much good hitman costs today?

ControlThy · 10-23-2003, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
BTW, how much good hitman costs today?

30 - 40 K

theS2O · 10-23-2003, 07:54 AM

better yet, try to set a term like 100% downpayment before you start working on a project next time. works for me.

BrianOblivion · 10-23-2003, 08:35 AM

You know something Mellow at first I was a bit skeptical about your post but now I'm pretty much sure I smell a rat. How long did you say that you worked for Diesel & Co.? One would think if you really did so much for them you would at least have a working phone number for them. What's really strange is I wonder what kind of person goes on a board and makes a public post stating they want to hire a hitman to get a guy whose actually been investigated for murder on more than one occasion? You may wanna dig thru the archives of the Houston Press or Chronicle on this one. Considering I know for a fact that this outfit owns a handul of the topless and nude bars here in H-Town your story that he robbed you of $500 at first got my attention but on second thought doesn't even make any sense. I hope you know what you're doing and don't end up like that guy they found shot in the back of the head down in Galveston awhile back.

Since I'm posting I might as well whore a bit. If anyone here needs a writer or an editor holla at me.

I'm in the Videodrome
Does that mean I have to pay Acacia licensing fees?

FUCK ACACIA

Mellow Mushroom · 10-27-2003, 06:18 AM

You will pay Mack, sooner or later you will pay.

--- José

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianOblivion
You know something Mellow at first I was a bit skeptical about your post but now I'm pretty much sure I smell a rat. How long did you say that you worked for Diesel & Co.? One would think if you really did so much for them you would at least have a working phone number for them. What's really strange is I wonder what kind of person goes on a board and makes a public post stating they want to hire a hitman to get a guy whose actually been investigated for murder on more than one occasion? You may wanna dig thru the archives of the Houston Press or Chronicle on this one. Considering I know for a fact that this outfit owns a handul of the topless and nude bars here in H-Town your story that he robbed you of $500 at first got my attention but on second thought doesn't even make any sense. I hope you know what you're doing and don't end up like that guy they found shot in the back of the head down in Galveston awhile back.

Since I'm posting I might as well whore a bit. If anyone here needs a writer or an editor holla at me.

I'm in the Videodrome
Does that mean I have to pay Acacia licensing fees?

FUCK ACACIA

BrianOblivion · 10-27-2003, 09:32 AM

WTF? Not sure why you quoted me but I got your e-mail and responded to it. Now it's time for you to pass me some of that shit you've been smokin'

Someone please pass me the mushroom tea.

NEWSFLASH! I have just patented "internet extortion of adult webmasters" now Acacia will have to pay me a royalty for every webmaster the screw!
FUCK ACACIA

The Gallery Girl · 10-27-2003, 09:40 AM

My sugestion: next time make him sign a contract.

10-22-2003, 06:08 PM	#1
Mellow Mushroom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	i need help this guy robbed me! This Guy never paid me, i worked a long time for him, where can i get some help? Mack Diesel CyberNet Digital www.CyberNetDigital.com www.CyberNetGirls.com 817-460-9079 [email protected] ICQ: 115311355 He owes me around 500 bucks I did three flas designs for him and a database, he never paid me. Any suggestions?

10-22-2003, 06:15 PM	#2
Cassie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,139	sorry to state the obvious cause 500 means a lot to some but when are designers going to get it.... show your end product as an image so that no one can take your designs before final payment (this goes for banners as well)! we have been working with the same designer for the 2 years and to this day he still shows his final work as an image for us to look at (and we pay him everytime, on time and even add extra at times). i mean i dont see what the big deal about paying is; if you cant pay then you should never ask for the work to be done. never EVER give the final product until final payment (by the same token, dont fuck over your customer either once they have paid). __________________ ICQ: 309756847 ]

10-22-2003, 07:38 PM	#9
MuleScrote Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,601	A few years ago I made some FPA's for someone I worked very close with on the net. Still waiting to get paid. Sorry about your luck. Good advise Cassie __________________ ICQ 78681003

