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Mellow Mushroom 10-22-2003 06:08 PM

i need help this guy robbed me!
 
This Guy never paid me, i worked a long time for him, where can i get some help?

Mack Diesel
CyberNet Digital
www.CyberNetDigital.com
www.CyberNetGirls.com
817-460-9079
[email protected]
ICQ: 115311355

He owes me around 500 bucks
I did three flas designs for him and a database, he never paid me.
Any suggestions?

Cassie 10-22-2003 06:15 PM

sorry to state the obvious cause 500 means a lot to some but when are designers going to get it.... show your end product as an image so that no one can take your designs before final payment (this goes for banners as well)! we have been working with the same designer for the 2 years and to this day he still shows his final work as an image for us to look at (and we pay him everytime, on time and even add extra at times).

i mean i dont see what the big deal about paying is; if you cant pay then you should never ask for the work to be done. never EVER give the final product until final payment (by the same token, dont fuck over your customer either once they have paid).

Mellow Mushroom 10-22-2003 07:11 PM

Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

SpaceAce 10-22-2003 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom
Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

You can complain here and maybe other people will see your story and not do busines with him but unless he is a GFY regular with a reputation to protect, posting here probably won't get you paid.

SpceAce

SENSEX 10-22-2003 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom
Is there any place where i can go and complain?
--- no body really knows what to do

http://www.bbb.org/

Ic3m4nZ 10-22-2003 07:13 PM

Put a couple of thousands and hire a hitman on him

EZRhino 10-22-2003 07:17 PM

Sucks dude, take Spaceace advise, sounds like your best bet

Mellow Mushroom 10-22-2003 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
Sucks dude, take Spaceace advise, sounds like your best bet
ok, any body knows a hitman, i want this guy sleeping with the fishes :BangBang: :ak47:

MuleScrote 10-22-2003 07:38 PM

A few years ago I made some FPA's for someone I worked very close with on the net. Still waiting to get paid.

Sorry about your luck.

Good advise Cassie :thumbsup

HEARTBREAKER 10-22-2003 10:00 PM

do you have any icq or contact numbers of him????

ZoiNk 10-22-2003 10:03 PM

Best way to deal with him... send all his info to Acacia since he has digital video on demand. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
ZoiNk

jwerd 10-22-2003 10:13 PM

Hmm...

See, when I do jobs whether it be in php or flash, I make sure to always keep the source and the project on my server until I receieve payment -- now once I receieve payment, I send the source and the project to their server... Never been ripped off... That is the best way to go things, I suppose...

BrianOblivion 10-22-2003 10:45 PM

Yo Mellow holla at me via e-mail. I don't know the guy personally but I know people who know him and I got some interesting 411 for ya.
oblivion_brian at hotmail dot com


:thefinger
FUCK ACACIA

grogan 10-22-2003 11:18 PM

Put your money in a blender.

Chris 10-22-2003 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grogan
Put your money in a blender.

grogan you should foot the bill sence your so rich


you still owe me 19.98

darnit 10-23-2003 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lamerhooD
Hmm...

See, when I do jobs whether it be in php or flash, I make sure to always keep the source and the project on my server until I receieve payment -- now once I receieve payment, I send the source and the project to their server... Never been ripped off... That is the best way to go things, I suppose...

as an x freelancer back in the old days here is what i learned:

Tip 1: when i was freelance all creatives were .jpgs not html with a big ass "SAMPLE" on the cover.

Tip 2: Set approval standards from the start...for example price includes 3 revisions afterwhich each additional is x dollars. They saw your portfolio this is NOT another test.

Tip3: Scope creep is a bitch.....clearly state what you will do for the money down to the dollar. Every thing extra is billable.
(see above)

Tip3: Get half payment UP FRONT with half due BEFORE release of final product.


Tip4: Work hard, provide a good product for a fair price and word of mouth will be your best friend.

Sorry you lost the cash but we all got fucked in the start :/ Hope it helps....

Ozzymosis1 10-23-2003 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mellow Mushroom


ok, any body knows a hitman, i want this guy sleeping with the fishes :BangBang: :ak47:

Im sure there is someone here at gfy that will help you with that.

myjah 10-23-2003 06:54 AM

i think this may have been your $500 lesson...learn from it

avion 10-23-2003 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darnit


as an x freelancer back in the old days here is what i learned:

Tip 1: when i was freelance all creatives were .jpgs not html with a big ass "SAMPLE" on the cover.

Tip 2: Set approval standards from the start...for example price includes 3 revisions afterwhich each additional is x dollars. They saw your portfolio this is NOT another test.

Tip3: Scope creep is a bitch.....clearly state what you will do for the money down to the dollar. Every thing extra is billable.
(see above)

Tip3: Get half payment UP FRONT with half due BEFORE release of final product.


Tip4: Work hard, provide a good product for a fair price and word of mouth will be your best friend.

Sorry you lost the cash but we all got fucked in the start :/ Hope it helps....


nice tips :) got to write'em ...

Avion

brand0n 10-23-2003 07:22 AM

you arent going to get paid, move on

Milena Dickman 10-23-2003 07:25 AM

There are some really nice tips on this thread, and you can use them to prevent being owned the next time.

But, really, there isnīt much you can do to get that money, mainly because itīs little money that would never justify a law suit. The only thing you can do is put this person reputation into the gutter - if you are looking for some revange... But really, get over it an take care: there will always be some dishonest fucker trying to own you.

Just my :2 cents:

Trent Edison 10-23-2003 07:33 AM

BTW, how much good hitman costs today?

ControlThy 10-23-2003 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
BTW, how much good hitman costs today?
30 - 40 K

theS2O 10-23-2003 07:54 AM

better yet, try to set a term like 100% downpayment before you start working on a project next time. works for me. :)

BrianOblivion 10-23-2003 08:35 AM

You know something Mellow at first I was a bit skeptical about your post but now I'm pretty much sure I smell a rat. How long did you say that you worked for Diesel & Co.? One would think if you really did so much for them you would at least have a working phone number for them. What's really strange is I wonder what kind of person goes on a board and makes a public post stating they want to hire a hitman to get a guy whose actually been investigated for murder on more than one occasion? You may wanna dig thru the archives of the Houston Press or Chronicle on this one. Considering I know for a fact that this outfit owns a handul of the topless and nude bars here in H-Town your story that he robbed you of $500 at first got my attention but on second thought doesn't even make any sense. I hope you know what you're doing and don't end up like that guy they found shot in the back of the head down in Galveston awhile back.


Since I'm posting I might as well whore a bit. If anyone here needs a writer or an editor holla at me.





I'm in the Videodrome
Does that mean I have to pay Acacia licensing fees?
:321GFY
FUCK ACACIA

Mellow Mushroom 10-27-2003 06:18 AM

You will pay Mack, sooner or later you will pay.

--- José




Quote:

Originally posted by BrianOblivion
You know something Mellow at first I was a bit skeptical about your post but now I'm pretty much sure I smell a rat. How long did you say that you worked for Diesel & Co.? One would think if you really did so much for them you would at least have a working phone number for them. What's really strange is I wonder what kind of person goes on a board and makes a public post stating they want to hire a hitman to get a guy whose actually been investigated for murder on more than one occasion? You may wanna dig thru the archives of the Houston Press or Chronicle on this one. Considering I know for a fact that this outfit owns a handul of the topless and nude bars here in H-Town your story that he robbed you of $500 at first got my attention but on second thought doesn't even make any sense. I hope you know what you're doing and don't end up like that guy they found shot in the back of the head down in Galveston awhile back.


Since I'm posting I might as well whore a bit. If anyone here needs a writer or an editor holla at me.





I'm in the Videodrome
Does that mean I have to pay Acacia licensing fees?
:321GFY
FUCK ACACIA

:321GFY

BrianOblivion 10-27-2003 09:32 AM

WTF? Not sure why you quoted me but I got your e-mail and responded to it. Now it's time for you to pass me some of that shit you've been smokin' :stoned :stoned

Someone please pass me the mushroom tea.


NEWSFLASH! I have just patented "internet extortion of adult webmasters" now Acacia will have to pay me a royalty for every webmaster the screw!
FUCK ACACIA
:321GFY

The Gallery Girl 10-27-2003 09:40 AM

My sugestion: next time make him sign a contract.
:Note


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