10-22-2003, 10:00 PM	#10
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10-22-2003, 07:11 PM	#3
Mellow Mushroom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	Is there any place where i can go and complain? --- no body really knows what to do

10-22-2003, 07:13 PM	#6
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	Put a couple of thousands and hire a hitman on him

10-22-2003, 07:17 PM	#7
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	Sucks dude, take Spaceace advise, sounds like your best bet

10-22-2003, 10:13 PM	#12
jwerd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 1,953	Hmm... See, when I do jobs whether it be in php or flash, I make sure to always keep the source and the project on my server until I receieve payment -- now once I receieve payment, I send the source and the project to their server... Never been ripped off... That is the best way to go things, I suppose... __________________ Yii Framework Guru - Seasoned PHP vet - Partner @ XXXCoupon.com

10-22-2003, 10:45 PM	#13
BrianOblivion Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: H-Town Posts: 8	Yo Mellow holla at me via e-mail. I don't know the guy personally but I know people who know him and I got some interesting 411 for ya. oblivion_brian at hotmail dot com FUCK ACACIA

10-22-2003, 11:18 PM	#14
grogan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,284	Put your money in a blender.

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10-23-2003, 07:25 AM	#21
Milena Dickman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 501	There are some really nice tips on this thread, and you can use them to prevent being owned the next time. But, really, there isn´t much you can do to get that money, mainly because it´s little money that would never justify a law suit. The only thing you can do is put this person reputation into the gutter - if you are looking for some revange... But really, get over it an take care: there will always be some dishonest fucker trying to own you. Just my __________________ work hard. play hard. http://www.dickmansdesign.com MSN milenadickman at hotmail.com iCQ # 276820774

10-23-2003, 07:33 AM	#22
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10-23-2003, 07:54 AM	#24
theS2O Adult Design Since 2003 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: s2odesigns.com Posts: 4,784	better yet, try to set a term like 100% downpayment before you start working on a project next time. works for me. __________________ EMAIL ME at [email protected] for Design Inquiries! \| SKYPE: s2odesigns \| ICQ: 280646555 Adult/Mainstream Website Designs \| Illustrations, Toons & Corporate Logos S2O Designs - Making Awesome Logos & Websites Since 2003!

10-23-2003, 08:35 AM	#25
BrianOblivion Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: H-Town Posts: 8	You know something Mellow at first I was a bit skeptical about your post but now I'm pretty much sure I smell a rat. How long did you say that you worked for Diesel & Co.? One would think if you really did so much for them you would at least have a working phone number for them. What's really strange is I wonder what kind of person goes on a board and makes a public post stating they want to hire a hitman to get a guy whose actually been investigated for murder on more than one occasion? You may wanna dig thru the archives of the Houston Press or Chronicle on this one. Considering I know for a fact that this outfit owns a handul of the topless and nude bars here in H-Town your story that he robbed you of $500 at first got my attention but on second thought doesn't even make any sense. I hope you know what you're doing and don't end up like that guy they found shot in the back of the head down in Galveston awhile back. Since I'm posting I might as well whore a bit. If anyone here needs a writer or an editor holla at me. I'm in the Videodrome Does that mean I have to pay Acacia licensing fees? FUCK ACACIA

10-27-2003, 09:32 AM	#27
BrianOblivion Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: H-Town Posts: 8	WTF? Not sure why you quoted me but I got your e-mail and responded to it. Now it's time for you to pass me some of that shit you've been smokin' Someone please pass me the mushroom tea. NEWSFLASH! I have just patented "internet extortion of adult webmasters" now Acacia will have to pay me a royalty for every webmaster the screw! FUCK ACACIA

10-27-2003, 09:40 AM	#28
The Gallery Girl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 73	My sugestion: next time make him sign a contract. __________________ ICQ 41728908